Industry Productin

[agors]

I would like to ask you which kinds of weapons you produce. For example, if you play the german side you have to choose between JU87D, HS129 or ME110 as fight-bombers.
Later in the war is it a good idea to pruce the jet-fighter (ME262)?

For me it is always hard to decide which kind of plane I should produce.

Another question: is there any idea how I find a good compromise between quality an d quantitiy? Are 100 PzIIIj better than 50 Panthers? How do you solve such problems?

Thanks in advance,
Andreas

[ShadowPanzer]

This is my production list upgrades for Germans.

name............atk.....def.....cost....avail
PzKpfw-IIIh 9 7 5 6/41
PzKpfw-IVe 7 6 5 6/41
=
PzKpfw-IVg 14 7 4 5/42
Tiger 18 16 7 8/42


Stug-IIIb 5 7 3 6/41
Stug-IIIg 14 9 3 5/42

PzJg-1b 8 2 2 6/41
Marder II 14 3 4 3/42
Elefant 22 22 9 1/43
Hetzer 14 10 3 4/44


name............type....antiair.can.....load....end.....durab...cost....avail
Fw-190A 0 23 14 20 14 32 4 6/41


Ju-87B 2 5 2 11 24 25 4 6/41
Ju-87D 2 7 4 38 33 28 5 11/41
Hs-129 3 3 15 7 10 47 6 8/42


He-111H 4 7 0 44 41 36 7 6/41
Ju-88A 4 9 0 44 28 35 7 6/41
=
He-177 4 18 0 125 19 48 12 11/42

[wieschi]

Hi Andreas,

100 PzIII or 50 Panthers?
Good question. I don`t really know.
I think for the odds, the PzIII`s are better.
But the losses will probably be higher.

my production list:

PzIIIh --> PzIIIj ---> Panther (No Tigers)
Stug IIIb ---> Stug IIIg
Marder III ---> Elefant ---> Hetzer

FW-190A (Nothing else)
Ju-87D to Jan1943, then convert to He-177
(the Stukkas are only okay, when you have air superiority)

Ju-88 and He111 ---> He-177
(with good experience the 177´s needs no escort)

Greetings from Karlsruhe
Axel
PS. Im looking for an opponent for a possum6 game

[WarPig]

I created a little formula that helps me to decide what to produce.

For tanks I multiply the attack strength by two and add the defense strength, then divide the whole thing by its cost.

For example:
The Tiger strength is 18, its defense 16, cost 7.

Then (18*2)+16= 88, divided by its cost (7), turns to 7.43

For comparison purposes, which tank is better to buy, lets use the Panther.
A=20; D=14; C=6 Result: 9.00

This means that the Panther is more cost effective than the Tiger by almost 1.5. So I would prefer Panthers instead of Tigers.

For airplanes I use the following:
Maneouver = M
Guns = G
Load = L
Range = R
Durability = D
Cost = C

For fighters:
(M*4)+(G*3)+L+(R*2)+(D*2) and divide it by its cost.

Fighter-bombers: (M*3)+(G*3)+(L*3)+(R*2)+(D*2) and divide it by its cost.

Dive-bombers: (M*3)+(G*3)+(L*4)+(R)+(D) and divide it by its cost.

Bombers: (M*3)+(G)+(L*4)+(R*2)+(D*2) and divide it by its cost.

Anti-Tank planes: (M*3)+(G*4)+(L*3)+(R)+(D*2) and divide it by its cost.

Note that the result are significative only if you compare it with the other planes of the same kind. You'll be surprise to find out which one is more cost effective than the other.

If you want to find out the pure combat value, regardless of its price, do not divide the results by the cost.

I hope it helps.

[agors]

Hi,

having calculated your formulas I find them helpfully. Thank you. But I must repeat my first question. Let's take an example again. If I used your formula the old PzIIf would be better than a PzV "Panther".

This shouldn't work! At least we need to know how the program fight a single better, corps against corps. Any hints?

Andreas

[WarPig]

Hi there,

Make a note that the PzKw IIf is a light tank, not a medium.

The formulae is only a help. You must also consider what is it what the enemy has or will have.

For example, if you take the PzJg Ib and the Marder II. The former is more price worthy (9.00) than the later (7.75). However, the PzJg Ib has only 9 of attack and the T-34 M40 already has 10 defense. That pretty much discards the production of this tank because it would not be able to stand up to the T-34. Accordingly, I would rather produce the Marder II because it attacks at 14, even though that it not as price "worthy" as the other.

However, if you have to choose whether to produce PzKw IIIHs or IVe, or Marder IIs or IIIs, the formula tells which one is better.

WarPig