The shock attack faied. Over 160 assualt points to zip, but only 1to 1 in men.
Buggar!
how fortunes change in this game
His C-47s continue to fly in, get intercepted, and fast TFs are getting in, and Im bogged down
38 division is loading, it looks like PM operation round 2, exactly what he wants, but what can I do, Ive invested so much into PM honour says I must capture it
Now I understand how Stalingrad happened
Anyway, this game continues to hammer home some real truths about warfare, and by doing that proves how good it is.
Wobbly is good, but I aint finished yet.
Beer gives you the wobblies
Bummer
Our 1st PM attack has failed.
Stanby for a second attempt.
38th division will capture PM, and combined fleet will send all available ships to the area.
The mighty Yamato will use her guns to affect, and our CVs will protect her, and smash the enemy.
This annoying problem must be crushed!
Details of forces involved will be posted tomorrow, real life intrudes
Attack!!!!!!
Stanby for a second attempt.
38th division will capture PM, and combined fleet will send all available ships to the area.
The mighty Yamato will use her guns to affect, and our CVs will protect her, and smash the enemy.
This annoying problem must be crushed!
Details of forces involved will be posted tomorrow, real life intrudes
Attack!!!!!!
Big seas, Fast ships, life tastes better with salt
the plan Mk2
Well here is the plan for PM , round 2
TF57, 3cv,1cvl,2cs, will cover
TF58, BB mutsu will be the 1st bombardment group
TF 59 BB yamato will form the core of the 2nd bombardment group
a third will be formed out of the AP escorts as occasion permits
Some 5 invasion fleets have sailed. 3 regiments ,2 from 38th division, 1 from 2nd division are PM bound, plus tanks
1 regiment from 38th division is headed for Salamanua bay.
1 regiment from yazawa detachment is headed to lea.
As soon as wobbly sees the CVs im guessing he will try to hit somewhere else, CV Hiryu, and bait, are lurking...........
I hope this will be sufficient troops.
This all means I think that wobbly has greatly increased his chances of winning, as a plunge for auto victory is in the bin now, I can hope though to catch a few surface vessels with my Cvs.
Time will tell:p
TF57, 3cv,1cvl,2cs, will cover
TF58, BB mutsu will be the 1st bombardment group
TF 59 BB yamato will form the core of the 2nd bombardment group
a third will be formed out of the AP escorts as occasion permits
Some 5 invasion fleets have sailed. 3 regiments ,2 from 38th division, 1 from 2nd division are PM bound, plus tanks
1 regiment from 38th division is headed for Salamanua bay.
1 regiment from yazawa detachment is headed to lea.
As soon as wobbly sees the CVs im guessing he will try to hit somewhere else, CV Hiryu, and bait, are lurking...........
I hope this will be sufficient troops.
This all means I think that wobbly has greatly increased his chances of winning, as a plunge for auto victory is in the bin now, I can hope though to catch a few surface vessels with my Cvs.
Time will tell:p
Big seas, Fast ships, life tastes better with salt
another day
Well absolutely no action today.
BB Hiei arrives, and forms nucleus of another BB group, and is dispatched south.
of interest a convoy is sighted near Wunpunko?,, is it a sneak attack on rennel island?
If so, CV Hiryu is in perfect position...........
I notice PM has been emptied of AC.
Tomorrow some action should begin.
BB Hiei arrives, and forms nucleus of another BB group, and is dispatched south.
of interest a convoy is sighted near Wunpunko?,, is it a sneak attack on rennel island?
If so, CV Hiryu is in perfect position...........
I notice PM has been emptied of AC.
Tomorrow some action should begin.
Big seas, Fast ships, life tastes better with salt
Good stuff
A bloody nose for wobbly, CV Hiryu hammers a convoy of Wunpunko(or whatever),5 APs/aks hit, and a SC sunk
In return I lose yet another AP to subs on the death run from PM.
Nevertheless, all else goes well.
A mad notion fills my mind, all these ships and men headed towards NG, what if they were sent to say - cairns?
That would leave PM isolated for sure.
Soon I will have 6 cv, 1cvl,5BB, and 2 divisions in area.
I ask for advise, its a risky move, but......
In return I lose yet another AP to subs on the death run from PM.
Nevertheless, all else goes well.
A mad notion fills my mind, all these ships and men headed towards NG, what if they were sent to say - cairns?
That would leave PM isolated for sure.
Soon I will have 6 cv, 1cvl,5BB, and 2 divisions in area.
I ask for advise, its a risky move, but......
Big seas, Fast ships, life tastes better with salt
You'll get spanked by hundreds of level bombers and nothing to do but cry about it afterwards.
Grind PM down - and then get some troops out to Irau to occupy it (not to build it). Mayeb bulid a fort, some supplies and a few garrison troops. Will be your best opportunity to keep short range allied planes out of reach.
Grind PM down - and then get some troops out to Irau to occupy it (not to build it). Mayeb bulid a fort, some supplies and a few garrison troops. Will be your best opportunity to keep short range allied planes out of reach.
With dancing Bananas and Storm Troopers who needs BBs?
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Cairns...
Playing with the same idea now in another PBEM. I let my opponent send troops to NG, raiding his FT after the first unloading day. He now has more than 2 divisions in NG (in PM, GG and even Buna) in June 1942.
So the plan is to take part of Australia to cut them of supplies and let them die of disease/hunger.
But I want to sink or disable the US CV fleet before. I would go to Australia only if I have a clear superiority in CV.
I will send three divisions (2nd, 38th and some other troops). I had not yet attacked PM.
Then, the target : Townsville and Charter Towers is certainly the best but if Cairns and Cooktown are underdefended while TV is strongly held, I would change my target.
If Rockhampton is empty, it may well deserve a small landing to cover the flank of an operation in Townsville. Just to hold some days reinforcements coming from Brisbane by the road.
So the plan is to take part of Australia to cut them of supplies and let them die of disease/hunger.
But I want to sink or disable the US CV fleet before. I would go to Australia only if I have a clear superiority in CV.
I will send three divisions (2nd, 38th and some other troops). I had not yet attacked PM.
Then, the target : Townsville and Charter Towers is certainly the best but if Cairns and Cooktown are underdefended while TV is strongly held, I would change my target.
If Rockhampton is empty, it may well deserve a small landing to cover the flank of an operation in Townsville. Just to hold some days reinforcements coming from Brisbane by the road.
Re: Cairns...
Originally posted by AmiralLaurent
Playing with the same idea now in another PBEM. I let my opponent send troops to NG, raiding his FT after the first unloading day. He now has more than 2 divisions in NG (in PM, GG and even Buna) in June 1942.
So the plan is to take part of Australia to cut them of supplies and let them die of disease/hunger.
But I want to sink or disable the US CV fleet before. I would go to Australia only if I have a clear superiority in CV.
I will send three divisions (2nd, 38th and some other troops). I had not yet attacked PM.
Then, the target : Townsville and Charter Towers is certainly the best but if Cairns and Cooktown are underdefended while TV is strongly held, I would change my target.
If Rockhampton is empty, it may well deserve a small landing to cover the flank of an operation in Townsville. Just to hold some days reinforcements coming from Brisbane by the road.
But a smart USN player will not come out and engage unless he has significant forces. And it is in his best interest to wait anyway.
And the Roackhampton piece is good in conjunction with a landing at TV, assuming it is open. If not, it is a drain from the main objective.
"Life is tough, it's even tougher when you're stupid" -SGT John M. Stryker, USMC
Thanks guys
Advise appreciated
Ive been called an idiot by my base support officer, where will I get the supplies from, hard enough supplying NG ops at the moment, let alone an operation in Aust.
SO its PM or bust......again:(
Yes Irau is on the list, Im hoping having Hiryu in the area there will keep it free of enemy troops until mine arrive.
Not taking PM 1st go really has thrown the timetable out.
Im dreading the run into PM, I could probably walk there . from one sub deck to the next:eek:
Anyway, the 1st regiment to NG arrives Lea today, my CVs are covering it, the main forces are about 5 days before they get involved
PM lacks a airfield icon, this is a worry, Cooktown and cairns must be wieghed down with LBA, Im going to have to deal with it. Staff are debating the way ahead.
If I dont take PM this try Im stuffed!
Its a great game
PS Beer is good, but tastes better when you are winning.
Ive been called an idiot by my base support officer, where will I get the supplies from, hard enough supplying NG ops at the moment, let alone an operation in Aust.
SO its PM or bust......again:(
Yes Irau is on the list, Im hoping having Hiryu in the area there will keep it free of enemy troops until mine arrive.
Not taking PM 1st go really has thrown the timetable out.
Im dreading the run into PM, I could probably walk there . from one sub deck to the next:eek:
Anyway, the 1st regiment to NG arrives Lea today, my CVs are covering it, the main forces are about 5 days before they get involved
PM lacks a airfield icon, this is a worry, Cooktown and cairns must be wieghed down with LBA, Im going to have to deal with it. Staff are debating the way ahead.
If I dont take PM this try Im stuffed!
Its a great game
PS Beer is good, but tastes better when you are winning.
Big seas, Fast ships, life tastes better with salt
We aim to please
You should see it from our side, the temptation to read wobblies posts!. Still Im glad I havent, doesnt everyone go from elation to despair with this game in a couple of turns, or do I really need to get a life:D
This does show why PBEM is sooooooo good with this game, you never ever know what to expect, especially when newbies like myself are blundering about the place
Im hoping begginers luck will win me this war!
This does show why PBEM is sooooooo good with this game, you never ever know what to expect, especially when newbies like myself are blundering about the place
Im hoping begginers luck will win me this war!
Big seas, Fast ships, life tastes better with salt
thunderstorms
just like Luskin, its thunderstorms city in this game
Well, submarines everywhere from PM to GG, I counted 6 that turn, they accounted for a PC and a AP today. Drip, drip drip, the IJN bleeds:(
Im routing the main forces to PM around those reefs to the east of GG, takes longer, hopefully safer.
While they slowly arrive and gather, I still consider my options, Wobbly is I think slowly evacuating PM, I tried a probing attack today, only about 500 troops short of 2 to 1.
So, im going to wait a couple of days, then try again, if I do succeed before committing to PM again it might save a lot of casualties from his rested (very rested) LBA
My troops are landed at Lea, and advancing on Marilun?.
Cv Hiryu continues to lurk about lunga, the other CVs will announce their presence tomorrow of PM, hopefully wobbly will think Lunga is clear now.
Yes, reading back I do whine and winge a bit dont I!!!
But its a good way to get HQ to release more stuff:p
Well, submarines everywhere from PM to GG, I counted 6 that turn, they accounted for a PC and a AP today. Drip, drip drip, the IJN bleeds:(
Im routing the main forces to PM around those reefs to the east of GG, takes longer, hopefully safer.
While they slowly arrive and gather, I still consider my options, Wobbly is I think slowly evacuating PM, I tried a probing attack today, only about 500 troops short of 2 to 1.
So, im going to wait a couple of days, then try again, if I do succeed before committing to PM again it might save a lot of casualties from his rested (very rested) LBA
My troops are landed at Lea, and advancing on Marilun?.
Cv Hiryu continues to lurk about lunga, the other CVs will announce their presence tomorrow of PM, hopefully wobbly will think Lunga is clear now.
Yes, reading back I do whine and winge a bit dont I!!!
But its a good way to get HQ to release more stuff:p
Big seas, Fast ships, life tastes better with salt
Re: thunderstorms
Originally posted by herbieh
just like Luskin, its thunderstorms city in this game
Well, submarines everywhere from PM to GG, I counted 6 that turn, they accounted for a PC and a AP today. Drip, drip drip, the IJN bleeds:(
Im routing the main forces to PM around those reefs to the east of GG, takes longer, hopefully safer.
While they slowly arrive and gather, I still consider my options, Wobbly is I think slowly evacuating PM, I tried a probing attack today, only about 500 troops short of 2 to 1.
So, im going to wait a couple of days, then try again, if I do succeed before committing to PM again it might save a lot of casualties from his rested (very rested) LBA
My troops are landed at Lea, and advancing on Marilun?.
Cv Hiryu continues to lurk about lunga, the other CVs will announce their presence tomorrow of PM, hopefully wobbly will think Lunga is clear now.
Yes, reading back I do whine and winge a bit dont I!!!
But its a good way to get HQ to release more stuff:p
Squeaky wheel gets the oil:p
"Life is tough, it's even tougher when you're stupid" -SGT John M. Stryker, USMC
subs
DD Arunta is gutted by SS1-1 of cairns, but is also sunk.
PM shows some life, so the CV task force is ordered to hit it again.
The regiment for lea have landed safely, and are marching to Marilium? (bloody spelling and non typo fingers!)
The PM invasion force is still gathering of to the east of Gilli, gilli.
The 2nd regiment destined for Lea, has been diverted to the PM invasion.
Nothing much else happening, a few days yet.
Forgot, CV Hiryu is charging south, Im looking for shipping between Brisbane and Numea, time to stir the pot
PM shows some life, so the CV task force is ordered to hit it again.
The regiment for lea have landed safely, and are marching to Marilium? (bloody spelling and non typo fingers!)
The PM invasion force is still gathering of to the east of Gilli, gilli.
The 2nd regiment destined for Lea, has been diverted to the PM invasion.
Nothing much else happening, a few days yet.
Forgot, CV Hiryu is charging south, Im looking for shipping between Brisbane and Numea, time to stir the pot
Big seas, Fast ships, life tastes better with salt
being a newbie
trouble with being a newbie i havent the grasp yet on what the real allied capabilities are at this stage, so I keep having this endless debate about striking deep now into maybe lightly garrisoned places, or just how hard will the battle ahead for PM be.
I dont want 10zillion soldiers to reload at PM when it falls if they could go elswhere
Oh the MiserY:p
Anyway a great steel juggernaught has begun to roll towards pM, a few days yet and the forces will converge.
Hiryu continues south, undetected, a massive CV strike on PM doesnt close the field at all, his SBDs there sink 2 PGs.
otherwise all is quiet.
I dont want 10zillion soldiers to reload at PM when it falls if they could go elswhere
Oh the MiserY:p
Anyway a great steel juggernaught has begun to roll towards pM, a few days yet and the forces will converge.
Hiryu continues south, undetected, a massive CV strike on PM doesnt close the field at all, his SBDs there sink 2 PGs.
otherwise all is quiet.
Big seas, Fast ships, life tastes better with salt
After taking PM I recommend you to go ahead and take Irau and Nevea. In June 1942 Allied force is pretty still weak. Using Irau and Nevea as stepping stones you may try to take Luganville later.
And don't try to take troops from PM directly. Order troops to move to Buna through Kokoda trail and take them out by ships. Also don't try to supply PM directly. Supply Buna and PM will be supplied automatically via ground.
Just my 2 cents.
And don't try to take troops from PM directly. Order troops to move to Buna through Kokoda trail and take them out by ships. Also don't try to supply PM directly. Supply Buna and PM will be supplied automatically via ground.
Just my 2 cents.
"War is a series of catastrophes that results in a victory."
Georges Clemenceau
Georges Clemenceau
Taking PM and the way you do it are in good part on your opponent.
1. what forces are in PM?
2. Who has the naval advantage.
3. What your opponents reaction will be.
4. Avaliability of land air support?
If the naval advantage is yours, Lae is operational and can provide fighter LRCAP and the enemy has less than 3 or less brigades, consider taking it directly.
Otherwise, a combination of Buna then PM plus a landing force will work better.
I took PM in a two part operation in one PBEM game. Landed enough to get something more than 1 to 1, isolated PM with bombardment, CV and LBA strikes until I landed a second force two weeks later.
(wasn't planned that way, but didn't have the forces available because of variable reinforcement)
The nice thing about the landing force is that if they only fight a turn or two, you can load them and move them for a follow invasion of Australia as they are still relatively "fresh"(If you have a serious CV advantage)
1. what forces are in PM?
2. Who has the naval advantage.
3. What your opponents reaction will be.
4. Avaliability of land air support?
If the naval advantage is yours, Lae is operational and can provide fighter LRCAP and the enemy has less than 3 or less brigades, consider taking it directly.
Otherwise, a combination of Buna then PM plus a landing force will work better.
I took PM in a two part operation in one PBEM game. Landed enough to get something more than 1 to 1, isolated PM with bombardment, CV and LBA strikes until I landed a second force two weeks later.
(wasn't planned that way, but didn't have the forces available because of variable reinforcement)
The nice thing about the landing force is that if they only fight a turn or two, you can load them and move them for a follow invasion of Australia as they are still relatively "fresh"(If you have a serious CV advantage)
"Life is tough, it's even tougher when you're stupid" -SGT John M. Stryker, USMC