Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock
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RE: Disaster!
Well, taking Shikoku opened up the western half of Honshu to aerial destruction and sweeps. Shikoku has an invasion beach without rail connections.
If the Allies would have moved fast, and focused their bombing on my troops in the open, then he could have cut Honshu in half. Unfortunately for him, I moved faster and stopped the invasion in x3 terrain. Matsumaya then held, and now he has reinforced there, but it still holds.
I have no clue why he invaded Honshu directly, if fact I had just prior come to the conclusion he had no plans on invading Honshu proper (and was terrified of a Chinese landing) and then moved on to Osaka and Nagoya some of the best terrain in the game for me to fight in.
If you read NJP/Wargamer, their first finished game, the Allies just roll across Honshu and the game ends in late Jan 1945 with AV and almost no strategic victory points...here the Allies have 40,000+. I bet he was expecting that outcome.
I think he has to be somewhat frustrated. I know he was surprised the game made it to 1944.
If the Allies would have moved fast, and focused their bombing on my troops in the open, then he could have cut Honshu in half. Unfortunately for him, I moved faster and stopped the invasion in x3 terrain. Matsumaya then held, and now he has reinforced there, but it still holds.
I have no clue why he invaded Honshu directly, if fact I had just prior come to the conclusion he had no plans on invading Honshu proper (and was terrified of a Chinese landing) and then moved on to Osaka and Nagoya some of the best terrain in the game for me to fight in.
If you read NJP/Wargamer, their first finished game, the Allies just roll across Honshu and the game ends in late Jan 1945 with AV and almost no strategic victory points...here the Allies have 40,000+. I bet he was expecting that outcome.
I think he has to be somewhat frustrated. I know he was surprised the game made it to 1944.
RE: Disaster!
Lok, here you go a freshly arriving unit with 100 prep.


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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock
I figure I might be able to penetrate that CAP over the British carrier and will try with a Sentai of Judies and also a Sentai of Helen Kamikazes from another base. Also set some Lilly divebombers up for anti-destroyer flights.
We shall see what happens.
Will the Allies attack again at Nagoya, or will they hold off and content themselves with bombing it back into the dark ages for a few more days.
We shall see what happens.
Will the Allies attack again at Nagoya, or will they hold off and content themselves with bombing it back into the dark ages for a few more days.
RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock
July 5th, 1944
The Allies move the British carrier and Renown just off shore Ternate, and we fly three strikes against him, only one escorted.
All kamikaze misses...the escorting Oscars do ok, sweeping ahead again. Allied flak is a really a killer...and it is still early yet!

The Allies move the British carrier and Renown just off shore Ternate, and we fly three strikes against him, only one escorted.
All kamikaze misses...the escorting Oscars do ok, sweeping ahead again. Allied flak is a really a killer...and it is still early yet!

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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock
No attacks, but the bombardment on Nagoya is really tough, 1600 losses. Ouch. I should lay some type 88 mines there tomorrow, but I suspect my Iboat will take it on the chin.
Deathstar still prowling around, I wish it would go away as I have some DP guns headed for Shanghai and upriver. Speaking of the river, the town where the Tone is reconned, 9 DL, so she will have to move again.

Deathstar still prowling around, I wish it would go away as I have some DP guns headed for Shanghai and upriver. Speaking of the river, the town where the Tone is reconned, 9 DL, so she will have to move again.

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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock
Wakayama is attacked, south of Osaka by Canadians, Phillipinos and Yanks about a division worth. We held, but I suspect he will wear me down eventually, unless I reinforce.
Which I might do with troops from Osaka...which the Allies have pulled some troops from.
Wakayama has a fully functional refinery, size 50. Plus, why give easy victories to the Allies. I have a clear line of retreat, good terrain to fight in, so a few more troops headed there can't be bad, can it?

Which I might do with troops from Osaka...which the Allies have pulled some troops from.
Wakayama has a fully functional refinery, size 50. Plus, why give easy victories to the Allies. I have a clear line of retreat, good terrain to fight in, so a few more troops headed there can't be bad, can it?

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RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock
I railroad in some troops to Nagoya. I need more units there to soak off the bombardments with. I moved the 10th Inf Brigade in, and despite suffering over 1600 losses to naval bombardments, our disruption is lower on our two infantry divisions there and the AV is up over 150 points. Two or three more days for a fresh infantry division to arrive.
I was thinking about breaking down the infantry divisions to the thirds, but then I am fearful that will allow the bombardments to hit the smaller infantry regiments and brigades too. But I need to come up with a plan for recycling those two divisions.

I was thinking about breaking down the infantry divisions to the thirds, but then I am fearful that will allow the bombardments to hit the smaller infantry regiments and brigades too. But I need to come up with a plan for recycling those two divisions.

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RE: Disaster!
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Well, taking Shikoku opened up the western half of Honshu to aerial destruction and sweeps. Shikoku has an invasion beach without rail connections.
If the Allies would have moved fast, and focused their bombing on my troops in the open, then he could have cut Honshu in half. Unfortunately for him, I moved faster and stopped the invasion in x3 terrain. Matsumaya then held, and now he has reinforced there, but it still holds.
I have no clue why he invaded Honshu directly, if fact I had just prior come to the conclusion he had no plans on invading Honshu proper (and was terrified of a Chinese landing) and then moved on to Osaka and Nagoya some of the best terrain in the game for me to fight in.
If you read NJP/Wargamer, their first finished game, the Allies just roll across Honshu and the game ends in late Jan 1945 with AV and almost no strategic victory points...here the Allies have 40,000+. I bet he was expecting that outcome.
I think he has to be somewhat frustrated. I know he was surprised the game made it to 1944.
There are likely significant differences between the two games. I had already taken Shikaku(sp) and was attacking the eastern home islands along with having isolated china and a large amount of land units there plus I had control over Shanghai, etc.
Without at least 2 of those 3 conditions I do not believe I could have done anywhere near what I managed against NJP.

RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock
A lot of Japanese armor is one hex northeast of Gifu....where I suspect the Allies are moving with a new thrust, most likely fairly heavily armored. I am worried here about being pushed back...but we shall see what happens.


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RE: Disaster!
ORIGINAL: Wargmr
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Well, taking Shikoku opened up the western half of Honshu to aerial destruction and sweeps. Shikoku has an invasion beach without rail connections.
If the Allies would have moved fast, and focused their bombing on my troops in the open, then he could have cut Honshu in half. Unfortunately for him, I moved faster and stopped the invasion in x3 terrain. Matsumaya then held, and now he has reinforced there, but it still holds.
I have no clue why he invaded Honshu directly, if fact I had just prior come to the conclusion he had no plans on invading Honshu proper (and was terrified of a Chinese landing) and then moved on to Osaka and Nagoya some of the best terrain in the game for me to fight in.
If you read NJP/Wargamer, their first finished game, the Allies just roll across Honshu and the game ends in late Jan 1945 with AV and almost no strategic victory points...here the Allies have 40,000+. I bet he was expecting that outcome.
I think he has to be somewhat frustrated. I know he was surprised the game made it to 1944.
There are likely significant differences between the two games. I had already taken Shikaku(sp) and was attacking the eastern home islands along with having isolated china and a large amount of land units there plus I had control over Shanghai, etc.
Without at least 2 of those 3 conditions I do not believe I could have done anywhere near what I managed against NJP.
Oh, no doubt you are correct[:)]...but it isn't readily apparent from reading your AAR that NJP had something like five divisions on Formosa bypassed. Plus, all the troops you cut off. So far I have avoided that problem.
Still, I won't last as long as NJP did.[&o]
- Mike McCreery
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RE: Disaster!
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
ORIGINAL: Wargmr
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Well, taking Shikoku opened up the western half of Honshu to aerial destruction and sweeps. Shikoku has an invasion beach without rail connections.
If the Allies would have moved fast, and focused their bombing on my troops in the open, then he could have cut Honshu in half. Unfortunately for him, I moved faster and stopped the invasion in x3 terrain. Matsumaya then held, and now he has reinforced there, but it still holds.
I have no clue why he invaded Honshu directly, if fact I had just prior come to the conclusion he had no plans on invading Honshu proper (and was terrified of a Chinese landing) and then moved on to Osaka and Nagoya some of the best terrain in the game for me to fight in.
If you read NJP/Wargamer, their first finished game, the Allies just roll across Honshu and the game ends in late Jan 1945 with AV and almost no strategic victory points...here the Allies have 40,000+. I bet he was expecting that outcome.
I think he has to be somewhat frustrated. I know he was surprised the game made it to 1944.
There are likely significant differences between the two games. I had already taken Shikaku(sp) and was attacking the eastern home islands along with having isolated china and a large amount of land units there plus I had control over Shanghai, etc.
Without at least 2 of those 3 conditions I do not believe I could have done anywhere near what I managed against NJP.
Oh, no doubt you are correct[:)]...but it isn't readily apparent from reading your AAR that NJP had something like five divisions on Formosa bypassed. Plus, all the troops you cut off. So far I have avoided that problem.
Still, I won't last as long as NJP did.[&o]
LOL!! It is not exactly a fair test ;] But it is fun to watch action on the home islands. NJP is running circles around me in this new game so he will last even longer!!

RE: Disaster!
Not so sure about that Mike. You always seem to have my measure in the end [:D]
Wonderful game Lowpe, your fighting spirit is to be applauded and commended. Bravo Sir[&o]
Wonderful game Lowpe, your fighting spirit is to be applauded and commended. Bravo Sir[&o]
ORIGINAL: Wargmr
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
ORIGINAL: Wargmr
There are likely significant differences between the two games. I had already taken Shikaku(sp) and was attacking the eastern home islands along with having isolated china and a large amount of land units there plus I had control over Shanghai, etc.
Without at least 2 of those 3 conditions I do not believe I could have done anywhere near what I managed against NJP.
Oh, no doubt you are correct[:)]...but it isn't readily apparent from reading your AAR that NJP had something like five divisions on Formosa bypassed. Plus, all the troops you cut off. So far I have avoided that problem.
Still, I won't last as long as NJP did.[&o]
LOL!! It is not exactly a fair test ;] But it is fun to watch action on the home islands. NJP is running circles around me in this new game so he will last even longer!!
RE: Disaster!
July 6, 1944
It is the little things, a nice sweep and I haven't had better sweeps all game than this little gem. Meaningless, really, in the grander design -- but a nice morale boost for me.[;)]

It is the little things, a nice sweep and I haven't had better sweeps all game than this little gem. Meaningless, really, in the grander design -- but a nice morale boost for me.[;)]

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RE: Disaster!
Wakayama gets nailed from the air...I have another AA unit, some mortars, and a decent Ind Mxd Bde headed there, eta tomorrow...so hopefully they will hold versus the United Nations attacking them.


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RE: Disaster!
I lost Wakayama! [:(] Out and out negligence on my part.[:-]
Good day in the air, and the Allies didn't do that much damage to Honshu.[;)]

Good day in the air, and the Allies didn't do that much damage to Honshu.[;)]

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RE: Disaster!
July 7, 1944
Nagyoya, Cam Ranh Bay and Quinhon bombarded by the Allies. An I boat sinks a DE with a well placed torpedo. The DE was escorting two LST near Nagoya.
Golly gee wilkers, even the French are out to get me.[X(]
Near Ternate...

Nagyoya, Cam Ranh Bay and Quinhon bombarded by the Allies. An I boat sinks a DE with a well placed torpedo. The DE was escorting two LST near Nagoya.
Golly gee wilkers, even the French are out to get me.[X(]
Near Ternate...

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RE: Disaster!
I sent some Myojo kamikazes after a pair of destroyers, all 8 get thru LRCAP, but they all miss...despite having great pilots.
An Allied sweep goes horribly wrong here.

An Allied sweep goes horribly wrong here.

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Hiroshima is targeted today! Meanwhile 50 B29s target Shimoneski and suffers three damaged planes...I guess those squadrons had a milk run today.


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RE: Disaster!
Another 8 Myojo miss against the two Fletchers,while another squadron blunders into an element of the Deathstar off the Bonins. A tough day to be a Myojo pilot.
Spitfires sweep in the afternoon, and then Hiroshima is heavily bombed.
Still, a good day in the air almost. Shouldn't have sent the Myojo out...

The interesting thing here, is the squadron of Kamikazes (about 30 strong) flew two sorties of 8 planes each against a task force of 2 destroyers. The local commander feeling to fly 30 planes against so small a task force was wasteful no doubt, and although I missed, I feel better about using large squadrons of kamikazes.
Spitfires sweep in the afternoon, and then Hiroshima is heavily bombed.
Still, a good day in the air almost. Shouldn't have sent the Myojo out...

The interesting thing here, is the squadron of Kamikazes (about 30 strong) flew two sorties of 8 planes each against a task force of 2 destroyers. The local commander feeling to fly 30 planes against so small a task force was wasteful no doubt, and although I missed, I feel better about using large squadrons of kamikazes.
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