OT: The mother of all wargames is impossible to play

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: rustysi

SPI games, including War in the East

Have many SPI games, including the two (I think ETO and PTO) that you can put together and play the whole war. Plans are to set them up when I retire. Need two rooms for the maps though.[:D]

warspite1

rustyi, if you want to play the whole war I would recommend World In Flames (WIF) instead. Pre-WIF I played the ETO and PTO and yes, they were really good games to play. However because of the scale, there are various amendments you have to make if you combine the games. However WIF has the advantage that it is designed to be played as the whole war and so there are no such fiddly things to attend to.

The other advantage with WIF is the counter content and detail - particularly for ships (where you play with every ship from light cruiser up (+ some "what-if" units too) and the air units which are all named and in excellent colour!

[rustysi]

Was always interested in that game, but AFAIK there's no AI at the moment. Yes, I understand an AI opponent is not very accomplished, but... Not that I expect to find an opponent for the other game either, but if I have to play my head-to-head I'd rather do it on a board. BTW I own one rather good, if simple, solitaire game (I believe its by SPI). Its called Operation Olympic, which as the name implies, is the invasion of Kyushu. You play the Allies, who else. The rules for Japan are simple and straight forward... Banzai!!![:D] Now where did I put that?

[Zorch]

ORIGINAL: rustysi

Was always interested in that game, but AFAIK there's no AI at the moment. Yes, I understand an AI opponent is not very accomplished, but... Not that I expect to find an opponent for the other game either, but if I have to play my head-to-head I'd rather do it on a board. BTW I own one rather good, if simple, solitaire game (I believe its by SPI). Its called Operation Olympic, which as the name implies, is the invasion of Kyushu. You play the Allies, who else. The rules for Japan are simple and straight forward... Banzai!!![:D] Now where did I put that?

I enjoyed Operation Olympic, too. They did another solitaire game about the Battle of the Atlantic called 'Wolfpack' that could have been better.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: rustysi

Was always interested in that game, but AFAIK there's no AI at the moment. Yes, I understand an AI opponent is not very accomplished, but... Not that I expect to find an opponent for the other game either, but if I have to play my head-to-head I'd rather do it on a board. BTW I own one rather good, if simple, solitaire game (I believe its by SPI). Its called Operation Olympic, which as the name implies, is the invasion of Kyushu. You play the Allies, who else. The rules for Japan are simple and straight forward... Banzai!!![:D] Now where did I put that?

warspite1

Sorry I was not talking about MWIF the computer game. You mentioned setting the ETO/PTO boardgame up when you retire, and so I was referring to the boardgame version of WIF as a possible alternative.

[ndworl]

ORIGINAL: Zorch

ORIGINAL: pontiouspilot

This looks like a little cousin to SPI's "War in Europe". I managed to get several years into that monster. It filled the whole rumpus room. I can't remember if it was a jealous girlfriend or an over indulged cat that finished it off. I found that even with a whole room I had to chop the top half of the Scandinavian countries.

There is a computer version of War in Europe, if you didn't already know. Unfortunately no AI.

I played the original War in Europe on a couple of notice boards set up on trestles, in the early 1980s when I was in the army. I have played the computer version a few times. While I loved the scope and scale of the game, the ability for replay that computerisations gives just underlined the shortcomings of the game. In summary, while the convenience of the PC version made it more playable, I probably enjoyed the board game more, because everything was new and a risk.

[rustysi]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: rustysi

Was always interested in that game, but AFAIK there's no AI at the moment. Yes, I understand an AI opponent is not very accomplished, but... Not that I expect to find an opponent for the other game either, but if I have to play my head-to-head I'd rather do it on a board. BTW I own one rather good, if simple, solitaire game (I believe its by SPI). Its called Operation Olympic, which as the name implies, is the invasion of Kyushu. You play the Allies, who else. The rules for Japan are simple and straight forward... Banzai!!![:D] Now where did I put that?

warspite1

Sorry I was not talking about MWIF the computer game. You mentioned setting the ETO/PTO boardgame up when you retire, and so I was referring to the boardgame version of WIF as a possible alternative.

That is an option. Is it still in print? Don't like buying used games as I've had problems in the past with things missing, etc. Even after I was assured they were complete.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: rustysi

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: rustysi

Was always interested in that game, but AFAIK there's no AI at the moment. Yes, I understand an AI opponent is not very accomplished, but... Not that I expect to find an opponent for the other game either, but if I have to play my head-to-head I'd rather do it on a board. BTW I own one rather good, if simple, solitaire game (I believe its by SPI). Its called Operation Olympic, which as the name implies, is the invasion of Kyushu. You play the Allies, who else. The rules for Japan are simple and straight forward... Banzai!!![:D] Now where did I put that?

warspite1

Sorry I was not talking about MWIF the computer game. You mentioned setting the ETO/PTO boardgame up when you retire, and so I was referring to the boardgame version of WIF as a possible alternative.

That is an option. Is it still in print? Don't like buying used games as I've had problems in the past with things missing, etc. Even after I was assured they were complete.

warspite1

Oh yes! [:)]

http://www.a-d-g.com.au/

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I thought neither "Operation Olympic" nor "Wolfpack" were particularly interesting but (IIRC) "RAF" (Battle of Britian 1940) was a great solitaire game.

I ordered "War in the Pacific" early for some discounted price and ended up getting it something like 2 years later when my ship went to GITMO for refresher training. I don't even think I was assigned to that ship when I ordered it.
Kudos to the FPO.

[rustysi]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: rustysi

ORIGINAL: warspite1


warspite1

Sorry I was not talking about MWIF the computer game. You mentioned setting the ETO/PTO boardgame up when you retire, and so I was referring to the boardgame version of WIF as a possible alternative.

That is an option. Is it still in print? Don't like buying used games as I've had problems in the past with things missing, etc. Even after I was assured they were complete.

warspite1

Oh yes! [:)]

http://www.a-d-g.com.au/

Now you've done it.[:D] Seriously, thanks. Was always interested in the game, but for one reason or another never bothered.

Five full-colour maps portray all the theatres of war: Europe, Russia, Africa, the Middle East, India, Asia, the Pacific, the Atlantic and (most importantly) Australia.

What's up with that? Just kidding. Don't want to get our Aussie friends annoyed.[;)]