Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
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RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Doesn't look good for Lexington, but you should give her a couple of cruisers plus DDs in her escort TF to help fight the fires and keep the sharks at bay.
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RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Interesting that the AI has split the KB into several groups. They are in the same area at the moment but eventually they may split up and that will give an opportunity for you to pit two or more of your carriers against a CV/CVL TF. Once Japan loses two or three of its CVs, the game gets much less dangerous for the Allies.
Schlussel: it allows the rest of my forces time to strategic move to Myitkyina in preparation for their run through the jungle.
They are going to need some music for that trek....
CCR- Run Through The Jungle
Actually its pretty standard for the AI to split the KB and use it in penny packets that the Allies can easily defeat.
In literally dozens upon dozens of games against the AI I have NEVER seen it keep its carriers concentrated.
After the novelty and glee of the first few victories wears off you will begin to dread the approach of yet another single CV with a CVL to your LBA bastions.
I have been known to stand down my LBA and move my carriers away to avoid sinking yet more enemy carriers.
You really have to coddle the AI.
Hans
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Done, let's hope for the best.ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Doesn't look good for Lexington, but you should give her a couple of cruisers plus DDs in her escort TF to help fight the fires and keep the sharks at bay.
You say we're surrounded?
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Hmmm, yeah so far the AI has kept most of the KB in the DEI, but they are always in small groups operating in the same general area.ORIGINAL: HansBolter
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Interesting that the AI has split the KB into several groups. They are in the same area at the moment but eventually they may split up and that will give an opportunity for you to pit two or more of your carriers against a CV/CVL TF. Once Japan loses two or three of its CVs, the game gets much less dangerous for the Allies.
Schlussel: it allows the rest of my forces time to strategic move to Myitkyina in preparation for their run through the jungle.
They are going to need some music for that trek....
CCR- Run Through The Jungle
Actually its pretty standard for the AI to split the KB and use it in penny packets that the Allies can easily defeat.
In literally dozens upon dozens of games against the AI I have NEVER seen it keep its carriers concentrated.
After the novelty and glee of the first few victories wears off you will begin to dread the approach of yet another single CV with a CVL to your LBA bastions.
I have been known to stand down my LBA and move my carriers away to avoid sinking yet more enemy carriers.
You really have to coddle the AI.
The first Japanese CV group to attack in the Solomons was a CV and CVL, but the second group that attacked a few days later near Lunga looks to be 2 CV's & a CVL(Zuikaku, Hiryu, & Junyo). I guess that's a good sign.
If the AI does start doing what you mentioned, I'll definitely take the same approach as you. A little coddling isn't so bad if it means it results in a good challenge.
You say we're surrounded?
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Week 22: May 5th – May 11th 1942
North Pacific:
Base building continues at Adak. No IJN activity in the region.
Central Pacific:
Sector is quiet.
Southern Pacific:
IJN looks to have abandoned Nukufeatu in the Ellice Island chain. I am continuing to build up neighboring Viatupu, slowly but surely.
New Guinea/Solomons:
I obviously got ahead of myself here. Last week I assumed I had forced the Japanese to retire, but I turns out it was just part of the Carrier force the Japanese committed to the area. The night after my glorious tactical draw in the Solomon Sea, an IJN surface force (2-CA/2-DD) attacked my carrier TF west of Rossel Island. My CA’s and DD’s weren’t able to effectively screen my carriers, and the Japanese force was able to close into gun range and hit 3 of my carriers.
Hornet took 3 shell hits and suffered 7-ENG/11-SYS/8-FLT
Yorktown took 2 shell hits and suffered 5-ENG/12-SYS/6-FLT
Enterprise took only 2 shell hits, but one caused an ammo explosion and resulted in 66-SYS/26-FLT/79-FIRE. I attempted to limp the Enterprise to port, but she sank two days later. Adding a little more salt (water) in the wound, the fire prevented the air groups from transferring off the Enterprise, so they went down with the ship.
I did get a little bit of revenge mid-week, when a reported 3 Japanese CV’s (in multiple TF’s) appeared east of Lunga. One TF got within reaction range of my PT boats @ Lunga. In the night battle that followed, it was my PT boats that slipped by the Japanese escorts and put two torps into the Junyo and sank her. One PT boat sank during the attack, but I’d say that was a good trade. One interesting note: the combat report & replay said the Junyo was sunk, but then the Kaga was listed on the sunk ship report the next day, hmmmm…FoW strikes again.
Unfazed by my PT boat attack, the IJN carrier force (now estimated @ 4-CV’s) re-appeared and launched a large raid on Lunga (15 fighters/60 bombers). I had 40 planes on CAP (an equal amount of Wildcats, Warhawks, and Airacobras) and the air battle that followed was encouraging, while I lost more fighters (9 vs. 2), I was able to take out 24 Vals/Kates. The remaining bombers hit Lunga pretty good (4 Supply/12 Port/3 Port Supply) and also destroyed 7 fighters on the ground.
Elsewhere in the region, the ground battle @ Milne Bay continues. AV is 85/60 in favor of the Allies, but they are low on supply. Noumea is building up nicely, and a large amount of troops are now stationed there. In anticipation of my plan to advance up the Solomon Island chain, I have begun prepping a few infantry and support units for Munda, my first target. Recon doesn’t show a garrison there, but I’m sure that will change once I am able to launch my assault.
My CV’s damaged in the Solomon Sea battle are headed to Brisbane & Sydney for minor repairs. Following that they will head to Pearl Harbor for some well-deserved dry-dock time.
DEI/Philippines:
In the Philippines, the Allied bases are isolated and low on supplies. The Cebu/Iioilo area is all that remains in Allied hands.
In the DEI, IJA land forces capture Soerabaja, effectively ending Allied resistance on Java. There are a few rogue Allied forces in the countryside, but they are out of supply and being bombed into oblivion.
SE Asia/China:
In central Burma, my forces are in full retreat mode, trying to reach the safety of the Indian border. Along the coast, my defensive line follows the river south of Akyab. Bombers from Calcutta target the IJN troops that approach.
In China, I took the opportunity to recapture Wuchow. My force outside the city outnumbered the Japanese AV 10:1. The city also has some supply generation…every little bit counts. The rest of China is still in defensive/supply conservation mode
KB Watch:
-2-CV sighted north east of Shortlands. (5/5)
-3-CV sighted east of Lunga (5/6)
-4-CV sighted east of Lunga (5/7)
-4-CV sighted east of Lunga (5/8)
-1-CV sighted north of Batavia (5/8)
Notable Base Captures:
-Wuchow [China] captured by the Allies (5/5)
-Soerabaja [Java] captured by Japan (5/8)
-San Jose [Philippines] captured by Japan (5/10)
Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 1,363 [+189] Biggest Losses (#): Dauntless (128), Buffalo (124), 139WH3 (83)
Japanese: 2,006 [+210] Biggest Losses (#): Betty (419), Zero (300), Val (184)
Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 232 [+13] Notables: CV Enterprise, CA Portland, CA Adelaide, CL Durban, CL Sumatra, CL Java
Japanese: 230 [+8] Notables: CV Kaga (or Junyo?), CVL Zuiho, CVE Taiyo, CVE Hosho, CA Mogami, CA Mikuma, CA Suzya, CA Adoba.
Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 7,288 [+460]
Japanese: 1,647 [+40]
A/J Ratio: 4.43 to 1
VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 14,892 [+727]
Japanese: 16,468 [+1,270]
A/J Ratio: 0.90 to 1
Other Notes:
-I am setting a little trap for the IJN @ Cox’s Bazaar. It seems every time I send a supply convoy there, the IJN sorties a small CC/DD force that attacks/sinks it while it is unloading. This time, I am sending a small convoy to Cox’s Bazaar, but I will also sortie my 2 British CVs, and lurk a few hexes to the north-west. A hunting we will go, a hunting we will go…
North Pacific:
Base building continues at Adak. No IJN activity in the region.
Central Pacific:
Sector is quiet.
Southern Pacific:
IJN looks to have abandoned Nukufeatu in the Ellice Island chain. I am continuing to build up neighboring Viatupu, slowly but surely.
New Guinea/Solomons:
I obviously got ahead of myself here. Last week I assumed I had forced the Japanese to retire, but I turns out it was just part of the Carrier force the Japanese committed to the area. The night after my glorious tactical draw in the Solomon Sea, an IJN surface force (2-CA/2-DD) attacked my carrier TF west of Rossel Island. My CA’s and DD’s weren’t able to effectively screen my carriers, and the Japanese force was able to close into gun range and hit 3 of my carriers.
Hornet took 3 shell hits and suffered 7-ENG/11-SYS/8-FLT
Yorktown took 2 shell hits and suffered 5-ENG/12-SYS/6-FLT
Enterprise took only 2 shell hits, but one caused an ammo explosion and resulted in 66-SYS/26-FLT/79-FIRE. I attempted to limp the Enterprise to port, but she sank two days later. Adding a little more salt (water) in the wound, the fire prevented the air groups from transferring off the Enterprise, so they went down with the ship.
I did get a little bit of revenge mid-week, when a reported 3 Japanese CV’s (in multiple TF’s) appeared east of Lunga. One TF got within reaction range of my PT boats @ Lunga. In the night battle that followed, it was my PT boats that slipped by the Japanese escorts and put two torps into the Junyo and sank her. One PT boat sank during the attack, but I’d say that was a good trade. One interesting note: the combat report & replay said the Junyo was sunk, but then the Kaga was listed on the sunk ship report the next day, hmmmm…FoW strikes again.
Unfazed by my PT boat attack, the IJN carrier force (now estimated @ 4-CV’s) re-appeared and launched a large raid on Lunga (15 fighters/60 bombers). I had 40 planes on CAP (an equal amount of Wildcats, Warhawks, and Airacobras) and the air battle that followed was encouraging, while I lost more fighters (9 vs. 2), I was able to take out 24 Vals/Kates. The remaining bombers hit Lunga pretty good (4 Supply/12 Port/3 Port Supply) and also destroyed 7 fighters on the ground.
Elsewhere in the region, the ground battle @ Milne Bay continues. AV is 85/60 in favor of the Allies, but they are low on supply. Noumea is building up nicely, and a large amount of troops are now stationed there. In anticipation of my plan to advance up the Solomon Island chain, I have begun prepping a few infantry and support units for Munda, my first target. Recon doesn’t show a garrison there, but I’m sure that will change once I am able to launch my assault.
My CV’s damaged in the Solomon Sea battle are headed to Brisbane & Sydney for minor repairs. Following that they will head to Pearl Harbor for some well-deserved dry-dock time.
DEI/Philippines:
In the Philippines, the Allied bases are isolated and low on supplies. The Cebu/Iioilo area is all that remains in Allied hands.
In the DEI, IJA land forces capture Soerabaja, effectively ending Allied resistance on Java. There are a few rogue Allied forces in the countryside, but they are out of supply and being bombed into oblivion.
SE Asia/China:
In central Burma, my forces are in full retreat mode, trying to reach the safety of the Indian border. Along the coast, my defensive line follows the river south of Akyab. Bombers from Calcutta target the IJN troops that approach.
In China, I took the opportunity to recapture Wuchow. My force outside the city outnumbered the Japanese AV 10:1. The city also has some supply generation…every little bit counts. The rest of China is still in defensive/supply conservation mode
KB Watch:
-2-CV sighted north east of Shortlands. (5/5)
-3-CV sighted east of Lunga (5/6)
-4-CV sighted east of Lunga (5/7)
-4-CV sighted east of Lunga (5/8)
-1-CV sighted north of Batavia (5/8)
Notable Base Captures:
-Wuchow [China] captured by the Allies (5/5)
-Soerabaja [Java] captured by Japan (5/8)
-San Jose [Philippines] captured by Japan (5/10)
Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 1,363 [+189] Biggest Losses (#): Dauntless (128), Buffalo (124), 139WH3 (83)
Japanese: 2,006 [+210] Biggest Losses (#): Betty (419), Zero (300), Val (184)
Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 232 [+13] Notables: CV Enterprise, CA Portland, CA Adelaide, CL Durban, CL Sumatra, CL Java
Japanese: 230 [+8] Notables: CV Kaga (or Junyo?), CVL Zuiho, CVE Taiyo, CVE Hosho, CA Mogami, CA Mikuma, CA Suzya, CA Adoba.
Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 7,288 [+460]
Japanese: 1,647 [+40]
A/J Ratio: 4.43 to 1
VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 14,892 [+727]
Japanese: 16,468 [+1,270]
A/J Ratio: 0.90 to 1
Other Notes:
-I am setting a little trap for the IJN @ Cox’s Bazaar. It seems every time I send a supply convoy there, the IJN sorties a small CC/DD force that attacks/sinks it while it is unloading. This time, I am sending a small convoy to Cox’s Bazaar, but I will also sortie my 2 British CVs, and lurk a few hexes to the north-west. A hunting we will go, a hunting we will go…
You say we're surrounded?
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Week 23: May 12th – May 18th 1942
North Pacific:
Base building continues at Adak. No IJN activity in the region.
Central Pacific:
Region is quiet.
Southern Pacific:
Region is quiet.
New Guinea/Solomons:
The battle for Milne Bay continues, with each side content to lob artillery shells at one another. Neither side is in a position to assault the opposing positions. The Allies outnumber the Japanese AV 85 to 60, but with the KB in the area, and daily air raids from Rabaul, the Allies cannot sneak a supply convoy through. Allied supplies have stabilized due to Operation Sustainment (sounds menacing doesn’t it?), in which all available transport and bomber airframes (37) in Australia have been conscripted to fly transport missions from the mainland to Milne Bay.
Speaking of the KB, it returns to the area this week near Lunga, and launches two large (80 bombers each) air raids that damage the airfield, damage 10 fighters on the ground, and sink a lone xAK unloading supplies. However the allies CAP and AA guns make them pay, as a total of 40 carrier bombers (along with their irreplaceable pilots) are lost during the two raids. At the end of the week, the KB is seen heading back towards Truk, and I take this opportunity to send a re-supply convoy (that was pacing back and forth in the Coral Sea) to Milne Bay.
Elsewhere, Koumac (on the north end of New Caledonia) is occupied and is turned into a PBY base, extending patrol coverage further into the Coral Sea.
DEI/Philippines:
In the Philippines, the Allied bases are isolated and low on supplies. The Cebu/Iioilo area is all that remains in Allied hands.
In the DEI, Java is firmly in Japanese hands and Sumatra will be very soon.
SE Asia/China:
My forces in Central Burma are still “advancing” back towards the safety of India, while the coastal city of Akyab readies for the approach of the Japanese.
At Cox’s Bazaar, my well-laid plan is foiled by weather. The IJN surface fleet was spotted by my carrier aircraft, but the hex had thunderstorms, and only one IJN ship (CS Chitose) was hit by a torpedo. On the bright side, the IJN force turned back before hitting my supply ship unloading @ Cox’a Bazaar. I’ll try to spring this trap again in the near future.
In China, I am still in defensive/supply conservation mode.
KB Watch:
-6-CV sighted north east of Lunga. (5/15)
-6-CV sighted South of Lunga (5/16)
-6-CV sighted east of Solomons near Otong Java (5/17)
-5-CV sighted North East of Shortlands heading towards Truk. (5/18)
Notable Base Captures:
-Loemadjamg [Java] captured by Japan (5/12)
-Myitkynia [Burma] captured by Japan (5/16)
Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 1,437 [+74] Biggest Losses (#): Dauntless (146), Buffalo (129), 139WH3 (83)
Japanese: 2,190 [+184] Biggest Losses (#): Betty (480), Zero (291), Kate (195)
Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 247 [+15] Notables: CV Enterprise, CA Portland, CA Adelaide, CL Durban, CL Sumatra, CL Java
Japanese: 237 [+7] Notables: CV Kaga (or Junyo?), CVL Zuiho, CVE Taiyo, CVE Hosho, CA Mogami, CA Mikuma, CA Suzya, CA Adoba.
Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 7,457 [+169]
Japanese: 1,657 [+10]
A/J Ratio: 4.5 to 1
VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 15,164 [+272]
Japanese: 16,891 [+423]
A/J Ratio: 0.90 to 1
Other Notes:
-The Prince of Wales becomes the latest victim of the IJN submarine fleet, as she is hit by two torpedoes while returning to Noumea. Damage crews saved her, but some extended shipyard time will be needed.
North Pacific:
Base building continues at Adak. No IJN activity in the region.
Central Pacific:
Region is quiet.
Southern Pacific:
Region is quiet.
New Guinea/Solomons:
The battle for Milne Bay continues, with each side content to lob artillery shells at one another. Neither side is in a position to assault the opposing positions. The Allies outnumber the Japanese AV 85 to 60, but with the KB in the area, and daily air raids from Rabaul, the Allies cannot sneak a supply convoy through. Allied supplies have stabilized due to Operation Sustainment (sounds menacing doesn’t it?), in which all available transport and bomber airframes (37) in Australia have been conscripted to fly transport missions from the mainland to Milne Bay.
Speaking of the KB, it returns to the area this week near Lunga, and launches two large (80 bombers each) air raids that damage the airfield, damage 10 fighters on the ground, and sink a lone xAK unloading supplies. However the allies CAP and AA guns make them pay, as a total of 40 carrier bombers (along with their irreplaceable pilots) are lost during the two raids. At the end of the week, the KB is seen heading back towards Truk, and I take this opportunity to send a re-supply convoy (that was pacing back and forth in the Coral Sea) to Milne Bay.
Elsewhere, Koumac (on the north end of New Caledonia) is occupied and is turned into a PBY base, extending patrol coverage further into the Coral Sea.
DEI/Philippines:
In the Philippines, the Allied bases are isolated and low on supplies. The Cebu/Iioilo area is all that remains in Allied hands.
In the DEI, Java is firmly in Japanese hands and Sumatra will be very soon.
SE Asia/China:
My forces in Central Burma are still “advancing” back towards the safety of India, while the coastal city of Akyab readies for the approach of the Japanese.
At Cox’s Bazaar, my well-laid plan is foiled by weather. The IJN surface fleet was spotted by my carrier aircraft, but the hex had thunderstorms, and only one IJN ship (CS Chitose) was hit by a torpedo. On the bright side, the IJN force turned back before hitting my supply ship unloading @ Cox’a Bazaar. I’ll try to spring this trap again in the near future.
In China, I am still in defensive/supply conservation mode.
KB Watch:
-6-CV sighted north east of Lunga. (5/15)
-6-CV sighted South of Lunga (5/16)
-6-CV sighted east of Solomons near Otong Java (5/17)
-5-CV sighted North East of Shortlands heading towards Truk. (5/18)
Notable Base Captures:
-Loemadjamg [Java] captured by Japan (5/12)
-Myitkynia [Burma] captured by Japan (5/16)
Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 1,437 [+74] Biggest Losses (#): Dauntless (146), Buffalo (129), 139WH3 (83)
Japanese: 2,190 [+184] Biggest Losses (#): Betty (480), Zero (291), Kate (195)
Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 247 [+15] Notables: CV Enterprise, CA Portland, CA Adelaide, CL Durban, CL Sumatra, CL Java
Japanese: 237 [+7] Notables: CV Kaga (or Junyo?), CVL Zuiho, CVE Taiyo, CVE Hosho, CA Mogami, CA Mikuma, CA Suzya, CA Adoba.
Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 7,457 [+169]
Japanese: 1,657 [+10]
A/J Ratio: 4.5 to 1
VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 15,164 [+272]
Japanese: 16,891 [+423]
A/J Ratio: 0.90 to 1
Other Notes:
-The Prince of Wales becomes the latest victim of the IJN submarine fleet, as she is hit by two torpedoes while returning to Noumea. Damage crews saved her, but some extended shipyard time will be needed.
You say we're surrounded?
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Week 24: May 19th – May 25th 1942
North Pacific:
A base force, a small garrison (58th Sep), and an AA unit are finally loaded and on their way to Amchitka. No IJN activity in the region.
Central Pacific:
Region is quiet.
Southern Pacific:
Region is quiet.
New Guinea/Solomons:
The Japanese look like they are going all in here in the SW Pacific. The entire KB plus other surface TF’s (that includes approx. 4 BB’s) patrolled the area and sank a few unlucky transports hauling supplies. The KB mostly stayed in the east, launching a few strikes on Lunga and supporting the amphibious invasions of Tulagi and Tassafronga. The other surface combatants focused on the Milne Bay and Rossel Island, foiling my attempts to resupply both islands by sea. In addition, they brought in land forces to Milne Bay and now there is AV parity there.
The air war is fierce, with Japan bombing Milne Bay, Rossel Island, and Port Moresby daily. My fighter CAP has done some damage, but escorting Zeroes have made an impact. I’ve already had to start cycling fighter squadrons off the front lines to refill their ranks. This is especially true for the Airacobra squadrons, who always get torn to pieces when confronting enemy fighter escorts. Their disappointing maneuverability ratings seem to be the culprit, but the good news is they only fly CAP, so I recover a large amount of the downed pilots.
My CV’s are huddled in Sydney trying to repair and re-arm. I have a modest surface presence (4 CA’s/12 DD’s) in the area, and they have been forced to move south due to lack of air cover. Milne Bay and Rossel Island are on their own for now.
Late in the week, BB’s escorting two large (12 ships each) surface TF’s are spotted west of Luganville headed SE towards New Caledonia. I recall a few half-strength Dauntless squadrons from Lunga and reposition my surface forces in preparation to defend Noumea. I have over 400 AV and about 100 fighters @ the base, so Noumea is relatively safe. However, I can’t say the same for Koumac or the numerous dot bases in the area. This could be a feint, but I must be ready nonetheless.
DEI/Philippines:
In the Philippines, the Allied bases are isolated and low on supplies. The Cebu/Iioilo area is all that remains in Allied hands, and each base in the area is on the receiving end of daily air raids.
In the DEI, Allied control in Sumatra is limited to the West coast. All remaining forces are withdrawing to Benkoelen to make one final stand.
SE Asia/China:
The withdrawal from central Burma continues. The immediate danger has passed, but units have not quite reached the bases in India yet.
Early in the week, Japan invades Port Blair and quickly captures the base. My british carrier forces near Cox’s Bazaar make a quick run to intervene. They don’t prevent the Japanese ground forces from unloading, but they do manage to sink 3 AK’s, damage 4 AK’s, and put a torpedo into BB Hyuga. The British carriers might have a small amount of aircraft, but they have teeth. Those Brit. torpedoes don’t have the high dud rate and they pack a punch. A single torp hit can cripple an AK, even if it doesn’t sink it outright.
On the other side of the Indian Ocean, the Japanese assault Diego Garcia. Luckily the base force there has a small combat element and has been able to hold off the invaders. I have an Indian regiment on its way to bolster my defenses. I can’t lose DG, as it guards my supply line from Cape Town, and the patrol aircraft stationed there have allowed my convoys to detour around IJN subs in the area.
In China, I am still in defensive/supply conservation mode.
KB Watch:
-2-CV sighted Near Tulagi. (5/20)
-2-CV sighted Near Tulagi. (5/21)
-1-CVL sighted near Milne Bay (5/21)
-3-CV sighted near Lunga (5/22)
-2-CV sighted south of New Britain. (5/22)
-6-CV sighted Near Lunga. (5/23)
-10-CV sighted Near Lunga. (5/24)
-8-CV sighted Near Lunga. (5/25)
Notable Base Captures:
-Sibloga [Sumatra] captured by Japan (5/19)
-Port Blair [SE Asia] captured by Japan (5/20)
-Tassafronga [Solomon Islands] captured by Japan (5/22)
-Tulagi [Solomon Islands] and Endeh [DEI] captured by Japan (5/25)
Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 1,518 [+81] Biggest Losses (#): Dauntless (158), Buffalo (129), Wildcat (87)
Japanese: 2,388 [+198] Biggest Losses (#): Betty (532), Zero (363), Val (317)
Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 260 [+13] Notables: CV Enterprise, CA Astoria, CA Portland, CA Adelaide, CL Durban, CL Sumatra, CL Java
Japanese: 250 [+13] Notables: CV Kaga (or Junyo?), CVL Zuiho, CVE Taiyo, CVE Hosho, CA Mogami, CA Mikuma, CA Suzya, CA Adoba.
Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 7,548 [+91]
Japanese: 1,680 [+23]
A/J Ratio: 4.5 to 1
VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 15,525 [+361]
Japanese: 17,174 [+283]
A/J Ratio: 0.90 to 1
Other Notes:
-IJN subs are still a thorn in my side in the South Pacific. This week CA Astoria was hit halfway between Noumea and Milne Bay. The first hit only damaged the Astoria, but her engines were slowed enough to allow the IJN sub to continue to stalk its prey, and the following day it put two more torps into Astoria. Amazingly, the cruiser stayed afloat, but the valiant effort was all for naught, as another attack by the same sub the following day finished her.
North Pacific:
A base force, a small garrison (58th Sep), and an AA unit are finally loaded and on their way to Amchitka. No IJN activity in the region.
Central Pacific:
Region is quiet.
Southern Pacific:
Region is quiet.
New Guinea/Solomons:
The Japanese look like they are going all in here in the SW Pacific. The entire KB plus other surface TF’s (that includes approx. 4 BB’s) patrolled the area and sank a few unlucky transports hauling supplies. The KB mostly stayed in the east, launching a few strikes on Lunga and supporting the amphibious invasions of Tulagi and Tassafronga. The other surface combatants focused on the Milne Bay and Rossel Island, foiling my attempts to resupply both islands by sea. In addition, they brought in land forces to Milne Bay and now there is AV parity there.
The air war is fierce, with Japan bombing Milne Bay, Rossel Island, and Port Moresby daily. My fighter CAP has done some damage, but escorting Zeroes have made an impact. I’ve already had to start cycling fighter squadrons off the front lines to refill their ranks. This is especially true for the Airacobra squadrons, who always get torn to pieces when confronting enemy fighter escorts. Their disappointing maneuverability ratings seem to be the culprit, but the good news is they only fly CAP, so I recover a large amount of the downed pilots.
My CV’s are huddled in Sydney trying to repair and re-arm. I have a modest surface presence (4 CA’s/12 DD’s) in the area, and they have been forced to move south due to lack of air cover. Milne Bay and Rossel Island are on their own for now.
Late in the week, BB’s escorting two large (12 ships each) surface TF’s are spotted west of Luganville headed SE towards New Caledonia. I recall a few half-strength Dauntless squadrons from Lunga and reposition my surface forces in preparation to defend Noumea. I have over 400 AV and about 100 fighters @ the base, so Noumea is relatively safe. However, I can’t say the same for Koumac or the numerous dot bases in the area. This could be a feint, but I must be ready nonetheless.
DEI/Philippines:
In the Philippines, the Allied bases are isolated and low on supplies. The Cebu/Iioilo area is all that remains in Allied hands, and each base in the area is on the receiving end of daily air raids.
In the DEI, Allied control in Sumatra is limited to the West coast. All remaining forces are withdrawing to Benkoelen to make one final stand.
SE Asia/China:
The withdrawal from central Burma continues. The immediate danger has passed, but units have not quite reached the bases in India yet.
Early in the week, Japan invades Port Blair and quickly captures the base. My british carrier forces near Cox’s Bazaar make a quick run to intervene. They don’t prevent the Japanese ground forces from unloading, but they do manage to sink 3 AK’s, damage 4 AK’s, and put a torpedo into BB Hyuga. The British carriers might have a small amount of aircraft, but they have teeth. Those Brit. torpedoes don’t have the high dud rate and they pack a punch. A single torp hit can cripple an AK, even if it doesn’t sink it outright.
On the other side of the Indian Ocean, the Japanese assault Diego Garcia. Luckily the base force there has a small combat element and has been able to hold off the invaders. I have an Indian regiment on its way to bolster my defenses. I can’t lose DG, as it guards my supply line from Cape Town, and the patrol aircraft stationed there have allowed my convoys to detour around IJN subs in the area.
In China, I am still in defensive/supply conservation mode.
KB Watch:
-2-CV sighted Near Tulagi. (5/20)
-2-CV sighted Near Tulagi. (5/21)
-1-CVL sighted near Milne Bay (5/21)
-3-CV sighted near Lunga (5/22)
-2-CV sighted south of New Britain. (5/22)
-6-CV sighted Near Lunga. (5/23)
-10-CV sighted Near Lunga. (5/24)
-8-CV sighted Near Lunga. (5/25)
Notable Base Captures:
-Sibloga [Sumatra] captured by Japan (5/19)
-Port Blair [SE Asia] captured by Japan (5/20)
-Tassafronga [Solomon Islands] captured by Japan (5/22)
-Tulagi [Solomon Islands] and Endeh [DEI] captured by Japan (5/25)
Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 1,518 [+81] Biggest Losses (#): Dauntless (158), Buffalo (129), Wildcat (87)
Japanese: 2,388 [+198] Biggest Losses (#): Betty (532), Zero (363), Val (317)
Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 260 [+13] Notables: CV Enterprise, CA Astoria, CA Portland, CA Adelaide, CL Durban, CL Sumatra, CL Java
Japanese: 250 [+13] Notables: CV Kaga (or Junyo?), CVL Zuiho, CVE Taiyo, CVE Hosho, CA Mogami, CA Mikuma, CA Suzya, CA Adoba.
Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 7,548 [+91]
Japanese: 1,680 [+23]
A/J Ratio: 4.5 to 1
VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 15,525 [+361]
Japanese: 17,174 [+283]
A/J Ratio: 0.90 to 1
Other Notes:
-IJN subs are still a thorn in my side in the South Pacific. This week CA Astoria was hit halfway between Noumea and Milne Bay. The first hit only damaged the Astoria, but her engines were slowed enough to allow the IJN sub to continue to stalk its prey, and the following day it put two more torps into Astoria. Amazingly, the cruiser stayed afloat, but the valiant effort was all for naught, as another attack by the same sub the following day finished her.
You say we're surrounded?
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That means we can attack in any direction.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Situation Report - June 1st, 1942
Base Status:
Adak:
Port Size: 5.97 (+1.13)
Airfield Size: 5.20 (+0.95)
Supplies: 35K (37 Weeks of normal operations)
Akyab:
Port Size: 2.27 (+0.45)
Airfield Size: 5.06 (+0.90)
Supplies: 7K (2 Weeks of normal operations)
Baker Island: Port Size: 2.62 (+0.31)
Airfield Size: 1.21 (+0.04)
Supplies: 21K (47 Weeks of normal operations)
Johnston Is.:
Port Size: 1.88 (+0.18)
Airfield Size: 2.06 (+0.01)
Supplies: 14K (25 Weeks of normal operations)
Luganville:
Port Size: 4.29 (+0.26)
Airfield Size: 5.29 (+0.64)
Supplies: 23K (45 Weeks of normal operations)
Lunga:
Port Size: 2.91 (+0.51)
Airfield Size: 5.30 (+0.98)
Supplies: 25K (11 Weeks of normal operations)
Midway:
Port Size: 2.38 (+0.15)
Airfield Size: 4.00 (+0.00)
Supplies: 16K (10 Weeks of normal operations)
Pago-Pago:
Port Size: 2.00 (+0.00)
Airfield Size: 4.71 (+0.41)
Supplies: 6K (11 Weeks of normal operations)
Port Moresby:
Port Size: 3.29 (+0.19)
Airfield Size: 5.82 (+0.52)
Supplies: 58K (20 Weeks of normal operations)
Base Status:
Adak:
Port Size: 5.97 (+1.13)
Airfield Size: 5.20 (+0.95)
Supplies: 35K (37 Weeks of normal operations)
Akyab:
Port Size: 2.27 (+0.45)
Airfield Size: 5.06 (+0.90)
Supplies: 7K (2 Weeks of normal operations)
Baker Island: Port Size: 2.62 (+0.31)
Airfield Size: 1.21 (+0.04)
Supplies: 21K (47 Weeks of normal operations)
Johnston Is.:
Port Size: 1.88 (+0.18)
Airfield Size: 2.06 (+0.01)
Supplies: 14K (25 Weeks of normal operations)
Luganville:
Port Size: 4.29 (+0.26)
Airfield Size: 5.29 (+0.64)
Supplies: 23K (45 Weeks of normal operations)
Lunga:
Port Size: 2.91 (+0.51)
Airfield Size: 5.30 (+0.98)
Supplies: 25K (11 Weeks of normal operations)
Midway:
Port Size: 2.38 (+0.15)
Airfield Size: 4.00 (+0.00)
Supplies: 16K (10 Weeks of normal operations)
Pago-Pago:
Port Size: 2.00 (+0.00)
Airfield Size: 4.71 (+0.41)
Supplies: 6K (11 Weeks of normal operations)
Port Moresby:
Port Size: 3.29 (+0.19)
Airfield Size: 5.82 (+0.52)
Supplies: 58K (20 Weeks of normal operations)
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Situation Report [Continued] - June 1st, 1942
Central Pacific:
Surface Forces: 10-BB, 11-CA, 30+-DD (@Pearl Harbor)
Fuel Reserves: 216K @ Pearl Harbor
New Guinea/Solomons:
Surface Forces: 5-CV , 1-CVL, 1-BB, 11-CA, 16-DD (@Noumea)
Fuel Reserves: 209K @ Noumea
15K @ Port Moresby
14K @ Sydney
Central Pacific:
Surface Forces: 10-BB, 11-CA, 30+-DD (@Pearl Harbor)
Fuel Reserves: 216K @ Pearl Harbor
New Guinea/Solomons:
Surface Forces: 5-CV , 1-CVL, 1-BB, 11-CA, 16-DD (@Noumea)
Fuel Reserves: 209K @ Noumea
15K @ Port Moresby
14K @ Sydney
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Situation Report [Continued] - June 1st, 1942
SE Asia/China
Surface Forces: 3-CV , 2-BB, 9-CA, 6-DD (@Colombo)
Fuel Reserves: 308K @ Colombo
SE Asia/China
Surface Forces: 3-CV , 2-BB, 9-CA, 6-DD (@Colombo)
Fuel Reserves: 308K @ Colombo
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RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Week 25: May 26th – June 2nd 1942
North Pacific:
Base Force reaches Amchitka and begins construction of an airfield. No IJN activity in the region.
Central Pacific:
Region is quiet.
Southern Pacific:
Region is quiet.
New Guinea/Solomons:
The Japanese keep ratcheting up the pressure in the SW Pacific. This week a Japanese CV TF, and SC TF and a couple transport TFs (totaling 25 ships) rounded the horn at Milne Bay and assaulted Port Moresby by sea. From the first battle report, it looks like they dropped off the 66th Infantry Group (~200 AV). At Port Moresby, I have over 450 AV, and that includes an Australian Calvary Regiment. After a day of fighting, the Japanese must have realized that they underestimated my garrison, because they packed up and left just as quickly as they arrived. I have fighter coverage in the area, but no Dive bombers or surface forces, so I couldn’t strike at the retreating transports. Later in the week, Intel reports that 4 more IJA infantry regiments began planning for Port Moresby….sounds like they may be back. Hornet and Saratoga are just completing repairs @ Sydney, so next time I’ll be able to give the IJN transports a proper reception.
Farther south, the IJN TFs that were spotted heading towards Noumea, turned out to be landing barges and Patrol boats. Not sure what they were doing, but after an allied CA/DD sunk about half of them, the rest tucked tail and headed for Rabaul. I attempted to press home my attack, but the IJN had two powerful surface TFs in the area, one of which had two BBs. Both TFs were probing the area E/NE of Noumea, darting back and forth looking for prey. I detoured all cargo ship traffic to the south to avoid the new threat. My precious few SBD Dauntlesses stationed @ Noumea struck at the TFs, but failed to score any hits.
However, near Lunga, a separate Dauntless squadron has had a field day hitting transports supplying the new Japanese bases at Tassafronga and Tulagi, a target-rich environment. Too many targets, not enough DBs…not a bad problem to have.
DEI/Philippines:
In the Philippines, the Allied bases are isolated and low on supplies. Cebu is that last Allied controlled base in the Phillippines. Japanese airstrikes have intensified @ Cebu…possibly signaling an invasion…or possibly because the Japanese have nothing else to bomb in the region.
In the DEI, Allied control in Sumatra is limited to the West coast. All remaining forces are withdrawing to Benkoelen to make one final stand.
SE Asia/China:
The withdrawal from central Burma continues. The immediate danger has passed, but units have not quite reached the bases in India yet.
My Indian reinforcements (5/14th Punjab) land at Diego Garcia…and just in time, as the Japanese launch their first shock attack the following day. Losses were even (about 200 casualties per side), and the rest of the week, the Japanese went back to bombarding.
In China, I am still in defensive/supply conservation mode.
KB Watch:
-1-CVL South of Port Moresby. (5/26 thru 5/29)
Notable Base Captures:
-Ruteng [DEI] captured by Japan (5/27)
-Bacolod [Philippines] captured by Japan (5/28)
-Iioilo [Philippines] captured by Japan (5/29)
-Sinabang [Sumatra] captured by Japan (5/31)
Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 1,552 [+34]
Biggest Losses (#): Dauntless (162), Buffalo (129), Wildcat (87)
Japanese: 2,487 [+99]
Biggest Losses (#): Betty (559), Zero (407), Kate (276)
Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 268 [+8]
Notables: CV Enterprise, CA Astoria, CA Portland, CA Adelaide, CL Durban, CL Sumatra, CL Java
Japanese: 264 [+14]
Notables: CV Kaga (or Junyo?), CVL Zuiho, CVE Taiyo, CVE Hosho, CA Mogami, CA Mikuma, CA Suzya, CA Adoba.
Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 7,718 [+170]
Japanese: 1,717 [+37]
A/J Ratio: 4.50 to 1
VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 15,918 [+393]
Japanese: 17,584 [+410]
A/J Ratio: 0.91 to 1
Other Notes:
-With all the fuel heading to the frontline in the SW Pacific, fuel reserves at Pearl Harbor have begun to dwindle to 216K (was 520K in March). To stabilize the situation, I have re-appropriated some AK’s from supply to fuel transport role (I probably should have been doing this earlier), and setting them up in CS convoys from LA to Pearl.
-In the sub war, I finally took the time to manually set all my sub patrols. Up to this point, I was content letting the computer set most of my patrols, but then I noticed it was sending too many to backwater areas (like the southern coast of New Zealand). So I re-evaluated my sub patrols (again, probably should have done this earlier), focusing on areas of highest probable IJN ship traffic, and making sure to stay in deep water.
-One interesting trend: In the last week, I have seen 3 different IJN subs attack my ASW TF’s….and two of the attacks were successful. Normally they shy away from my destroyers…must be some pretty aggressive sub captains.
North Pacific:
Base Force reaches Amchitka and begins construction of an airfield. No IJN activity in the region.
Central Pacific:
Region is quiet.
Southern Pacific:
Region is quiet.
New Guinea/Solomons:
The Japanese keep ratcheting up the pressure in the SW Pacific. This week a Japanese CV TF, and SC TF and a couple transport TFs (totaling 25 ships) rounded the horn at Milne Bay and assaulted Port Moresby by sea. From the first battle report, it looks like they dropped off the 66th Infantry Group (~200 AV). At Port Moresby, I have over 450 AV, and that includes an Australian Calvary Regiment. After a day of fighting, the Japanese must have realized that they underestimated my garrison, because they packed up and left just as quickly as they arrived. I have fighter coverage in the area, but no Dive bombers or surface forces, so I couldn’t strike at the retreating transports. Later in the week, Intel reports that 4 more IJA infantry regiments began planning for Port Moresby….sounds like they may be back. Hornet and Saratoga are just completing repairs @ Sydney, so next time I’ll be able to give the IJN transports a proper reception.
Farther south, the IJN TFs that were spotted heading towards Noumea, turned out to be landing barges and Patrol boats. Not sure what they were doing, but after an allied CA/DD sunk about half of them, the rest tucked tail and headed for Rabaul. I attempted to press home my attack, but the IJN had two powerful surface TFs in the area, one of which had two BBs. Both TFs were probing the area E/NE of Noumea, darting back and forth looking for prey. I detoured all cargo ship traffic to the south to avoid the new threat. My precious few SBD Dauntlesses stationed @ Noumea struck at the TFs, but failed to score any hits.
However, near Lunga, a separate Dauntless squadron has had a field day hitting transports supplying the new Japanese bases at Tassafronga and Tulagi, a target-rich environment. Too many targets, not enough DBs…not a bad problem to have.
DEI/Philippines:
In the Philippines, the Allied bases are isolated and low on supplies. Cebu is that last Allied controlled base in the Phillippines. Japanese airstrikes have intensified @ Cebu…possibly signaling an invasion…or possibly because the Japanese have nothing else to bomb in the region.
In the DEI, Allied control in Sumatra is limited to the West coast. All remaining forces are withdrawing to Benkoelen to make one final stand.
SE Asia/China:
The withdrawal from central Burma continues. The immediate danger has passed, but units have not quite reached the bases in India yet.
My Indian reinforcements (5/14th Punjab) land at Diego Garcia…and just in time, as the Japanese launch their first shock attack the following day. Losses were even (about 200 casualties per side), and the rest of the week, the Japanese went back to bombarding.
In China, I am still in defensive/supply conservation mode.
KB Watch:
-1-CVL South of Port Moresby. (5/26 thru 5/29)
Notable Base Captures:
-Ruteng [DEI] captured by Japan (5/27)
-Bacolod [Philippines] captured by Japan (5/28)
-Iioilo [Philippines] captured by Japan (5/29)
-Sinabang [Sumatra] captured by Japan (5/31)
Campaign Overview:
Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 1,552 [+34]
Biggest Losses (#): Dauntless (162), Buffalo (129), Wildcat (87)
Japanese: 2,487 [+99]
Biggest Losses (#): Betty (559), Zero (407), Kate (276)
Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 268 [+8]
Notables: CV Enterprise, CA Astoria, CA Portland, CA Adelaide, CL Durban, CL Sumatra, CL Java
Japanese: 264 [+14]
Notables: CV Kaga (or Junyo?), CVL Zuiho, CVE Taiyo, CVE Hosho, CA Mogami, CA Mikuma, CA Suzya, CA Adoba.
Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 7,718 [+170]
Japanese: 1,717 [+37]
A/J Ratio: 4.50 to 1
VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 15,918 [+393]
Japanese: 17,584 [+410]
A/J Ratio: 0.91 to 1
Other Notes:
-With all the fuel heading to the frontline in the SW Pacific, fuel reserves at Pearl Harbor have begun to dwindle to 216K (was 520K in March). To stabilize the situation, I have re-appropriated some AK’s from supply to fuel transport role (I probably should have been doing this earlier), and setting them up in CS convoys from LA to Pearl.
-In the sub war, I finally took the time to manually set all my sub patrols. Up to this point, I was content letting the computer set most of my patrols, but then I noticed it was sending too many to backwater areas (like the southern coast of New Zealand). So I re-evaluated my sub patrols (again, probably should have done this earlier), focusing on areas of highest probable IJN ship traffic, and making sure to stay in deep water.
-One interesting trend: In the last week, I have seen 3 different IJN subs attack my ASW TF’s….and two of the attacks were successful. Normally they shy away from my destroyers…must be some pretty aggressive sub captains.
You say we're surrounded?
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Schlussel: Later in the week, Intel reports that 4 more IJA infantry regiments began planning for Port Moresby….sounds like they may be back. Hornet and Saratoga are just completing repairs @ Sydney, so next time I’ll be able to give the IJN transports a proper reception.
This is typical AI behaviour - PM is on the target list for the script it is using so it must keep trying until it takes it. If you demolish the next attempt to bring in troops it will likely try again with an even bigger force.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
just finished reading your AAR...well done...im gonna steal some of your ideas for my own starting soon...in the meantime...go get those Japs!
"Remember. This is a military operation. They NEVER go according to plan." ---Gen. Beck to Col. Stauffenberg (VALKYRIE)
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Schlussel: Later in the week, Intel reports that 4 more IJA infantry regiments began planning for Port Moresby….sounds like they may be back. Hornet and Saratoga are just completing repairs @ Sydney, so next time I’ll be able to give the IJN transports a proper reception.
This is typical AI behaviour - PM is on the target list for the script it is using so it must keep trying until it takes it. If you demolish the next attempt to bring in troops it will likely try again with an even bigger force.
Yikes! that's what I'm afraid of. [:D]
ORIGINAL: rjl518
just finished reading your AAR...well done...im gonna steal some of your ideas for my own starting soon...in the meantime...go get those Japs!
Welcome to the thread rjl518! I appreciate your interest in my AAR and the kind words. Like they say "Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery." Looking forward to reading your upcoming AAR so I can do some flattering of my own. haha.
You say we're surrounded?
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Schlussel you almost got me interested to start a new game. I have been waiting for new scens as Andy was apparently reworking them, but the thread seems silent for a while. Thus far AI has given you a good impression of itself, at least if you ignore the air losses it has suffered.
But here is the thing that keeps me waiting, since I have seen that in all my previous games, unfortunately, just at different locations for different sides. IJN at PM, Allies at Nomuea, Suva, Christmas, Ceylon,... I would expect AI will do the same for you at PM: Come piecemeal with small TFs, 1-2 light escorts with a pair of (loaded) xAK or xAKL, a small CA/L TF now and then... drop off the few loaded troops to evac them right after again, all the while suffering grievous losses (unless you stop at anti shipping activities and leave PM to AI). The AI will not pause to assemble a major force, as a human player would. Or even cancel the hopeless operation. If AI got the target in the script, either an offensive or a defensive/retake one, it won't stop until the target based changes owner, or the script reaches end date.
Check out the scrips Andy wrote to learn how the logic of his linked scripting works, and you can get more out of an AI game by avoiding its weaknesses. My suggestion is the same that many other AI suggested in many threads: to let AI have PM, especially if you wish an interesting game that will well exceed 43... Curious how this will work out, though. Might make me start another GC finally.
ORIGINAL: rjl518
just finished reading your AAR...well done...im gonna steal some of your ideas for my own starting soon...in the meantime...go get those Japs!
But here is the thing that keeps me waiting, since I have seen that in all my previous games, unfortunately, just at different locations for different sides. IJN at PM, Allies at Nomuea, Suva, Christmas, Ceylon,... I would expect AI will do the same for you at PM: Come piecemeal with small TFs, 1-2 light escorts with a pair of (loaded) xAK or xAKL, a small CA/L TF now and then... drop off the few loaded troops to evac them right after again, all the while suffering grievous losses (unless you stop at anti shipping activities and leave PM to AI). The AI will not pause to assemble a major force, as a human player would. Or even cancel the hopeless operation. If AI got the target in the script, either an offensive or a defensive/retake one, it won't stop until the target based changes owner, or the script reaches end date.
Check out the scrips Andy wrote to learn how the logic of his linked scripting works, and you can get more out of an AI game by avoiding its weaknesses. My suggestion is the same that many other AI suggested in many threads: to let AI have PM, especially if you wish an interesting game that will well exceed 43... Curious how this will work out, though. Might make me start another GC finally.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Welcome to the thread janh! Thanks for following and commenting.ORIGINAL: janh
Schlussel you almost got me interested to start a new game. I have been waiting for new scens as Andy was apparently reworking them, but the thread seems silent for a while. Thus far AI has given you a good impression of itself, at least if you ignore the air losses it has suffered.
ORIGINAL: rjl518
just finished reading your AAR...well done...im gonna steal some of your ideas for my own starting soon...in the meantime...go get those Japs!
But here is the thing that keeps me waiting, since I have seen that in all my previous games, unfortunately, just at different locations for different sides. IJN at PM, Allies at Nomuea, Suva, Christmas, Ceylon,... I would expect AI will do the same for you at PM: Come piecemeal with small TFs, 1-2 light escorts with a pair of (loaded) xAK or xAKL, a small CA/L TF now and then... drop off the few loaded troops to evac them right after again, all the while suffering grievous losses (unless you stop at anti shipping activities and leave PM to AI). The AI will not pause to assemble a major force, as a human player would. Or even cancel the hopeless operation. If AI got the target in the script, either an offensive or a defensive/retake one, it won't stop until the target based changes owner, or the script reaches end date.
Check out the scrips Andy wrote to learn how the logic of his linked scripting works, and you can get more out of an AI game by avoiding its weaknesses. My suggestion is the same that many other AI suggested in many threads: to let AI have PM, especially if you wish an interesting game that will well exceed 43... Curious how this will work out, though. Might make me start another GC finally.
Yes the AI is really putting up a good fight. I am playing on the hard difficulty, but that just gives the AI some supply advantages. Even so, I have had to refrain from some ahistorical moves that would prevent the AI from reaching most of its goals in the DEI and South Pacific.
So far the only instance I have noticed the "piecemeal attack"s is at Baker Island, where on 3 or 4 occasions, the AI has sent a pair of AKs. Each time they drop off a small land unit, it bombards for a few turns, realizes it is hopelessly outnumbered, then loads backup in the AK's and retreats. In this case, I let the Japanese ships do their thing without striking at them with my carrier forces. After a bit, they AI stops coming (its been a month since they've attacked Baker), and like you mentioned, I'm assuming it's because the script ran out.
This will also be my plan at PM. However, as you have seen, they haven't come in piecemeal yet. The last attack had a large amphib TF supported by a 10 ship Surface TF and a CV.
I checked out those threads on Andy's AI scripts, and they were very informative, thanks for the suggestion. The AI is great, but like many have said, it's still an AI and cannot react as dynamically as a human due to limitations of the software. Andy has done a great job with what he had to work with.
My plan is to eventually try a PBEM with one of the smaller scenarios, but for now I am thoroughly enjoying battling the AI.
If you take the plunge into a GC game, I wish you luck!
You say we're surrounded?
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
Actually for a stock scenario like this, "Hard" difficulty puts the AI on equal footing with a player. At any difficulty setting below, the AI is at a serious disadvantage to the human player.ORIGINAL: Schlussel
I am playing on the hard difficulty, but that just gives the AI some supply advantages.
For game balance, you will want to move to VERY HARD for 3 - 5 days every 2 weeks to keep the AI in the game, particularly as you are playing the allies. Else the AI will fall apart about mid-42.
Pax
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
Actually for a stock scenario like this, "Hard" difficulty puts the AI on equal footing with a player. At any difficulty setting below, the AI is at a serious disadvantage to the human player.
For game balance, you will want to move to VERY HARD for 3 - 5 days every 2 weeks to keep the AI in the game, particularly as you are playing the allies. Else the AI will fall apart about mid-42.
Really? I didn't know that, I always thought VERY HARD gave the computer important combat advantages....and I already give it lots of advantages by being a noob and making noob mistakes.[:)] In the interest of a good fight, I will do what you suggested, I'll just make sure I move to VERY HARD on days I don't have a big CV battle or amphib invasion occurring. [:D]
Thanks for the info Pax!
You say we're surrounded?
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.
RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
VERY hard does give the AI advantages, most relevant here is the additional supply. That's the key. The AI can't move supply around to islands, VH allows extra supply to get to isolated areas and keep the AI troops viable.ORIGINAL: Schlussel
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
Actually for a stock scenario like this, "Hard" difficulty puts the AI on equal footing with a player. At any difficulty setting below, the AI is at a serious disadvantage to the human player.
For game balance, you will want to move to VERY HARD for 3 - 5 days every 2 weeks to keep the AI in the game, particularly as you are playing the allies. Else the AI will fall apart about mid-42.
Really? I didn't know that, I always thought VERY HARD gave the computer important combat advantages....and I already give it lots of advantages by being a noob and making noob mistakes.[:)] In the interest of a good fight, I will do what you suggested, I'll just make sure I move to VERY HARD on days I don't have a big CV battle or amphib invasion occurring. [:D]
Thanks for the info Pax!
That's why at NORMAL the AI falls apart in a few months. Island garrisons starve, it's offensive jump off points starve, etc. VERY hard allows it to keep working.
Pax
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RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Schlussel: Later in the week, Intel reports that 4 more IJA infantry regiments began planning for Port Moresby….sounds like they may be back. Hornet and Saratoga are just completing repairs @ Sydney, so next time I’ll be able to give the IJN transports a proper reception.
This is typical AI behaviour - PM is on the target list for the script it is using so it must keep trying until it takes it. If you demolish the next attempt to bring in troops it will likely try again with an even bigger force.
Unfortunately this tends to break the AI. It can be a long time before it gets its act together for another try.
It also will often continue sending in follow on forces such as bases and engineers, not realizing the initial invasion failed.
There is also no guarantee that the next attempt will take into account the size of defending force discovered in the first attempt and will often continue attempting to take the base with inadequate forces.\
Once you prevent the AI form taking something, you can't expect it to react dynamically like a player would.
Its going to continue following its scripts.
In my current Focus Pacific game the AI has made six attempts at Canton, never bringing more than two carriers and never succeeding in getting through my naval screen.
Hans