Rumble in the Southwest witpqs-A vs Andav-J 2011-11-29 to 2017-02-08

[witpqs]

Okinawa.

[witpqs]

Today's ship losses (plus one from tomorrow). At least one more LST will sink and a number of others are heavily damaged. No LCI(G) were sent to accompany them, instead being saved for troop convoys, but heavy destroyer escorts were assigned and three old BB bombarded. It was not enough. nature in the form of the conditions off Naha also tore up the LST making deliveries.

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Today's air losses.

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PacAO - located at Daito Shoto to support the battle for Naha.

[Drakanel]

Finally a new turn

Good progress all around. I'm really, really, really curious to see the results of the first attack at Naha tomorrow. Seems like you'll be bringing the big floating guns to bear. Wonder how much havoc they will cause.

Also interested in the Hainan invasion, I had forgotten you were planning to do it so soon. Guess it will be nice not having to worry about those 2 bases.

[Lowpe]

Why not soften them up for a few days prior to the first attack?

It is not like they are going somewhere.[:D]

I guess forts 6.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Why not soften them up for a few days prior to the first attack?

It is not like they are going somewhere.[:D]

I guess forts 6.

Certainly thought about that. If Naha is as tough a nut to crack as I anticipate, there will be plenty of time between ground assaults for the softening up!

[Lowpe]

What are your sub losses this game?

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

What are your sub losses this game?

Pretty modest, I think. I'll pull a full list next turn.

Walter has used his LBA very much against troops rather than diverting massive numbers for ASW.

[zuluhour]

I spent more time examining your choices on the previous page than loading my own "smallish" invasion.[:D] Funny too, still can't make up my mind!?

[witpqs]

1944 November 07

The Empire captured:


The Allies captured:


There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:


There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:


Imperial Naval Bombardments


Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding Naha
Allied Ships Bombarding Naha
Allied Ships Bombarding Naha
Allied Ships Bombarding Naha
Allied Ships Bombarding Naha
Allied Ships Bombarding Naha
Allied Ships Bombarding Naha
Allied Ships Bombarding Naha
Allied Ships Bombarding Naha
Allied Ships Bombarding Georgetown
Allied Ships Bombarding Naha


Our subs made a try at one of those cruisers limping back to Singapore but were stymied by an escort.

Over our southern armoured unit the Imperial fighters won the battle with a sweep, but it was small combat. Miles below, the 1st Army Tank Regiment is down to 81% disruption. The convoys heading for Kiungshan have not been spotted by the enemy and will land tomorrow.

The Imperials were retreated into Georgetown!

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Night Naval bombardment of Georgetown at 49,74

Allied Ships
BB Queen Elizabeth
BB Valiant

Japanese ground losses:
261 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Manpower hits 2
Fires 4457
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 13
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 1

BB Queen Elizabeth firing at Georgetown
BB Valiant firing at Georgetown


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Ground combat at 50,74 (near Georgetown)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13959 troops, 109 guns, 1397 vehicles, Assault Value = 1892

Defending force 6444 troops, 60 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 80

Allied adjusted assault: 595

Japanese adjusted defense: 55

Allied assault odds: 10 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3780 casualties reported
Squads: 54 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 150 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 39 (38 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 6

Allied ground losses:
81 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
18th Cavalry Regiment
254th Armoured Brigade
255th Indian Tank Brigade
150th RAC Regiment
268th Motorised Brigade
20th Indian Division
50th Tank Brigade
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
26th Indian Division
Gardner's Horse Regiment
5th Indian Division

Defending units:
63rd Inf Group Brigade
15th Garrison Unit
104th/C Division
89th JAAF AF Bn
7th Field Construction Battalion
11th/A Division
15th Army
11th/C Division


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All except for one small unit, frustrating our plans to move straight on Taiping. The troops retreated into Georgetown today will be hit by the larger number of faster RN and French battleships tonight. Yamato lives!

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIc x 2

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter VIc: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Yamato

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Beaufighter VIc bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Djemadja at 52,83

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
Mosquito FB.VI x 7

Allied aircraft losses
Mosquito FB.VI: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Yudachi

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Mosquito FB.VI bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb



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It's good that the RN has a tradition of intrepid sailors, because Willis and his carriers are once again sitting under Extreme Overcast, squarely in range of the IJN survivors. Weather forecast: Clear! 60 AV of two units was airlifted into Utan Melintang today. The air transports will switch to supply while 29 AV of the 50th Indian Para Bde marches NE to block the road and rail there, and will continue right on into Taiping. Their aim there will be to prevent retreat from Georgetown, holding until larger units arrive from the NE. They will be joined by another element (mentioned yesterday) loading on an LST at Langkawi that will land in the clear hex on the coast road. The balance of both the 50th and the 3rd Commando Bde are loading aboard LSI(L) at Victoria Point for sea lift to Utan Melintang. The convoy will be covered by the RN fast BB TF after they rearm. Of course those elements of the 50th will then make haste to reinforce the advance element. Two 25 plane P-40 groups that have been training on LowGround are moving into Alor Star and will begin strikes on the troops in the open at Georgetown (1x 500 lb + 2x 100 lb bombs each).

Lang Son again.

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Ground combat at Lang Son (70,56)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4920 troops, 414 guns, 220 vehicles, Assault Value = 2049

Defending force 25500 troops, 197 guns, 30 vehicles, Assault Value = 247

Japanese ground losses:
318 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (4 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Assaulting units:
I Corps Engr Grp
23rd Australian Brigade
8th New Chinese Corps
II Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
22nd Australian Brigade
27th Australian Brigade
4th Armoured Brigade
96th Chinese Division
23rd LRP Brigade
88th Chinese Division
111th LRP Brigade
36th Chinese Division
3rd New Chinese Corps
9th Australian Division
85th Medium Regiment
21st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
27th Indian Field Artillery Battalion
Southwest Pacific
2/11th Field Regiment
1st Medium Regiment
IV Indian Corps
25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
II Australian Corps
32nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
31st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
30th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd Medium Regiment
312th Base Group
2/9th Field Regiment
2/1st Med Regiment
251st Field Artillery Battalion
14th RAAF M/W Sqn
87th Medium Regiment
33rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
17th Indian Light AA Regiment
134th (East Ang) Regiment
417th Base Group
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment

Defending units:
27th Division
37th Division
59th Infantry Brigade
34th/A Division
2nd Ind. Field Artillery Regiment
1st Mortar Battalion
58th Infantry Regiment
31st Mountain Gun Regiment


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Even more artillery will be available to fire tomorrow when the next assault goes in.

Dutch units, two of them so far, have been arriving on Java and are helping with garrison duties. Our maneuvers to invest the remaining strongholds continue. The 2/7 Commando Battalion is recovering from seasickness at Tjilatjap before reembarking aboard APD to invade Oosthaven.

Daito Shoto has been secured. First attack at Naha was a bloodbath.

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Ground combat at Daito Shoto (98,69)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15277 troops, 326 guns, 398 vehicles, Assault Value = 757

Defending force 4661 troops, 52 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5

Allied adjusted assault: 794

Japanese adjusted defense: 2

Allied assault odds: 397 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1793 casualties reported
Squads: 142 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 38 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 32 (23 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Assaulting units:
2nd Arm Amphib Battalion
112th Cavalry Regiment
1st Arm Amphib Battalion
102nd Cmbt Engineer Regiment
93rd Infantry Division
3rd NZ Armoured Sqn
12th USN Naval Construction Regiment
4th Pioneer Battalion
16th USN Naval Construction Regiment
Seventh USAAF
198th Field Artillery Battalion
26th US Naval Construction Battalion
4th RNZAF Base Force
26th USN Naval Construction Regiment
III Amphib Corps
30th USN Naval Construction Regiment
1 Group RNZAF
5th RNZAF Base Force
868th Aviation Engineer Battalion
15th USN Naval Construction Regiment
225th Field Artillery Battalion
40th US Naval Construction Battalion
Pacific Ocean Areas
39th US Naval Construction Battalion
17th Base Maint Engineer Battalion
31st USN Naval Construction Regiment

Defending units:
37th Ind.Mixed Brigade
25th Special Base Force


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37th Ind.Mixed Brigade Wiped Out at Daito Shoto by attrition!!!
25th Special Base Force Wiped Out at Daito Shoto by attrition!!!
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Night Naval bombardment of Naha at 95,66 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

23 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
CA Ramree Island, Shell hits 2

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for CA Ramree Island
CA Ramree Island firing at Okinawa Naval Base Force
Okinawa Naval Base Force firing at CA Ramree Island


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Night Naval bombardment of Naha at 95,66 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

43 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Wisconsin
BB New Jersey, Shell hits 4
BB Iowa

Japanese ground losses:
266 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 13 (5 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Manpower hits 1
Fires 4712
Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 3
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1

OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB Wisconsin
BB Wisconsin firing at Naha
BB New Jersey firing at Okinawa Naval Base Force
Okinawa Naval Base Force firing at BB New Jersey
OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB Iowa
BB Iowa firing at 35th Division


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Night Naval bombardment of Naha at 95,66 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

18 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
CA Prome, Shell hits 1
CA Baltimore

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Manpower hits 1
Fires 4744
Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 8
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1

CA Prome firing at Okinawa Naval Base Force
Okinawa Naval Base Force firing at CA Prome
CA Baltimore firing at Naha


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Night Naval bombardment of Naha at 95,66 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

20 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
CA Salt Lake City
CA Northampton

Japanese ground losses:
73 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Manpower hits 2
Fires 4670
Runway hits 4

CA Salt Lake City firing at Naha
CA Northampton firing at Okinawa Naval Base Force
Okinawa Naval Base Force firing at CA Northampton


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Night Naval bombardment of Naha at 95,66

Allied Ships
BB Colorado

Japanese ground losses:
97 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Manpower hits 1
Fires 9262
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

BB Colorado firing at Naha


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Night Naval bombardment of Naha at 95,66 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

11 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Idaho, Shell hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
47 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Okinawa Naval Base Force firing at BB Idaho
BB Idaho firing at Okinawa Naval Base Force


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Night Naval bombardment of Naha at 95,66 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

24 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
CL Kalao
CL Cleveland

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

CL Kalao firing at Okinawa Naval Base Force
Okinawa Naval Base Force firing at CL Kalao
CL Cleveland firing at 35th Division


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Night Naval bombardment of Naha at 95,66

Allied Ships
BB Oklahoma

Japanese ground losses:
54 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Manpower hits 2
Fires 13672
Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 3
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

BB Oklahoma firing at Naha


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Night Naval bombardment of Naha at 95,66

Allied Ships
BB Tennessee

Japanese ground losses:
79 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB Tennessee
BB Tennessee firing at 34th Ind.Mixed Brigade


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Night Naval bombardment of Naha at 95,66 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

11 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB New Mexico

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

BB New Mexico firing at Okinawa Naval Base Force
Okinawa Naval Base Force firing at BB New Mexico


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Ground combat at Naha (95,66)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 78156 troops, 1248 guns, 1855 vehicles, Assault Value = 2772

Defending force 42581 troops, 499 guns, 174 vehicles, Assault Value = 1012

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5

Allied adjusted assault: 3203

Japanese adjusted defense: 4963

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 5)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: HQ(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1202 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 69 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 33 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 53 (3 destroyed, 50 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
7739 casualties reported
Squads: 322 destroyed, 420 disabled
Non Combat: 65 destroyed, 87 disabled
Engineers: 37 destroyed, 25 disabled
Guns lost 162 (74 destroyed, 88 disabled)
Vehicles lost 209 (110 destroyed, 99 disabled)

Assaulting units:
43rd Infantry Division
2nd Marine Division
40th Infantry Division
710th Tank Battalion
25th Infantry Division
XIV Corps Engr Grp
41st Infantry Division
766th Tank Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion
194th Tank Battalion
6th Infantry Division
716th Tank Battalion
193rd Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
3rd Arm Amphib Battalion
767th Tank Battalion
Sixth US Army
XIV US Corps
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
3rd AmphTrac Engineer Battalion

Defending units:
35th Division
75th Infantry Brigade
2nd Tank Regiment
34th Ind.Mixed Brigade
15th Ind.Mixed Regiment
Det. 3rd Special Base Force
31st JAAF AF Bn
39th Field AA Machinecannon Company
100th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
80th Field AA Battalion
Okinawa Naval Base Force
79th Field AA Battalion
32nd Army
3rd Medium Mortar Battalion
Nansei Shoto JNAF Base Force
81st Field AA Battalion
244th JAAF AF Bn


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The excess combat units are now loading at Daito Shoto, with only the 112th Cavalry Rgt staying on as garrison. At Naha only two of the divisions are being left on the line, the other four are in reserve mode to facilitate recovery. The two artillery Bn are in good shape but will stand down to avoid instigating counter-battery fire that interferes with combat unit recovery. There were no air strikes at all against the defensive positions at Naha, which certainly did not help our side. The cause is unknown as weather seemed adequate. Could it be fires at the base from the night's bombardments?

China. Notice that troops are moving out of Nanning to the east, obviously in response to our threat to other areas.

[witpqs]

Malay Peninsula & Sumatra.

[witpqs]

Java Sea.

[witpqs]

Okinawa.

[witpqs]

Naha, armor and infantry.

[witpqs]

Naha, other units.

[witpqs]

Today's ship losses. Notice that Yamato sunk again, frightened by not being hit again. So far Yamato has yielded us possibly more than 10,000 VP by sinking over and over again.

[witpqs]

Today's air losses.

[Drakanel]

Well, ouch. Naha was really a bloodbath. Forts lvl 6 before the fights, you also had a bad roll.. It's going to take a while. You'll have to bomb/bombard it to the ground I think.

Apart from that, it's very nice that you managed to have those units retreat to georgetown. And also good progress at Lang Son.

About the Yamato, the Devious Admiral has you fooled! You think it's a battleship, but it's actually a sub. So your forces keep saying it's been sunk... [:D]

[witpqs]

It's like the Rocky movies - Yamato Part 1, Yamato Part 2, Yamato Part3... [:D]