Nelson, Wellington and.. er Warspite (God help us)

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Aurelian

ORIGINAL: Zorch

England expects that Warspite will do his duty and smite the Corsican Ogre.

Say Wut?

signed

The Corsican Ogre.

Duke of Wellington

Hey shortarse - get the ^&*! off my thread!

Signed

The Iron Duke

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Ostwindflak

Each stack can supply itself for a short time with the supplies it can hold onboard. Since the cargo holds in warships are rated as "tiny", the longer you are out at sea/the further you move from a supply base (port), the faster the cohesion and supplies will diminish. A transport Squadron will usually have ships that have "Large" cargo holds. These combined with your warships will allow a fleet to stay out to sea for much longer periods of time and also allow them to sail a lot further and not lose cohesion and supply as fast.

Think of it in terms of a fleet heading from Portsmouth to say Malta in game. They can do it on their own without dedicated transport ships, but when they arrive they will most likely be in such bad shape that it will take several turns for their cohesion/hits/supplies to replenish before the fleet is of any use to you.

warspite1

Okay, well I'll just go with it and keep a close eye on supply so that I don't get caught out.....

[loki100]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Ostwindflak

Each stack can supply itself for a short time with the supplies it can hold onboard. Since the cargo holds in warships are rated as "tiny", the longer you are out at sea/the further you move from a supply base (port), the faster the cohesion and supplies will diminish. A transport Squadron will usually have ships that have "Large" cargo holds. These combined with your warships will allow a fleet to stay out to sea for much longer periods of time and also allow them to sail a lot further and not lose cohesion and supply as fast.

Think of it in terms of a fleet heading from Portsmouth to say Malta in game. They can do it on their own without dedicated transport ships, but when they arrive they will most likely be in such bad shape that it will take several turns for their cohesion/hits/supplies to replenish before the fleet is of any use to you.

warspite1

Okay, well I'll just go with it and keep a close eye on supply so that I don't get caught out.....

you'll see when supply is under 100%, There is a supply icon for each stack and it goes into the red as supply dips from 100% to 0% - same for ammo

Now don't tell anybody but heres a secret advanced tip [8D]

as fleets usually have more organic supply than they need, and those with large transports especially so. You can use them to support land operations. Basically the land force sends an empty supply wagon out to the fleet - it replenishes from the fleet surplus and can be returned to shore. So over 3 turns an army that has no easy access to supply can resupply from the sea.

Its not infallible - at some stage the supply stock in the fleet will run down, or the fleet encounters a storm etc but its one of the ways in which naval supremacy enables land operations. This trick is standard play in AJE and PoN due to the low supply in some regions but pretty handy in WoN

[Zorch]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Aurelian

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Turn 1
January 1-7 1805

Armies and Corps

It *is* important. Whatever you do, don't get Moore killed.

warspite1

I have issued orders for General Moore to be taken to a safe-house in Central London and, upon arrival, for him to be wrapped up in cotton wool until 1816.

Under guard of a crack team of civil servants.

[Aurelian]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Aurelian

ORIGINAL: Zorch

England expects that Warspite will do his duty and smite the Corsican Ogre.

Say Wut?

signed

The Corsican Ogre.

Duke of Wellington

Hey shortarse - get the ^&*! off my thread!

Signed

The Iron Duke

"I used to say of him [Napoleon] that his presence on the field made the difference of forty thousand men."


"In this age, in past ages, in any age, Napoleon."

The Duke of Wellington's response on who he thought was the greatest general of all time.


Take that You Rusty Duc.

[IdahoNYer]

Well Warspite, I too took the plunge and took advantage of the Easter sale. Although I was on the fence, and your trials with updating the patch almost pushed me off.....but your AAR has brought me into the fold!

Appreciate the AAR - keep it rolling!

[warspite1]

Turn 1
January 1-7 1805

British Army and the Royal Navy

British Army

Okay we'll leave the navy for the moment and move onto the small British Army. I have to say, the British Army may be small, but its a wonderful sight to behold! Those names - the Union Brigade [&o], the regimental system [&o], the King's German Legion [&o], ohhhh I need a lie down to recover.

So lets use the main British Army to try and make sense of the rules that pertain to land units. The army is commanded by The Grand Old Duke of York - you know, he of 10,000 men fame - and was for the bulk of the Napoleonic Wars. He is a 3-star general but his ratings are abysmal. Presumably this reflects the fact he had an 'administrative' role and not a combat command?

The 'English Home Army' is based in Winchester at the start of the game and consists of 24 Units.

As we found with the naval units, some of these Units will be further divided into Elements.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: IdahoNYer

Well Warspite, I too took the plunge and took advantage of the Easter sale. Although I was on the fence, and your trials with updating the patch almost pushed me off.....but your AAR has brought me into the fold!

Appreciate the AAR - keep it rolling!

warspite1

Hi there. Well its certainly not going to be an easy game to learn, but hopefully it will be rewarding! If you have any tips or comment as you play the game please let me know.

[Aurelian]

If you're playing with no attrition unless you move, don't move the army with harsh weather. You'll take a lot of hits.

If you're playing with historical attrition, you *must* have a unit on a depot to get replacements.

Either way, they can't move if you want them to get replacements.

You also recover cohesion by not moving.

And make sure the posture is set to passive. (green color). That setting has the best chance of getting replacements.

See page 116-117 of the manual. IIRC, the percentages are cumulative.

[ess1]

Many thanks to Warspite and everyone else for these posts. Enjoyable and rewarding reading.
@Warspite - Pleased you are playing GB. Who knows, if we had failed at Waterloo we could have had The EU sooner[X(]

OUT OUT OUT

[Aurelian]

ORIGINAL: ess1

Many thanks to Warspite and everyone else for these posts. Enjoyable and rewarding reading.
@Warspite - Pleased you are playing GB. Who knows, if we had failed at Waterloo we could have had The EU sooner[X(]

OUT OUT OUT

I wonder if he knows that the Iron Duke was...... Irish? [:D]

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Aurelian

ORIGINAL: ess1

Many thanks to Warspite and everyone else for these posts. Enjoyable and rewarding reading.
@Warspite - Pleased you are playing GB. Who knows, if we had failed at Waterloo we could have had The EU sooner[X(]

OUT OUT OUT

I wonder if he knows that the Iron Duke was...... Irish? [:D]

warspite1

I wouldn't tell the Duke that if I were you [;)]

If you removed the Irish (and the Scottish) from the British Army, you would not have much of an army to speak of - have a look at the list of Generals from WWII.....

[warspite1]

(cont from Post 47)

Turn 1
January 1-7 1805

British Army and the Royal Navy

British Army

The first unit in the Stack is Major General Rowland Hill. His Unit contains a number of Elements (nine) - and these are split into:

- Brigades and Battalions
1st Brigade - 1/92 Highlanders, 1/91 Argyllshire, 1/42 Royal Highland
1st KGL Brigade - 1st Light Bn, 2nd Light Bn
Williams Battery - made up of three artillery batteries

The 1st British Infantry Division also contains two infantry brigades and an artillery component. A general (Colville) is in charge of this division but does not have his own Unit. What is the significance of this?

[Aurelian]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

(cont from Post 47)

Turn 1
January 1-7 1805

British Army and the Royal Navy

British Army

The first unit in the Stack is Major General Rowland Hill. His Unit contains a number of Elements (nine) - and these are split into:

- Brigades and Battalions
1st Brigade - 1/92 Highlanders, 1/91 Argyllshire, 1/42 Royal Highland
1st KGL Brigade - 1st Light Bn, 2nd Light Bn
Williams Battery - made up of three artillery batteries

The 1st British Infantry Division also contains two infantry brigades and an artillery component. A general (Colville) is in charge of this division but does not have his own Unit. What is the significance of this?

He is commanding the division. If that unit is with him, it won't suffer any penalties.

Your 1* leaders are division commanders. Unlike other games in the Ageod line, you don't need them to combine units into divisions. Nor do you need them to build divisions when you get that ability.

Your 2* leaders are corps commanders. When you get corps.

Your 3* leaders are, you guessed it, army commanders. Though there is no penalty to have a 3* as a corps commander. (Except to his ego.)

The left picture shows the division with Suchet. The right hand is if it is alone.

If the division was in Suchet's stack, but not merged with him, it would still rate a 298.

So it pays to have your 1* leaders merged with a unit

[warspite1]

Thanks - that's helpful. So back to the British Army, presumably Colville (because he hasn't got a separate Unit counter) cannot be separated from his division? Also, if I wanted to, could I put General Halkett in charge of the 1st British Division? I have tried dragging and dropping but nothing is happening and I don't know if its because its against the rules or I am just doing it wrong.

[warspite1]

Turn 1
January 1-7 1805

British Army and the Royal Navy

British Army

Divisions and Corps are not available to anyone but France at the start of the game. Army Reform needs to be passed before the others can purchase these. As seen above there are "divisional units" in existence but these are 'remnants of the old military system'. They should not be broken up because they cannot be re-formed.

I won't look at these further until Army Reform is chosen.

[Ostwindflak]

If the Generals are the same rank (1 star or 2 star Generals etc.) than the commander of a stack will be dictated by their Seniority. If you put a 2 star General into a stack that is currently commanded by a 1 Star General, the 2 Star will become the stack leader (even if the 1 star General has more seniority than the 2 star and this can happen sometimes).

If Colville's stack is actually designated as a Division (meaning it is the 1 actual formed division you start the game with, do not break it up. You will not be able to reform it again until you do military reforms later in the game). There could be a couple of reasons why you can not move Halkett. Without a screen shot it is hard to tell. [:)]

[Aurelian]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Thanks - that's helpful. So back to the British Army, presumably Colville (because he hasn't got a separate Unit counter) cannot be separated from his division? Also, if I wanted to, could I put General Halkett in charge of the 1st British Division? I have tried dragging and dropping but nothing is happening and I don't know if its because its against the rules or I am just doing it wrong.

You can split Colville from the division, but.....

Do *NOT* split him. It will break up the division. What you normally do is click on the tent icon then the split unit icon. (I just loaded a game and split him. So DON'T DO IT!!!)


Halkett has less seniority than Coleville, so he can't

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Aurelian

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Thanks - that's helpful. So back to the British Army, presumably Colville (because he hasn't got a separate Unit counter) cannot be separated from his division? Also, if I wanted to, could I put General Halkett in charge of the 1st British Division? I have tried dragging and dropping but nothing is happening and I don't know if its because its against the rules or I am just doing it wrong.

You can split Colville from the division, but.....

Do *NOT* split him. It will break up the division. What you normally do is click on the tent icon then the split unit icon. (I just loaded a game and split him. So DON'T DO IT!!!)

You can move the division to Halkett. But if he has a red bar across his picture, that means he can't move until unlocked.

warspite1

So I just tried giving Halkett Divisional Command - and his rating went horribly bad..... that looks like a rubbish thing to do!

[Aurelian]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Aurelian

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Thanks - that's helpful. So back to the British Army, presumably Colville (because he hasn't got a separate Unit counter) cannot be separated from his division? Also, if I wanted to, could I put General Halkett in charge of the 1st British Division? I have tried dragging and dropping but nothing is happening and I don't know if its because its against the rules or I am just doing it wrong.

You can split Colville from the division, but.....

Do *NOT* split him. It will break up the division. What you normally do is click on the tent icon then the split unit icon. (I just loaded a game and split him. So DON'T DO IT!!!)

You can move the division to Halkett. But if he has a red bar across his picture, that means he can't move until unlocked.

warspite1

So I just tried giving Halkett Divisional Command - and his rating went horribly bad..... that looks like a rubbish thing to do!

His ratings will return next turn.