Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam)

[cpt flam]

despite their claim
Tula has been liberated without a fight

[cpt flam]

action from Orel to the coast
losses are interesting
18 910 vs 21 K for me
540 Art for 216
112 AFV for 63
part of axis losses come from Rumania & Hungary

[morvael]

ORIGINAL: cpt flam
despite their claim
Tula has been liberated without a fight

With troops NE of Tula in disarray (no fort, clear terrain) it was too hard to hold the city. I knew I will have no time to fortify enough to keep the city, but the goal of November's attack was to destroy factories, so the operation was a success, despite that withdrawal.

[gingerbread]

28 guards in '41??? It's supposed to be maxed at 5% but I don't believe for a second that you have 500+ RD's! What gives? Ordinal number of destroyed guards not being reused?

[chaos45]

Ginger- I believe with mild winter the Soviets get a higher guards % to help make up for much tougher Germans in the first winter.

I dont know what the higher % is but thats my understanding.

[gingerbread]

@chaos45: No, mild winter lowers the requirement for promotion or rather gives bonus to the roll. Or should, that is. As should playing with combat bonus: NONE (no +1).

@cpt flam: How many guards RD do you have on map in the last turn of '41, T28?

[cpt flam]

Guard units: 26 Rifle div, 1 Cav corps, 3 Para X, 1 Tank X, 3 Sapper and 8 Art

[STEF78]

Could you please post the OOB?

I would be surprised if the russians take Moscow back... annoying for 1942...

[cpt flam]

ok stef78
here is OOB for january 1st 1942
end of my turn
i make a save before ending turn, this serve for this AAR

[cpt flam]

Georgy Zakharov (24 Army) in front of Rzhev has been promoted Général-Leitenant
new year give a lot of awards + 23 Guard rifle div, +5 Guard ART and a sapper
routed germans are 17 Panzer Div and 8 SS cav brigade

[cpt flam]

boulette
action continue in the south
routed are Hungary Moto and Rumania Armored
losses this week
17 800 vs 26 200 men
520 vs 340 ART
107 vs 65 AFV

[cpt flam]

northern part of active front
one more Rifle Guard around Tula
second Guard cav corp near Orel
not much ground will be taken later[&:]

[cpt flam]

Mikhail Kirponos (SW front) was promoted to Général Armii

Losses
18.2 vs 27 K men
560 "" 410 ART
38 "" 73 AFV

[Peltonx]

Cap your not in bad shape.

Sure he took Moscow, but he did not do much in the south. You saved more manpower then you would have lost if he did not take it and took what is normally taken in the south.

Be and interesting summer

[cpt flam]

sorry for the delay, but working & playing is difficult
this time Cav units are highlighted
losses for my part of the turn are
21.6 vs 28.7 K of men
620 to 380 ART
115 vs 91 AFV

[cpt flam]

in the south
Mikhail Kovalev (37 Army) as his INF rating increased to 6
this army is near Stalino
i have two more corps of Cav to create next turn

[shermanny]

You are going to be scarily vulnerable come March 1942. The bulges on either flank of Moscow both invite encirclement. The face of his salient at Moscow might be thinly held, and in that case, he can attack out of the face and create a situation where your lines get thinner and thinner on both flanks.

Long, thin lines and exposed salients are opportunities for the highly mobile Germans.

If you were to pull back in a timely fashion, especially in the North where there is nothing that much needs to be defended anyhow, you could give some depth and mass to your defenses elsewhere.

[morvael]

In March 1942 German units are useless, there is still strength penalty (even on Mild Blizzard) and they are low on morale and equipment after all this hammering during winter (I kept morale at better levels at the price of higher losses by retaking most of the hexes captured during Soviet turn giving me wins, and thus morale gains). My frontline was long, and I was unable to put panzers in reserve, so they spent winter fighting and are now at 45-65% TOE (especially infantry is missing). But Führer's orders were fulfilled - not one step back [:)]

[cpt flam]

Ivan Galanin (20 Army) south of Kaluga was promoted Général Leitenant
I got 3 Cav corp becoming Guard
ARM pool fall to zero[:(]

[cpt flam]

losses from my turn
20.3 vs 25.6 K of troopers
600 vs 340 ART
133 vs 58 AFV
generaly when Cav is behind the front, it will be in reserve
here are two of the fresh Guards