Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Lowpe (J)

[JocMeister]

[font="Verdana"]Asansol[/font]
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Next attack should do it! [:)]

Ground combat at Asansol (53,34)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 69963 troops, 1190 guns, 989 vehicles, Assault Value = 2209

Defending force 36030 troops, 524 guns, 360 vehicles, Assault Value = 1052

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 0 [&o]

Allied adjusted assault: 962

Japanese adjusted defense: 543

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2615 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 269 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 43 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 31 disabled
Guns lost 82 (12 destroyed, 70 disabled)
Vehicles lost 42 (3 destroyed, 39 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1527 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 197 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 70 (3 destroyed, 67 disabled)
Vehicles lost 28 (1 destroyed, 27 disabled)

Assaulting units:
7th Australian Division
7th Armoured Brigade
6th Australian Division
32nd Infantry Division
254th Armoured Brigade
18th British Division
70th British Division
77th Heavy AA Regiment
1st Indian Light AA Regiment
95th Heavy AA Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
2/11th Field Regiment
2/1st Med Regiment
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment

Defending units:
4th Guards Division
38th Division
8th Tank Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
17th Indpt Guards Regiment
20th AA Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
28th JNAF AF Unit
3rd Mortar Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
51st Field AA Battalion
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Bn /5

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

[font="Verdana"]Asansol[/font]
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Next attack should do it! [:)]

Ground combat at Asansol (53,34)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 69963 troops, 1190 guns, 989 vehicles, Assault Value = 2209

Defending force 36030 troops, 524 guns, 360 vehicles, Assault Value = 1052

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 0 [&o]

Allied adjusted assault: 962

Japanese adjusted defense: 543

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2615 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 269 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 43 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 31 disabled
Guns lost 82 (12 destroyed, 70 disabled)
Vehicles lost 42 (3 destroyed, 39 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1527 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 197 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 70 (3 destroyed, 67 disabled)
Vehicles lost 28 (1 destroyed, 27 disabled)

Assaulting units:
7th Australian Division
7th Armoured Brigade
6th Australian Division
32nd Infantry Division
254th Armoured Brigade
18th British Division
70th British Division
77th Heavy AA Regiment
1st Indian Light AA Regiment
95th Heavy AA Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
2/11th Field Regiment
2/1st Med Regiment
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment

Defending units:
4th Guards Division
38th Division
8th Tank Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
17th Indpt Guards Regiment
20th AA Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
28th JNAF AF Unit
3rd Mortar Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
51st Field AA Battalion
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Bn /5

If I had read what you had posted earlier, I would've told you to shock [;)]. You would've gotten 3:1 odds in this particular case and routed him.

But in any case, I would've told you to do so (or rather, that I would have shocked) because: the adjusted odds you got in your last attack (well over 1:1); his supply chain is longer; and there's just no way he got forts up to 2 again with only 2 divisions' worth of organic engineers (that's about 60...) and an AF unit (8?). Even if he had gotten forts back to 2, it wouldn't have been enough to shift the odds in his favor.

[JeffroK]

I think the window for 3-4 IDs to run rampage in SOPAC are way past now. The OZ army actually upgrade from a militia to proper IDs in spring 42. Very light TOE but not that different from a standard Jap ID.

Most important factor though is forts. I have had 10 months to build forts. All important places have level 5-8 forts.

My thought was to use the 3-4 Divs to take a base, something like north of Rockhampton, using follow up formations to occupy the smaller ports and inland bases.

Given your fort building this might become very hard but you cant have a Division at every potential target.

I'm trying to make sense of running KB & substantial support shipping into the area, at this point he has to be careful in his use of resources, both shipping & oil.

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
If I had read what you had posted earlier, I would've told you to shock [;)]. You would've gotten 3:1 odds in this particular case and routed him.

But in any case, I would've told you to do so (or rather, that I would have shocked) because: the adjusted odds you got in your last attack (well over 1:1); his supply chain is longer; and there's just no way he got forts up to 2 again with only 2 divisions' worth of organic engineers (that's about 60...) and an AF unit (8?). Even if he had gotten forts back to 2, it wouldn't have been enough to shift the odds in his favor.

Yeah, I know. Hindsight and all I should have. But even a successful shock could have put a lot of hurt on my troops. And Jeff has at least 4 other IDs in the area. Don´t want to beat up my troops so badly I have to go on the defensive again. I like having the initiative. [:)]

There will be more opportunities even if he moves out. [:)]

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: JeffK
My thought was to use the 3-4 Divs to take a base, something like north of Rockhampton, using follow up formations to occupy the smaller ports and inland bases.

Given your fort building this might become very hard but you cant have a Division at every potential target.

I'm trying to make sense of running KB & substantial support shipping into the area, at this point he has to be careful in his use of resources, both shipping & oil.

I don´t think that is doable any more. There is over 3000 Allied AV in OZ including 3 good divisions and some powerful armored units. He would need at least 2000 AV to have any chance of staying. [:)]

I can´t really understand the reasoning for him starting something down here now either. Especially not when things arn´t really going his way in India and NORPAC. He has stalled in India and is actually on the defensive there and NORPAC has completely ground to a halt.

Opening a 3rd front right now makes little sense. Especially in a place where he has absolutely zero infrastructure and most of the USN are focused.

[JocMeister]

PS. Havn´t gotten the turn back yet. Jeff gave me a heads up we will be slowing down the pace for a while as Christmas approaches. I don´t mind that as I´m leaving town next Sunday and will be gone for a week.

[JocMeister]

[font="Verdana"]SOPAC[/font]
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Here we go! [X(]

[JocMeister]

[font="Verdana"]Intel[/font]
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Another excellent example of why its important to read everything thoroughly!

Coastwatcher Report: CV Zuikaku reported in port at Tulagi

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

[font="Verdana"]Intel[/font]
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Another excellent example of why its important to read everything thoroughly!

Coastwatcher Report: CV Zuikaku reported in port at Tulagi

I'd bet the farm that she isn't there. That might be an xAK, though. Maybe. Or it might be an Ansyu-class PB.

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
I'd bet the farm that she isn't there. That might be an xAK, though. Maybe. Or it might be an Ansyu-class PB.

I don´t have a farm to bet! You might be right. If I can get some additional reports that would be nice. This is how I kept track of the KB in my game with Erik.

Every second turn or so I got a CV spotted at Tulagi or "130 ships in Tulagi harbor".

[RogerJNeilson]

You must have A Grade Coastwatchers in your game, in mine they are Z grade and that is being generous. Either they missed out on their shipment of spectacles, or they indulge in some wild mushroom stuff before going for a look at a port.

Roger

[CaptBeefheart]

I think coastwatchers were the first people to synthesize LSD.

Sad to see Templeton is now made in Indiana. My other favorite rye, Bulleit, is also made there. Must be the same outfit.

Cheers,
CC

[paradigmblue]

[s]Bulleit is made in Lawrenceburg.[/s]

Whoops, you're talking about the Rye, not the Bourbon.

[paradigmblue]

ORIGINAL: Commander Cody

I think coastwatchers were the first people to synthesize LSD.

Sad to see Templeton is now made in Indiana. My other favorite rye, Bulleit, is also made there. Must be the same outfit.

Cheers,
CC

They're both made at Midwest Grain Products in Indiana, which also produces many of the whiskeys used to make Seagrams 7.

Interestingly enough, Templeton Rye is made by taking a standard receipe rye whisky from MGP, and then adding artificial flavors in Iowa, where it's bottled.

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
I'd bet the farm that she isn't there. That might be an xAK, though. Maybe. Or it might be an Ansyu-class PB.

I don´t have a farm to bet! You might be right. If I can get some additional reports that would be nice. This is how I kept track of the KB in my game with Erik.

Every second turn or so I got a CV spotted at Tulagi or "130 ships in Tulagi harbor".

I got CVs spotted at Lae, Gasmata, Kavieng, etc., while I was fighting for Milne Bay and Shortlands, when I knew for a fact that my opponent's KB was not anywhere near that close to the front lines.

[tiemanjw]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

[font="Verdana"]Intel[/font]
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Another excellent example of why its important to read everything thoroughly!

Coastwatcher Report: CV Zuikaku reported in port at Tulagi

I'd bet the farm that she isn't there. That might be an xAK, though. Maybe. Or it might be an Ansyu-class PB.

Maybe not the farm from me, but I got a CV spotted constantly at some crap pot on the New Guinea coast... every other day or so. When I finally sent some B24s to investigate, they just found a an xAK.

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
I got CVs spotted at Lae, Gasmata, Kavieng, etc., while I was fighting for Milne Bay and Shortlands, when I knew for a fact that my opponent's KB was not anywhere near that close to the front lines.

Thats odd. I´ve never gotten anything like that! Only reports on actual CVs from coastwatchers have been quite reliable. At least in my game with Erik.

This is actually the first time I´ve gotten it since then.

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
I got CVs spotted at Lae, Gasmata, Kavieng, etc., while I was fighting for Milne Bay and Shortlands, when I knew for a fact that my opponent's KB was not anywhere near that close to the front lines.

Thats odd. I´ve never gotten anything like that! Only reports on actual CVs from coastwatchers have been quite reliable. At least in my game with Erik.

This is actually the first time I´ve gotten it since then.

I have sometimes gotten the same AKE--by name-at two bases 400 miles apart on the same day. I pretty much ignore coastwatcher data.

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
I got CVs spotted at Lae, Gasmata, Kavieng, etc., while I was fighting for Milne Bay and Shortlands, when I knew for a fact that my opponent's KB was not anywhere near that close to the front lines.

Thats odd. I´ve never gotten anything like that! Only reports on actual CVs from coastwatchers have been quite reliable. At least in my game with Erik.

This is actually the first time I´ve gotten it since then.

I have sometimes gotten the same AKE--by name-at two bases 400 miles apart on the same day. I pretty much ignore coastwatcher data.

Ah yes, this happens too. The coastwatchers are all drunk.

[jwolf]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

Ah yes, this happens too. The coastwatchers are all drunk.

So that old Cary Grant movie had it right? [:D]