Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam)

[morvael]

Ah, the good old days of clear weather. How I miss them now...

[chaos45]

Ya I like my sappers and extra artillery regiments in all army HQs. A couple SUs being sent to support a battle can be the difference between a win or a loss. Esp when stationary HQs with decent commanders often send 4 or SUs to support a defense/attack.

Plus to me the earlier you build all these units the quicker they rack up exp/morale and allow for better units to assist in the first winter. Also SUs dont get destroyed in encirclements if they are in Army HQs just take some losses.

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: chaos45

Ya I like my sappers and extra artillery regiments in all army HQs. A couple SUs being sent to support a battle can be the difference between a win or a loss. Esp when stationary HQs with decent commanders often send 4 or SUs to support a defense/attack.

Plus to me the earlier you build all these units the quicker they rack up exp/morale and allow for better units to assist in the first winter. Also SUs dont get destroyed in encirclements if they are in Army HQs just take some losses.

That's all very true, but if they get pocketed its a major blow- that can not be recovered from.

Its balancing act most players don't take the chance of doing, they generally play it
safe so they can take more loses and still recover.

That big pocket can be recovered from as its mostly junk and cost no AP other then a few units.

As long as Russia holds Moscow all is good for 41. He is not in great shape but its not a disaster yet, your loses in our game were not much smaller then that pocket and you were fine.

[folgra]

This is really interesting.

[cpt flam]

time for some news
Turn 13 or september 11.1941
the last defenders of Leningrad continue the fight

[cpt flam]

in the center
Huns got a lot of ground of a rush
trying to recover a front[&o]

[cpt flam]

and in the south
my nightmare continue
Fedyuninsky has been promoted Général-Leitenant, he command 5Army (actually isolated)
3 more rifle div became Guards
Kharkov must hold !

[morvael]

My panzers reached Borodino quite close to the anniversary of the 1812 battle. As can be seen speed of advance across Russia was similar to the one from 129 years earlier, despite thousands of trucks, APCs and AFVs.

The Kharkov strike was a failure. Only a weak motorized division reached the city with full (or most of) ARM factory. But it didn't held against Soviet counterattack and when I locked the city properly on next turn there was just 4 or 5 ARM remaining.

[Peltonx]

Moscow looks safe as long as you hold the flanks.

Hows your OOB look cpt flame?

[morvael]

ORIGINAL: Pelton

Moscow looks safe as long as you hold the flanks.

Ignore the flanks. This is "Operation Jab".

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: morvael

ORIGINAL: Pelton

Moscow looks safe as long as you hold the flanks.

Ignore the flanks. This is "Operation Jab".

My past jabs/spear thrusts end in broken spears.

Good luck

[morvael]

As you can see from the map the only real fort line was between Rzhev and Vyazma, and it is already broken. Beyond are just level 1 forts with large gaps between them. Screenshots from turn before show that Moscow defensive lines were not in place as of week ago.

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: morvael

As you can see from the map the only real fort line was between Rzhev and Vyazma, and it is already broken. Beyond are just level 1 forts with large gaps between them. Screenshots from turn before show that Moscow defensive lines were not in place as of week ago.

Then you might be able to drive home your thrust good luck to you both.

[cpt flam]

Turn 14 or September 18, 1941
germans arrived at the gates of Moscow
Staline is on the move
the fall of the city will hurt production and railways

[cpt flam]

in the south Kharkov is threatened
only 5 ARM factories inside
Mikhail Lukin ( 16 Army) got promoted Général-Polkovnik

[cpt flam]

3 rifle divisions are awarded Guard title (eight now) and few assets
I get my first GShAP (équiped with Su 2)
here is OOB this turn, so after loss of pocketted units

[morvael]

Manstein's speartip Motorized Division managed to destroy Li-2 factory in Khimki. This will hurt the Soviets in later phases of the war, they will have to wait until C-47 arrive from lend-lease in 1943 to have some long range transports. And their overall transport capacity will be low, so no good air resupply for tank corps in 1944-45 (which in our previous PBEM helped me a lot to get into Berlin before end of March).

[cpt flam]

Turn 15 or september25 ,1941
news from the front
each week see a disaster [:(]
Moscow has been surrounded after a lot of fighting

[cpt flam]

and to make thing worst Kharkov fall too
all this will be hard to recover
summer is not finished yet

[cpt flam]

finishing for this turn actual losses
Vasily Glazunov (3 para corp) has been promoted général-leitenant
a new rifle division become Guard
next time i will show part of production screen