Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - No MM yet

[Lokasenna]

Forces heading for Rahaeng.

[Lokasenna]

And those heading for Chiang Mai.

[Lokasenna]

And forces that I've felt compelled to rest up. I wish I had them available for the push through, but I absolutely need fresh troops for later.

[Lokasenna]

Banda / New Guinea - June 23, 1944

Lots of aerial tangles here. Mostly me sweeping bases to keep him from basing too many bombers up front. I want the ocean and beaches to belong to my supply runners, and small cruiser/destroyer TFs tasked with intercepting any IJN presence or period bombardments.

His shift westward with the bombers sometimes spots ships moving between Perth and Darwin, outside of Truscott. I am debating landing some Seabees and building it up, but I don't really have the air support to spare on this side of New Guinea right now. There's plenty over at Rabaul, though... A few transports get damaged by Nells and Bettys flying from Waingapoe or perhaps even all the way up to Denpasar.

He is using 50-100 2E bombers to try to beat up my troops at Lautem, but it doesn't do much. It probably burns some of my supply, but it's not really an issue because I don't have the Support to do any attacks anyway. Sometime, I will. But I'm fine with this taking some time, so long as a lot of his assets are tied down.

Sometimes he tries sweeping my island bases north of Darwin, and I have to rest the CAP at times (entirely). This means that sometimes some Jills appear out of nowhere over some small TF. On the 18th, it's a legitimate attempt at a large raid, complete with Oscars on escort, but they all miss.

On the 19th, CL Abukuma and 6 DDs slip past CLs Leander/Caradoc and some DDs, and sink 3 AKs and 1 LST at Taberfane.

Overall, the story is that the P-47 on offense and Corsairs/Hellcats on defense are slowly extending our area of control here.

On June 22, Broome's airfield reaches level 8. This will be important in the next update...

[Lokasenna]

Banda / New Guinea - June 30, 1944

KB still hanging around the general area, to the north this time at Talaud-eilanden.

I didn't want to reveal my B-29s this early, as I had another plan for them, but I saw an opportunity to hit some ships in port without much in the way of defenses... so I took it. Combat reports combined (including aircraft numbers):

Japanese aircraft
A6M5d-S Zero x 16

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5d-S Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 15 damaged
B-29-1 Superfort: 4 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Bomb hits 10, on fire
BB Ise, Bomb hits 14, on fire
CA Ashigara, Bomb hits 2
DD Sawakaze, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS I-31, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Nokaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Tachikaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK Akitsushima Maru, Bomb hits 1

Port hits 7
Port fuel hits 2

So obviously, Ise is not sunk from the previous damage. I had hoped for some better results, but I would guess that 20 or so points of System damage caused to each BB by the time fires are put out. That's another few months of repairs.

Jacks and a bunch of search planes are based at Kendari. Lilys, Oscars, and Zeroes are based over at/near Koepang/Endeh. Lautem and Dili remain empty ever since they got pounded a month ago. Manado is only port 2(2), but AF 9(6). It has a bunch of fighters, some bombers, and some others... but mostly it's being used as a waypoint by the IJN on their way south or east. I'm not terribly anxious to continue advancing in that direction, but we'll see how things go once I pull the trigger on some other stuff.

[Lokasenna]

Burma - June 30, 1944

Rangoon's airfield reached level 9 on the next turn, so now just need to take the port from 5 to 9 for another 400 VPs.

Movement progress for the Chinese in the hex NW of Rahaeng is 27 miles. For the "Indian" stack outside of Moulmein, it is 25 miles. They should arrive a day after the Chinese.

At Chiang Mai for Japan:
1st Tank Division
3rd Tank Division
55th Division
21st Division
9th Tank Regiment
15th Tank Regiment
12th Tank Regiment

1 Brigade, 1 engineer regiment, 1 AA regiment, 2 FA regiments, 1 heavy ART battalion, 1 HQ, and RTA Cavalry Division


I'm bombing Moulmein daily from Pegu/Rangoon and Blair (PV-1's!). Mostly just waiting on troop movements to crack things open here. I am undecided on whether I will advance towards Bangkok, or cut straight towards Udon Thani and then Ubon. For now, troops are prepping for Bangkok and other targets in that direction, for the small good that matters in combat.

[Lokasenna]

CENTPAC - June 30, 1944

Kusaie finally taken. Still bombing the Marshalls daily with USMC B-25s, A-20s, and TBMs. Now moving supply and AvSupp to Kusaie, will begin doing the daily bombings on Ponape at some point. In employment parlance, the stuff here is just "busy work." I do have to be wary of a potential KB ambush of my CVEs, which would put a major crimp in my plans for the Pacific, but once Ailinglaplap is up and running we should be fine. I haven't seen any IJN ships try to run supply this direction for about a month.

[Lokasenna]

Score - June 30, 1944

Allied VPs: +1330 (about 790 of this is IJ aircraft, about 400 in LCU VPs)
Japan VPs: +529 (about 420 is aircraft, the rest is ships)
Ratio: 1.093 against, a change of +.018. Smallest change in a while.

June 30 marked the 30th straight day of positive VPs for me, but the streak ended on July 1...

This period actually had me losing ground against the goal of getting to a 2:1 aircraft loss ratio.

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

Banda / New Guinea - June 30, 1944

So obviously, Ise is not sunk from the previous damage. I had hoped for some better results, but I would guess that 20 or so points of System damage caused to each BB by the time fires are put out. That's another few months of repairs.

Based on tests I did bombing BBs I think these are out for the war, even assuming they can be transferred to a big shipyard for repairs. [8D]

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: obvert

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

Banda / New Guinea - June 30, 1944

So obviously, Ise is not sunk from the previous damage. I had hoped for some better results, but I would guess that 20 or so points of System damage caused to each BB by the time fires are put out. That's another few months of repairs.

Based on tests I did bombing BBs I think these are out for the war, even assuming they can be transferred to a big shipyard for repairs. [8D]

I think so too. They didn't hit 50+ Sys in the damage report, but I know Ise and Nagato both have flooding damage from before (Ise 2 torpedoes plus bombs for heavy fires/heavy damage, Nagato 1 torpedo plus bombs for heavy fires). The fact that neither have 'heavy damage' listed means all damage categories are under 50, however I would expect Ise to be somewhere in the 30s for float and/or engine. That alone will would a year to fix if it were the only ship in a size 50+ yard. He doesn't have many of those - he hasn't expanded Soerabaja much, and Singapore remains a size 50 I think. Manila likewise under 50. Hong Kong at 50, but getting bombed sometimes.

Unfortunately, them being out for the war means I won't get the chance to harvest their VPs (most likely). I think Ise is definitely out for the war. Nagato might make it back in sometime in mid-late 1945. In my experience, 50-ish Sys damage takes about 7-8 months to fix. So if they hit 30-40, maybe, we're talking 4-5 months minimum. Plus transit times, plus any major damage, which is why I think I might see Nagato again but not Ise. With Yamato, Yamashiro, and Hyuga all sunk that means I'm looking at 4 Kongos, Musashi, Fuso, and Mutsu for his operable BB strength. Not too scary. He uses the Kongos a lot. One day I'll sink them.


I may do some semi-daily updates since turns are moving slow. MM is finishing up on some school things. I'm plenty busy on my own and could spend the time doing other things, but this is more fun. On a side note, this is definitely me:
http://www.ted.com/talks/tim_urban_insi ... rastinator

After watching that, I watched about 4 more...and then I read his latest blog post on cryonics. Took over an hour. I didn't get much "done" during that time. Perfect example.

[Crackaces]

I noticed a yellow "!" at Ramree Island .. you might push more supply here as well as Rangoon .. I find
it propagates better. I know usually you use Ramree Island to push supply attacking Rangoon but filling
these two locations seems to me help get supplies even over as far as Bangkok ..

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

I noticed a yellow "!" at Ramree Island .. you might push more supply here as well as Rangoon .. I find
it propagates better. I know usually you use Ramree Island to push supply attacking Rangoon but filling
these two locations seems to me help get supplies even over as far as Bangkok ..

That actually occurred because I'm pulling out of Ramree. I no longer need it. I'm using some xAPs and LSTs to load up the troops there - faster than walking.

I did have periodic supply issues until I took Rangoon, but now that I have it (and Blair), he isn't challenging any of my supply convoys on the way in. Middle of July now and I've got 300K supply at Rangoon, with more coming every few days.

Supply actually flows fairly well between Rangoon and Bangkok once you have the area all cleared. I think it's because of the road from Moulmein to the rails at Uttaradit/Pisanuloke. I've marched all the way to Vinh so far in that game and only had supply issues on a couple of days after mounting an attack.

The only area in Burma that I'm still somewhat concerned about supplies is Lashio/Myitkyina. I'm still unable to use bases in this area for aerial operations over western China, should I choose to do that (like bombing more industry). I'm not sure I've had Rangoon for long enough for the supply to make its way north, though.

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: obvert

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

Banda / New Guinea - June 30, 1944

So obviously, Ise is not sunk from the previous damage. I had hoped for some better results, but I would guess that 20 or so points of System damage caused to each BB by the time fires are put out. That's another few months of repairs.

Based on tests I did bombing BBs I think these are out for the war, even assuming they can be transferred to a big shipyard for repairs. [8D]

I think so too. They didn't hit 50+ Sys in the damage report, but I know Ise and Nagato both have flooding damage from before (Ise 2 torpedoes plus bombs for heavy fires/heavy damage, Nagato 1 torpedo plus bombs for heavy fires). The fact that neither have 'heavy damage' listed means all damage categories are under 50, however I would expect Ise to be somewhere in the 30s for float and/or engine. That alone will would a year to fix if it were the only ship in a size 50+ yard. He doesn't have many of those - he hasn't expanded Soerabaja much, and Singapore remains a size 50 I think. Manila likewise under 50. Hong Kong at 50, but getting bombed sometimes.

Unfortunately, them being out for the war means I won't get the chance to harvest their VPs (most likely). I think Ise is definitely out for the war. Nagato might make it back in sometime in mid-late 1945. In my experience, 50-ish Sys damage takes about 7-8 months to fix. So if they hit 30-40, maybe, we're talking 4-5 months minimum. Plus transit times, plus any major damage, which is why I think I might see Nagato again but not Ise. With Yamato, Yamashiro, and Hyuga all sunk that means I'm looking at 4 Kongos, Musashi, Fuso, and Mutsu for his operable BB strength. Not too scary. He uses the Kongos a lot. One day I'll sink them.


I may do some semi-daily updates since turns are moving slow. MM is finishing up on some school things. I'm plenty busy on my own and could spend the time doing other things, but this is more fun. On a side note, this is definitely me:
http://www.ted.com/talks/tim_urban_insi ... rastinator

After watching that, I watched about 4 more...and then I read his latest blog post on cryonics. Took over an hour. I didn't get much "done" during that time. Perfect example.

Self-reflective research! [:D]

[Crackaces]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

I noticed a yellow "!" at Ramree Island .. you might push more supply here as well as Rangoon .. I find
it propagates better. I know usually you use Ramree Island to push supply attacking Rangoon but filling
these two locations seems to me help get supplies even over as far as Bangkok ..

That actually occurred because I'm pulling out of Ramree. I no longer need it. I'm using some xAPs and LSTs to load up the troops there - faster than walking.

I did have periodic supply issues until I took Rangoon, but now that I have it (and Blair), he isn't challenging any of my supply convoys on the way in. Middle of July now and I've got 300K supply at Rangoon, with more coming every few days.

Supply actually flows fairly well between Rangoon and Bangkok once you have the area all cleared. I think it's because of the road from Moulmein to the rails at Uttaradit/Pisanuloke. I've marched all the way to Vinh so far in that game and only had supply issues on a couple of days after mounting an attack.

The only area in Burma that I'm still somewhat concerned about supplies is Lashio/Myitkyina. I'm still unable to use bases in this area for aerial operations over western China, should I choose to do that (like bombing more industry). I'm not sure I've had Rangoon for long enough for the supply to make its way north, though.


EDIT: does he even have anything else to invade with?

Ok this seems to make sense now ..

My thought was to always keep Ramree X2+ so supply from Rangoon would not go northward and westward .. there seems to be a total limit of how much is propagated from any base
I do wonder if opening the road to China is a part of that limit or just an abstract add of supplies into china if the road is open?
Anyway moot point if enough supplies are moving where you need it ..

NICE! Things are going well here in Burma!

[Lokasenna]

I'm not sure why that "EDIT" made it into the post here, instead of in a different thread [:'(]

[Yaab]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

I noticed a yellow "!" at Ramree Island .. you might push more supply here as well as Rangoon .. I find
it propagates better. I know usually you use Ramree Island to push supply attacking Rangoon but filling
these two locations seems to me help get supplies even over as far as Bangkok ..

That actually occurred because I'm pulling out of Ramree. I no longer need it. I'm using some xAPs and LSTs to load up the troops there - faster than walking.

I did have periodic supply issues until I took Rangoon, but now that I have it (and Blair), he isn't challenging any of my supply convoys on the way in. Middle of July now and I've got 300K supply at Rangoon, with more coming every few days.

Supply actually flows fairly well between Rangoon and Bangkok once you have the area all cleared. I think it's because of the road from Moulmein to the rails at Uttaradit/Pisanuloke. I've marched all the way to Vinh so far in that game and only had supply issues on a couple of days after mounting an attack.

The only area in Burma that I'm still somewhat concerned about supplies is Lashio/Myitkyina. I'm still unable to use bases in this area for aerial operations over western China, should I choose to do that (like bombing more industry). I'm not sure I've had Rangoon for long enough for the supply to make its way north, though.

I don't think supplies can move from Rangoon northwards. Rangoon is the biggest port in the Burma rail matrix which means 70-85% of your supplies in Burma will accumulate automatically in Rangoon. If you ship supplies to Rangoon they will just sit there waiting... to be exported by ships. In order to move them north you will have to up the supply demand at Lashio or Myitkyina, stockpile supply there or move a command HQ to Lashio or Myitkyina to gather 20,000 supplies there.

Command HQ seems to override the automatic supply accumulation in the biggest port thing. The HQ tries to gather 20,000 at all times. The one thing I do not know if the command HQ robs other bases from supplies needed duitfully by them or it only gathers all surplus supply in a given region.

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: Yaab

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

I noticed a yellow "!" at Ramree Island .. you might push more supply here as well as Rangoon .. I find
it propagates better. I know usually you use Ramree Island to push supply attacking Rangoon but filling
these two locations seems to me help get supplies even over as far as Bangkok ..

That actually occurred because I'm pulling out of Ramree. I no longer need it. I'm using some xAPs and LSTs to load up the troops there - faster than walking.

I did have periodic supply issues until I took Rangoon, but now that I have it (and Blair), he isn't challenging any of my supply convoys on the way in. Middle of July now and I've got 300K supply at Rangoon, with more coming every few days.

Supply actually flows fairly well between Rangoon and Bangkok once you have the area all cleared. I think it's because of the road from Moulmein to the rails at Uttaradit/Pisanuloke. I've marched all the way to Vinh so far in that game and only had supply issues on a couple of days after mounting an attack.

The only area in Burma that I'm still somewhat concerned about supplies is Lashio/Myitkyina. I'm still unable to use bases in this area for aerial operations over western China, should I choose to do that (like bombing more industry). I'm not sure I've had Rangoon for long enough for the supply to make its way north, though.

I don't think supplies can move from Rangoon northwards. Rangoon is the biggest port in the Burma rail matrix which means 70-85% of your supplies in Burma will accumulate automatically in Rangoon. If you ship supplies to Rangoon they will just sit there waiting... to be exported by ships. In order to move them north you will have to up the supply demand at Lashio or Myitkyina, stockpile supply there or move a command HQ to Lashio or Myitkyina to gather 20,000 supplies there.

Command HQ seems to override the automatic supply accumulation in the biggest port thing. The HQ tries to gather 20,000 at all times. The one thing I do not know if the command HQ robs other bases from supplies needed duitfully by them or it only gathers all surplus supply in a given region.

Extra supplies will accumulate in Rangoon, yes, but it should ship supplies out as needed, just like normal, to bases farther north in Burma. The same thing happens with Singapore, for example - supply pools there like crazy, but it does also ship out. The trouble in Burma is that the supply draw is limited, and especially limited in monsoon season. I started building forts again at Myitkyina, for example, because it increases the supply draw limit and it was faster than building another level of airfield.

Also, Command HQs try to accumulate 25,000 I thought.

[Lokasenna]

Just completed the month of July. A couple of nuggets before I post up summaries (I need to do all the screenshots still):

1) I have been informed that the IJAAF now has CV-capable planes, and verified that the Ki-74 Stella is indeed available 44/7. I went ahead and checked the units that can upgrade to it - seems like FBs and LBs, but no fighters. So I won't have to worry about 81-plane fighter units, at least.

2) Does anyone know, for sure, that Chinese respawns will occur at Chengtu if Chungking is in Japanese hands? I know the manual says this, but I really, really need to know.

[savelius2]

The Chengtu thing just happened in the NJP vs Wargmr game. You can check it out in either thread.

[Mike McCreery]

ORIGINAL: savelius2

The Chengtu thing just happened in the NJP vs Wargmr game. You can check it out in either thread.

It will happen the turn after you take the city and dump all of the available troops in about 7 days.

Avoiding overstacking is impossible.

I had no idea until it started happening.