Rumble in the Southwest witpqs-A vs Andav-J 2011-11-29 to 2017-02-08

[witpqs]

Sample Tank Bn.

[witpqs]

Sample TD Bn.

[witpqs]

Sample Armoured Rgt.

[witpqs]

The two armoured Rgts recuperating at Vinh will be at Hanoi to finish recovering there. The Provisional armored unit that is almost to Surat Thani I will put on the rail and re-task to China operations. SEAC has plenty of armour without them.

[witpqs]

A rough idea of some of the primary lift available for Okinawa. A few ships are as far away as Pearl Harbor or a bit beyond, so a little stretching.

APA Troop: 99,050
LSD Troop: 5,500
LSV Troop: 3,600
LCI Troop: 16,530
Total Troop Lift: 124,680

APA Cargo: 148,802
LSD Cargo: 16,137
LSV Cargo: 3,600
LCI Cargo: 6,525
Total Cargo Lift: 175,064

Obviously that is without going outside these types. There is more than another 100,000 cargo capacity available in LST. Of course, this doesn't account for item sizes, individual units, amphibious capacity (80%), cross loading penalties, and so on.

If we have to make a partial landing on Okinawa, then both landing sites must land enough in the first wave to defend themselves. That would probably mean all of the Nago force and part of the Naha force. Second wave could be the remainder of the Naha force, and maybe the whole of the Daito Shoto invasion embarked concurrently. I still have a bunch of spreadhseet work to do! [:D]

[witpqs]

Oops - didn't even count the AKA in the area!

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

A rough idea of some of the primary lift available for Okinawa. A few ships are as far away as Pearl Harbor or a bit beyond, so a little stretching.

APA Troop: 99,050
LSD Troop: 5,500
LSV Troop: 3,600
LCI Troop: 16,530
Total Troop Lift: 124,680

APA Cargo: 148,802
LSD Cargo: 16,137
LSV Cargo: 3,600
LCI Cargo: 6,525
Total Cargo Lift: 175,064

Obviously that is without going outside these types. There is more than another 100,000 cargo capacity available in LST. Of course, this doesn't account for item sizes, individual units, amphibious capacity (80%), cross loading penalties, and so on.

If we have to make a partial landing on Okinawa, then both landing sites must land enough in the first wave to defend themselves. That would probably mean all of the Nago force and part of the Naha force. Second wave could be the remainder of the Naha force, and maybe the whole of the Daito Shoto invasion embarked concurrently. I still have a bunch of spreadhseet work to do! [:D]

You are so damn organized you make me sick ,,,, ......



that I am so damn disorganized!

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: witpqs

A rough idea of some of the primary lift available for Okinawa. A few ships are as far away as Pearl Harbor or a bit beyond, so a little stretching.

APA Troop: 99,050
LSD Troop: 5,500
LSV Troop: 3,600
LCI Troop: 16,530
Total Troop Lift: 124,680

APA Cargo: 148,802
LSD Cargo: 16,137
LSV Cargo: 3,600
LCI Cargo: 6,525
Total Cargo Lift: 175,064

Obviously that is without going outside these types. There is more than another 100,000 cargo capacity available in LST. Of course, this doesn't account for item sizes, individual units, amphibious capacity (80%), cross loading penalties, and so on.

If we have to make a partial landing on Okinawa, then both landing sites must land enough in the first wave to defend themselves. That would probably mean all of the Nago force and part of the Naha force. Second wave could be the remainder of the Naha force, and maybe the whole of the Daito Shoto invasion embarked concurrently. I still have a bunch of spreadhseet work to do! [:D]

You are so damn organized you make me sick ,,,, ......



that I am so damn disorganized!

Nah, they're not all where they should be if I was really on the ball.

[witpqs]

1944 September 19

The Empire captured:


The Allies captured:


There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:


There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:


Imperial Naval Bombardments
Japanese Ships Bombarding Haiphong

Allied Naval Bombardments:



Our subs contacted DD Hamanami on its way back to Hong Kong.

Quiet in China.

More Progress at Surat Thani. Those divisions trapped near Chiang Mai are going to take a long time to wipe out.

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Ground combat at 60,51 (near Chiang Mai)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 22118 troops, 395 guns, 242 vehicles, Assault Value = 496

Defending force 11197 troops, 48 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 296

Allied adjusted assault: 318

Japanese adjusted defense: 25

Allied assault odds: 12 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
655 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 69 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
249 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Assaulting units:
23rd Indian Division
17th Indian Division

Defending units:
29th Division


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Ground combat at 59,53 (near Chiang Mai)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13404 troops, 146 guns, 73 vehicles, Assault Value = 403

Defending force 9957 troops, 17 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 260

Allied adjusted assault: 229

Japanese adjusted defense: 13

Allied assault odds: 17 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
550 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 45 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
325 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 36 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Assaulting units:
1st Burma Brigade
2nd Burma Brigade
22nd (East African) Brigade
2/15 Punjab Battalion
2/17 Dogra Battalion
14th LRP Brigade

Defending units:
53rd Division


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Ground combat at Surat Thani (51,68)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 14747 troops, 300 guns, 323 vehicles, Assault Value = 988

Defending force 12978 troops, 124 guns, 63 vehicles, Assault Value = 181

Allied adjusted assault: 160

Japanese adjusted defense: 301

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
574 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 41 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 13 (4 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
155 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Assaulting units:
20th Indian Division
26th Indian Division
5th Indian Division
3rd (Special Force) Division

Defending units:
11th/A Division
2nd INA Gandhi Regiment
11th/C Division
29th Army
32nd Field AA Battalion
112th Infantry Regiment


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The attacks near Chiang Mai will continue but supplies are an issue in the jungle up there so attacks might not be continuous. The divisions at Surat Thani will switch off again. Two armoured units should arrive tomorrow to help the day following. Illustrious continues to make only trivial repairs on the slow journey to Colombo, but I think the movie projector is working again.

Action NE of Hanoi and at Haiphong!

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Night Naval bombardment of Haiphong at 68,57

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 12 damaged
P-39N2 Airacobra: 2 damaged
Thunderbolt I: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Hamanami

Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 16
Port hits 6

DD Hamanami firing at Haiphong


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Ground combat at 62,66 (near Pakse)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3033 troops, 46 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 93

Defending force 1911 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 21

Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
11th Airborne/C Division

Defending units:
2nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
33rd Division


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Ground combat at 68,55 (near Hanoi)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 62824 troops, 931 guns, 1115 vehicles, Assault Value = 2110

Defending force 9221 troops, 72 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 280

Allied adjusted assault: 2072

Japanese adjusted defense: 75

Allied assault odds: 27 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
7592 casualties reported
Squads: 205 destroyed, 70 disabled
Non Combat: 70 destroyed, 105 disabled
Engineers: 12 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 31 (23 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Units retreated 3

Allied ground losses:
748 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 114 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 17 (2 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Vehicles lost 20 (1 destroyed, 19 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
96th Infantry Division
2/6th Armoured Regiment
1st Australian Division
192nd Tank Battalion
2/4th Armoured Regiment
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
640th Tank Destroyer Battalion
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
5th Australian Division
31st Infantry Division
9th Australian Division

Defending units:
1st Ind.Infantry Brigade
2nd Ind.Mixed Regiment
31st Mountain Gun Regiment


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There was no aerial interdiction of our troops, yet four of our armored units did not make the crossing. All units that did cross are pretty beat up in fatigue and disruption and will recover in place. The remaining armor will be on site tomorrow and lots of large artillery pieces will cross the river over the days following. The Imperial stack E of Hanoi still shows a NW movement marker but that might be a feint now that our strength there has been shown. Two units of >11,000 troops are on the rail line to Lao Cai NW of the crossing hex and are now heading into Lao Cai, so that base will be defended after all. Those might be units that were defeated at the crossing point but I don't know. Whoops! It's in the Combat Events Report.

1st Ind.Infantry Brigade RETREATING towards Lao Cai
2nd Ind.Mixed Regiment RETREATING towards Lao Cai
31st Mountain Gun Regiment RETREATING towards Lang Son

So maybe fortuitous in splitting up the enemy forces to be attacked piecemeal.

Our four divisions at Haiphong are moving E to cross the river there, one day in move mode thereafter in combat mode. Imperial units opposing them now show eastward movement. All Allied 4EB will now target them to slow them down for ground troops to catch up and attack them.

The light bombardment of Haiphong, while very effectives in the combat result, seemed to have no impact on air operations. It did, however, stop the base from building to a size 4 airfield this turn. A squadron of PT boats has been rehydrated for harbor defense.

Success on Borneo, but Ternate is a grind like Chiang Mai.

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Ground combat at 56,89 (near Pontianak)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3477 troops, 48 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 113

Defending force 818 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7

Allied adjusted assault: 23

Japanese adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 7 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), morale(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
286 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 14 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
21th JNAF AF Unit


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Ground combat at Ternate (78,102)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4417 troops, 178 guns, 101 vehicles, Assault Value = 100

Defending force 3371 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 45

Allied adjusted assault: 81

Japanese adjusted defense: 4

Allied assault odds: 20 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
154 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
31st Infantry Regiment
147th Field Artillery Battalion
148th Field Artillery Battalion
260th Field Artillery Battalion
205th Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
12th Garrison Unit


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The 147th will head into Pontianak on assumption that the 21th JNAF AF Unit will do the same but with the benefit of a road. They are in the open now so air strikes might slow them to a crawl. Ternate again tomorrow.

The sweeps of Manila went well enough, but the first group in had a hard time.

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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 26 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 18
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 23
Ki-84a Frank x 20

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 21000 feet

CAP engaged:
S-301 Hikotai Det A with N1K2-J George (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 19000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
S-301 Hikotai Det B with N1K2-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(23 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 10 being recalled, 10 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
5th Sentai/B with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 7 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
5th Sentai/C with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 1 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 39,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 15
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 15
Ki-84a Frank x 15

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 3 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 4 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 37000 feet

CAP engaged:
5th Sentai/B with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 31514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
S-301 Hikotai Det A with N1K2-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 19000 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
S-301 Hikotai Det B with N1K2-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 22000 and 22848.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
5th Sentai/C with Ki-84a Frank (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters between 22000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 5
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 6
Ki-84a Frank x 7

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 31000 feet

CAP engaged:
5th Sentai/B with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 33276.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
S-301 Hikotai Det A with N1K2-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 19000 , scrambling fighters to 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
S-301 Hikotai Det B with N1K2-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 23000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
5th Sentai/C with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters to 26000.
Raid is overhead
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 26000 and 33276.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 2
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3
Ki-84a Frank x 1

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

CAP engaged:
5th Sentai/B with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
S-301 Hikotai Det A with N1K2-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 19000 , scrambling fighters to 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 23000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
S-301 Hikotai Det B with N1K2-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 68 NM, estimated altitude 42,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 2
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1
Ki-84a Frank x 1

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 37000 feet

CAP engaged:
5th Sentai/B with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
S-301 Hikotai Det A with N1K2-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 19000 , scrambling fighters to 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
S-301 Hikotai Det B with N1K2-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 34000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 52 NM, estimated altitude 37,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 31000 feet

CAP engaged:
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 33276.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes



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We got about a 3 to 1 ratio in our favor. I just discovered that I set the wrong altitude - 21,000 ft instead of 31,000 ft - for the P-38 group that had such a tussle. Self inflicted!

Indochina.

[witpqs]

Malay Peninsula & Sumatra.

[witpqs]

Borneo.

[witpqs]

The river-crossers. A tired lot! One division has more than 60 disabled squads, but that looks to be the worst of it.

[witpqs]

Today's Air Losses.

[zuluhour]

Quite a nice ratio, my handsome simian friend. I have had a time scrapping with the Nicks. The Frank and Nick
handle themselves against P38s and even 70s trained P47 flyboys. Only my best P47 squadron seems to deal
with them. I wish I could test the Spits but can't get them involved in anything but defense.

[witpqs]

OK, some calculations. Each Troop tally presented below is total of all assigned units' troop load cost + 30%. Each Equipment tally presented below is total of all assigned units' cargo load cost + 30%. HQ units which will not land, such as Amphib Force HQs and Command HQs, have not been included in the tallies. Extra supply, which must be delivered in large amounts, is not included in the tallies.

Nago Invasion Force Totals
Troop Lift: 34,778
Equip Lift: 32,868
Base Load: 35,868 (Stacking Limit: 35,000)

Naha Invasion Force Totals
Troop Lift: 93,737
Equip Lift: 135,087
Base Load: 108,724 (Stacking Limit: 50,000)

So it seems like it will be more practical to bring the entire Nago force and half of the Naha force in the first wave.

The second wave could be either Daito Shoto or the remainder of the Naha force, and the third wave being the other. The Daito Shoto force is large (I haven't tallied it yet but you've seen the units assigned) and needs significant extra lift to get all units ashore ASAP due to the obligatory shock attack.

[witpqs]

Daito Shoto Invasion Force Totals
Troop Lift: 69,915
Equip Lift: 55,255
Base Load: 69,268 (Stacking Limit: 40,000)

[witpqs]

Nago: 949 AV

Naha: 2,873 AV

Daito Shoto: 1,834 AV

[BBfanboy]

EDIT: Deleted as witpqs cleared up my confusion.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: witpqs

OK, some calculations. Each Troop tally presented below is total of all assigned units' troop load cost + 30%. Each Equipment tally presented below is total of all assigned units' cargo load cost + 30%. HQ units which will not land, such as Amphib Force HQs and Command HQs, have not been included in the tallies. Extra supply, which must be delivered in large amounts, is not included in the tallies.

Nago Invasion Force Totals
Troop Lift: 34,778
Equip Lift: 32,868
Base Load: 35,868 (Stacking Limit: 35,000)

Naha Invasion Force Totals
Troop Lift: 93,737
Equip Lift: 135,087
Base Load: 108,724 (Stacking Limit: 50,000)

So it seems like it will be more practical to bring the entire Nago force and half of the Naha force in the first wave.

The second wave could be either Daito Shoto or the remainder of the Nago force, and the third wave being the other. The Daito Shoto force is large (I haven't tallied it yet but you've seen the units assigned) and needs significant extra lift to get all units ashore ASAP due to the obligatory shock attack.

You muddied the waters a bit here. First you said the entire Nago force would go in the first wave, then you talked about bringing half of it with the second wave/Daito Shoto load. Is it all of the Naha troops and ½ of the Nago troops in the first wave?

That should have read "Naha". Fixing original post now...

[witpqs]

Good catch!