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Scoreboard

Clearly Mike is getting on top and each month he is gaining about 4K in VPs.

Losing 3 Fleet CVs when I was smashed by his Carrier groups also didn't help my cause. In saying that his casualties amongst his surface and air groups have also been high. In particular his BBs have really been smashed up which has given me some respite from the bombardments.

Mike is now deploying Brit BBs around the critical theatres which historically he has been reluctant to do due to their vulnerability so I know he is feeling the pinch.

Won't save me though!

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Escorting two modern BBs with just 4 DDs, he must think he is Ching Lee.
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LOL, he did have quite a few more. This was the second engagement for this taskforce after the first big clash.

It is very hard to get at any of his capital ships, let alone sink them[:(]
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Escorting two modern BBs with just 4 DDs, he must think he is Ching Lee.
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How about a picture of just your engine production...very curious.

I wish you had 500 Sams a month in production instead of the A6M8.[:(]
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Long overdue update. Too busy playing the turns and real life to update the AAR.

Massive activity in November as both sides really tore into each other. I had some good wins in the air and naval action off the coast of China but got smashed on land, losing a number of key positions in China.

Large air strikes of B29s and B24s combined with his remaining BBs proved deadly and the defences crumpled due to disruption.

Mike still has a long way to go for VPs but I think he is now gaining about 10K per month which puts him on track for a win in Jun 45 [:(]

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Russia- the soviets have come alive with the increased activity of the allies in China as they attempt to open another front.

In this theatre I still hold a number of advantages which makes the Soviets advance in open terrain costly. The main advantages I hold which have prevented a collapse are:

1. Control of the air.

2. My units are better supplied in the South

3. After 7 months of intensive fighting and heavy losses, the Soviet forces are a shadow of their former selves, especially their armoured formations.

4. I have better internal lines of communication and can still resupply with fresh units from the home land.


All in all I am still confident of fighting at least to a draw in the next couple of months, if the Allies stay out of the fight. Which of course they wont....[X(]

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China - the problem child.

Mike has done a beautiful job here of advancing up the coast and then ripping me in half. He knows I can't defend in open terrain against his armour and air and thus has made this terrain the main axis of his approach.

Nothing I can do now to stop him and I fear he can cut right through into Manchuria. The only problem he will run into is up north the positions are strong, well supplied and have strong air cover. Mike won't be able to use his BBs on the inland positions either.

Not happy with my fight here but not sure what I could have done against the massive array of firepower deployed against me. Even the bastion of Formosa eventually was battered into submission by 4e bombers and the lack of supply.

Just plain nasty here[8|]

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The Allies have paid a price in shipping and aircraft as they rip China into half.

The Home Islands still have over 2.5 mil in supplies and each turn my air and naval forces surge forth to ambush his bombing raids and supply convoys.

The FrankR has been giving his naval aviation a hard time, smashing up his Hellcats on sweeps. The long lance still rules naval engagements even in Nov 44 and his warships have paid a heavy price against the agile/veteran DDs that remain.

For novelty value I have even unleashed the Ohkas who have accounted for a decent CL and a half decent mine layer.

In the battle below two Allied BBs were crippled by long lances in a short nasty battle at night.



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Aircraft pools-as you will note below I still have a stack of good airframes that I can expend.

Engine production:

- Ha-35: 1020 (good number and adequate for my needs)

- HA-45: 850 (barely adequate but liveable)

- HA-32: 490 (not enough, issue for my 2E aircraft)

-HA-33: 460 (not enough by a long way. My biggest error in not building enough of these. Impacting the production of the A6M8, Judy3 and the Tony 100)

State of Allied aircraft pools I have no idea. He has lost 750 B24Js, 250 P47D25s and around 1700 Hellcats. I think his pools amongst USN aircraft would be low after the massive fights in November though I could be completely wrong.

I have hardly touched the B29s- maybe 70 so far downed.






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Economy

In summary, plenty of fuel and supplies in the Home land. Manchuria is fine and easily resupplied when required.

China is a mess, though the North is now a lot better.

Japan's economy will likely collapse by June 45 (run out of fuel/oil stockpiles) but by then I would have likely lost the game on points.




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Great updates, few and far between, but like gold![:)]

The Soviet strike, if only you didn't need the KB during the opening of the Soviet strike! A bitter repulse in the PI might have proved this tactic.

I am sorry to see the KI100 not on the list of planes with deep pools. Keep making the KAI Tony, it is a decent plane, you have the factories and HI.

Your industry is untouched by bombing basically, perhaps you can hold out longer. Start stockpiling worthless devices now & be careful with rebuilding troops!

You can do it...it is a marathon and you are still in a neat place! How much of that fuel is in Honshu?

Okha! Tough to use...congratulations!
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Thanks Lowpe, I'm glad you are finding it interesting.

KB would not have stopped the PI invasion but some of the units committed to the Russian adventure should have been digging in Manilla or Clarke. It probably has cost me about a month.

Balancing that is the VPs gained against the Soviets which hopefully keeps the game going.

Yep stuffed up the Ki100 by failing to stockpile enough Ha-33 engines. When I started the mass production of the A6M8 I failed to realise the switch in engine. A rookie error which has cost me.

Industry completely untouched and 2 mil of fuel + 500K oil still in the Home Islands [:)]

Once again I appreciate your support, questions and advice.
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Great updates, few and far between, but like gold![:)]

The Soviet strike, if only you didn't need the KB during the opening of the Soviet strike! A bitter repulse in the PI might have proved this tactic.

I am sorry to see the KI100 not on the list of planes with deep pools. Keep making the KAI Tony, it is a decent plane, you have the factories and HI.

Your industry is untouched by bombing basically, perhaps you can hold out longer. Start stockpiling worthless devices now & be careful with rebuilding troops!

You can do it...it is a marathon and you are still in a neat place! How much of that fuel is in Honshu?

Okha! Tough to use...congratulations!
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Japan's economy will likely collapse by June 45 (run out of fuel/oil stockpiles) but by then I would have likely lost the game on points.
With the numbers you are showing (3M supply, 4M Fuel, 1M Oil) in your empire you should be fine until '46 IF you do not run your fuel in your Navy.

Focus on getting as much of your fuel/oil back to the HI.
Disperse your supply as best you can in high fort bases.
Try and get as many of your support forces back to your defense as you can. Air Transport, subs, etc however you can.
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Japan's economy will likely collapse by June 45 (run out of fuel/oil stockpiles) but by then I would have likely lost the game on points.
With the numbers you are showing (3M supply, 4M Fuel, 1M Oil) in your empire you should be fine until '46 IF you do not run your fuel in your Navy.

Focus on getting as much of your fuel/oil back to the HI.
Disperse your supply as best you can in high fort bases.
Try and get as many of your support forces back to your defense as you can. Air Transport, subs, etc however you can.

Im thinking NJP72 is thinking the points will achieve 2:1 anyway sometime mid 1945 .. I tend to agree.
Two targets Tsiton and Tsingtao I see with the "!" and will fall quickly to the Allied hoards. Tsintsin is at the end of the open terrain and maybe the stopping point?

"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
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Thanks guys, good comments there.

Correct Dave, its the points that will be an issue as the Allied monster rampages through China.

You are also spot on about Tsintsin. It is now heavily fortified with good levels of supply and a combined arms Corps of 2000 AV. Judging by detection levels Mike appears to have had a good look.

His air and navy have been strangely quiet over the last week. In part that has to be due to losses but I also think Mike is contemplating opening another sector of advance. With the Russians stopped cold again I suspect he is thinking the Aleutians. I am already detecting heavy sig traffic and seeing CVs and APAs moving around Adak.

Really loving the Frank R at the moment. It is amazing how much of an impact this airframe has had but there is also the psychologically aspect as well. Mike won't dare bomb Japan in daylight at the moment largely due to this aircraft.


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Japan's economy will likely collapse by June 45 (run out of fuel/oil stockpiles) but by then I would have likely lost the game on points.
With the numbers you are showing (3M supply, 4M Fuel, 1M Oil) in your empire you should be fine until '46 IF you do not run your fuel in your Navy.

Focus on getting as much of your fuel/oil back to the HI.
Disperse your supply as best you can in high fort bases.
Try and get as many of your support forces back to your defense as you can. Air Transport, subs, etc however you can.

Im thinking NJP72 is thinking the points will achieve 2:1 anyway sometime mid 1945 .. I tend to agree.
Two targets Tsiton and Tsingtao I see with the "!" and will fall quickly to the Allied hoards. Tsintsin is at the end of the open terrain and maybe the stopping point?

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Whoops not Tsintsin, I meant Tientsin[:D]

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Thanks guys, good comments there.

Correct Dave, its the points that will be an issue as the Allied monster rampages through China.

You are also spot on about Tsintsin. It is now heavily fortified with good levels of supply and a combined arms Corps of 2000 AV. Judging by detection levels Mike appears to have had a good look.

His air and navy have been strangely quiet over the last week. In part that has to be due to losses but I also think Mike is contemplating opening another sector of advance. With the Russians stopped cold again I suspect he is thinking the Aleutians. I am already detecting heavy sig traffic and seeing CVs and APAs moving around Adak.

Really loving the Frank R at the moment. It is amazing how much of an impact this airframe has had but there is also the psychologically aspect as well. Mike won't dare bomb Japan in daylight at the moment largely due to this aircraft.


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With the numbers you are showing (3M supply, 4M Fuel, 1M Oil) in your empire you should be fine until '46 IF you do not run your fuel in your Navy.

Focus on getting as much of your fuel/oil back to the HI.
Disperse your supply as best you can in high fort bases.
Try and get as many of your support forces back to your defense as you can. Air Transport, subs, etc however you can.

Im thinking NJP72 is thinking the points will achieve 2:1 anyway sometime mid 1945 .. I tend to agree.
Two targets Tsiton and Tsingtao I see with the "!" and will fall quickly to the Allied hoards. Tsintsin is at the end of the open terrain and maybe the stopping point?

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I am posting in the middle of the night here in the US [8D]
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Whoops not Tsintsin, I meant Tientsin[:D]

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Thanks guys, good comments there.

Correct Dave, its the points that will be an issue as the Allied monster rampages through China.

You are also spot on about Tsintsin. It is now heavily fortified with good levels of supply and a combined arms Corps of 2000 AV. Judging by detection levels Mike appears to have had a good look.

His air and navy have been strangely quiet over the last week. In part that has to be due to losses but I also think Mike is contemplating opening another sector of advance. With the Russians stopped cold again I suspect he is thinking the Aleutians. I am already detecting heavy sig traffic and seeing CVs and APAs moving around Adak.

Really loving the Frank R at the moment. It is amazing how much of an impact this airframe has had but there is also the psychologically aspect as well. Mike won't dare bomb Japan in daylight at the moment largely due to this aircraft.


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Im thinking NJP72 is thinking the points will achieve 2:1 anyway sometime mid 1945 .. I tend to agree.
Two targets Tsiton and Tsingtao I see with the "!" and will fall quickly to the Allied hoards. Tsintsin is at the end of the open terrain and maybe the stopping point?


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All good Dave, I was talking about my typo in my previous post as I managed to confuse myself[:)] Not a difficult task!

All of these similar Chinese names are quite challenging.

Still the end result is the same- bases in open terrain = death by 4E bombers and allied armour. I think I am going to need quite a few sticky bombs before this month is out! I will see if Tom Hanks is available to conduct a tutorial for my digital warriors. Those flame tank battalions are not good for IJA morale!
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I am posting in the middle of the night here in the US [8D]
ORIGINAL: njp72

Whoops not Tsintsin, I meant Tientsin[:D]

ORIGINAL: njp72

Thanks guys, good comments there.

Correct Dave, its the points that will be an issue as the Allied monster rampages through China.

You are also spot on about Tsintsin. It is now heavily fortified with good levels of supply and a combined arms Corps of 2000 AV. Judging by detection levels Mike appears to have had a good look.

His air and navy have been strangely quiet over the last week. In part that has to be due to losses but I also think Mike is contemplating opening another sector of advance. With the Russians stopped cold again I suspect he is thinking the Aleutians. I am already detecting heavy sig traffic and seeing CVs and APAs moving around Adak.

Really loving the Frank R at the moment. It is amazing how much of an impact this airframe has had but there is also the psychologically aspect as well. Mike won't dare bomb Japan in daylight at the moment largely due to this aircraft.





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There are some different rules for Soviet/Allied cooperation.

It has to do with hard coded Soviet bases, not conquered Manchuko/Chinese/Korea ones.

It may cause headaches to for the Allies looking forward.

Good luck!!!
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Have you been able to start the upgrade process for Kaiten Iboats since you are now into Dec of 44?
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