Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Lowpe (J)

[JocMeister]

Still, one would think they could differ a CV from an AKE. Right? [:D]

Jeff didn´t have time to finish the turn yesterday. Hopefully I´ll get it tomorrow. I did get the replay and CR but unfortunately the replay was the wrong one. The CR was correct though but doesn´t tell me enough to do an update.

What I do know though is the Japanese abandoned Asansol! Only a BF remained which was wrecked. First real allied victory is a fact. Huzzah! [:)]

[lkulka]

nice game:)

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: lkulka

nice game:)

Indeed! Welcome to the AAR! [:)]

[JocMeister]

[font="Verdana"]SOPAC[/font]
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Looks like the fleet turned East? Heading for Santa Cruz/Espiritu Santu?

[poodlebrain]

How much fuel is being used for this operation? It seems a lot more than anything other than Noumea is worth. What sort of trouble can you stir up in the Indian Ocean and along the West Coast to take advantage of the KB being in the SW Pacific? See if you can get the Japanese to expend even more fuel reacting to your distant operations.

[BBfanboy]

No CVs in that gaggle of TFs? Looks like a massive raiding force - maybe he fell under the "need to do something" trance! [:D]

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: poodlebrain
How much fuel is being used for this operation? It seems a lot more than anything other than Noumea is worth. What sort of trouble can you stir up in the Indian Ocean and along the West Coast to take advantage of the KB being in the SW Pacific? See if you can get the Japanese to expend even more fuel reacting to your distant operations.

Probably a big amount! Lots of shipping moving around by the looks of it!

What can I do now? Its the question. I´ve intentionally put it off for now. We will only be able to do 2-3 turns before the Christmas Holiday. It will be a good time to ponder how to use this situation to my advantage! [:)]

I have a couple of options that looks interesting:
1. Counter attack in CENTPAC. (Hilo or Christmas)
2. Counter attack in NORPAC. (retake Coal Harbor)
3. Amphib landing in the IO (Sumatra? Burma coast? Adamans?)
4. Reinforce SOPAC and try something there.

None of these can be instantly put into motion and will require 3-4 months to prepare. The reality of things is that I can do very little short term. I´m basically still in a defensive stance and need to reprep and/or wait for PPs to buy out more units.

I´m also seriously behind in base expansion as much of my engineering capabilities has been focused on building forts rather then preparing bases for coming offensives.

Lots to ponder over Christmas! [:)]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

No CVs in that gaggle of TFs? Looks like a massive raiding force - maybe he fell under the "need to do something" trance! [:D]

No definitive sightings. But I would be very surprised if KB wasn´t among those ships!

[Canoerebel]

Beware, Joc. Any major amphibious undertaking probably requires your carriers. Don't take chances now unless you're absolutely certain the KB is far away and that LBA isn't a risk. Japan remains dominant at sea and in the air through '42 and well into '43. Don't give Lowpe a carrier battle victory when he's trying for auto victory.

[Canoerebel]

I didn't say that well, Joc. I know you know all these things. What I mean to say is this: ward off the feeling that you have to do something or ought to be doing something now. Be very careful with your carriers.

[JeffroK]

Small bites.

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I didn't say that well, Joc. I know you know all these things. What I mean to say is this: ward off the feeling that you have to do something or ought to be doing something now. Be very careful with your carriers.

Ah, no need to apologize. [:)]

Yeah, I already lost Lex and can ill afford another one! Any amphib operation (if any) will be far away from KB. An SOPAC operation sounds interesting for many reasons right now.

Low risk with a good chance of forcing Japan to quickly start to reinforce taking troops intended for other use. Besides Jeff seems to finally have taken an interest down here. I also have pretty much everything already down here although I´m short on fuel and proper bases. In a large part much can be done down there under LBA even with a KB presence.

Besides, Jeff seems to really have taken an interest down here lately! [:D]

[JocMeister]

[font="Verdana"]SOPAC + KB[/font]
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Still going south and KB is there as expected. Still not replenished his fighters...if this is a landing its an odd one. While Noumea isn´t an aerodrome its still a level 4 AF. Same with Suva.

With KB this low on fighters it will be tough providing cover for a landing as well as maintaining CAP. He knows my CVs are down here. I´m actually within strike range of KB right now if I decide to move in.

Lets see how Jeff plays this.

[Canoerebel]

I'll eat a tomato if he has less than 350 fighters (and I don't like tomatoes).

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I'll eat a tomato if he has less than 350 fighters (and I don't like tomatoes).

[:D]

I think its pretty accurate. He lost around 80-120 fighters over Brisbane not too long ago and I´m not sure he have had time to replenish yet. He would have to go all the way back to Rabaul to do that.

55 is probably a bit too optimistic but if he has over 100 I would be surprised (unless he has replenished). [:)]

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I'll eat a tomato if he has less than 350 fighters (and I don't like tomatoes).

[:D]

I think its pretty accurate. He lost around 80-120 fighters over Brisbane not too long ago and I´m not sure he have had time to replenish yet. He would have to go all the way back to Rabaul to do that.

55 is probably a bit too optimistic but if he has over 100 I would be surprised (unless he has replenished). [:)]

At this time of the war.... 250 bombers means about 6 big decks. So, the original KB.

There's just no way they have less than 10 planes per fighter squadron. If this scenario keeps other things from Scen 2, then they resized to 27 on July 1 (from 18) and are resize capable to anything he wants after that. I don't think you have full DL here, or if you do it is somehow undercounting fighters (65 auxiliary? seems really high...even with a CS in there).

The DB/TB squadrons likewise resize slightly on July 1 to make room for the fighters, but it's still about a 2:1 ratio.

[ny59giants]

Depending on what CVs are present, their fighter groups are 21, 24, or 27 planes. As a general rule of thumb, I use 25 per CV as estimate. CVL/CVEs are 18 or 21. So, KB could have 8 CVs as Junyo and Hiyo should be completed.

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Depending on what CVs are present, their fighter groups are 21, 24, or 27 planes. As a general rule of thumb, I use 25 per CV as estimate. CVL/CVEs are 18 or 21. So, KB could have 8 CVs as Junyo and Hiyo should be completed.

I forget what the game date is. Isn't it July? That's a bit of a squeeze for the second of Junyo/Hiyo, unless they were accelerated, as it doesn't arrive until late May on normal schedule.

I thought the original six KB CVs all resized to 27? I know Akagi, Kaga, Shokaku, and Zuikaku all should...

Still, what stands out to me is the 65 auxiliary. Some of those have got to actually be fighters.

[richlove]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
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Still, what stands out to me is the 65 auxiliary. Some of those have got to actually be fighters.

Don't damaged aircraft show up as auxiliary? Did I make that up?

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: richlove

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
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Still, what stands out to me is the 65 auxiliary. Some of those have got to actually be fighters.

Don't damaged aircraft show up as auxiliary? Did I make that up?

I never heard that. [&:]

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Depending on what CVs are present, their fighter groups are 21, 24, or 27 planes. As a general rule of thumb, I use 25 per CV as estimate. CVL/CVEs are 18 or 21. So, KB could have 8 CVs as Junyo and Hiyo should be completed.

I forget what the game date is. Isn't it July? That's a bit of a squeeze for the second of Junyo/Hiyo, unless they were accelerated, as it doesn't arrive until late May on normal schedule.

I thought the original six KB CVs all resized to 27? I know Akagi, Kaga, Shokaku, and Zuikaku all should...

Still, what stands out to me is the 65 auxiliary. Some of those have got to actually be fighters.

What if he hasn´t converted the CSs? Wasn´t too long ago (a month or so) when a sub encountered one of them.

PS. I´ll be the first to admit I´m wrong from time to time . Just got this in the same turn!

Coastwatcher Report: CV Zuikaku reported in port at Tulagi
Coastwatcher Report: CV Zuikaku reported in port at Coal Harbour

I hate being wrong! [:D]