Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr Game over :-)

[ny59giants]

I look at those two base in clear terrain on top of screen shot on west coast of Korea without any troops. I would have landed there and cut off the peninsula. I would have made your logistical situation in China and Manchuria that much more difficult.

[njp72]

Thanks Guys for the comments and I agree with all the statements.

I too find it strange he has decided to land into the hornet's nest but his bold moves in the past have always paid dividends.

Still this is not a truly weakened Japan. There is still plenty of supply (close to two mil in the HIs at least), plenty of surface ships especially DDs and as the previous posts have displayed, thousands of decent airframes in the pool.

Perhaps Mike wanted to take some heat off the Russians but they are in no danger of collapse. The only reason I can think of for not heading further north was his fear of being cut off by surface fleets around the Korean coast line....

Anyway as Dave stated it is potentially good luck for me. I reviewed the combat results from last turn and can confirm 8 CVEs were hit last turn with 4 being goners.

I now have 60+ surface ships comprised of DDs, CLs, CAs, MTBs and even some BBs heading directly at his invasion fleet on numerous vectors to box him in. I suspect the majority of his fleet including his CVs will escape to the west but there are quite a few wounded ships which will have no chance of running.

Hopefully I can extract some revenge without paying too much of a price.

[PaxMondo]

I know what Nemo would do ...

[Lowpe]

Can you tell us how you plan to organize your navy at all for the counter stroke?

I wonder if this isn't a good place for midget subs from Moppo?

[njp72]

Well I'm not sure if there is a navy left after this turn!

He stayed at Saish To and the carnage was unbelievable. [X(] The combat replay was going for so long I had to speed it up.

My ships literally ran out of all types of ammo as the entire USN overwhelm them.

Casualties:

IJN sunk: 1 x BB, 2 x CAs, 2 x CLs, 10 x DDs (damaged ships too numerous to count)

USN: 6 x CVEs, 2 x CVLs, 6 x DDs, 20 x smaller craft ? x APAs/AKAs (damaged ships too numerous to count)

Both sides lost 250 aircraft each.

My fleet is now scattered and burnt out but there are thousands of aircraft to take their place.

Highlight of the battle below




[quote]ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Can you tell us how you plan to organize your navy at all for the counter stroke?

I wonder if this isn't a good place for midget subs from Moppo?

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[Lowpe]

Wow, you have spent the entire Japanese Navy from the time of China to now!

Amazing fight, curious to hear more.[&o]

If only the night surface attack could have been coordinated with yesterday's air attack. If only.[:(]

[ny59giants]

WOW!! [X(]

I would have to think long and hard and do even more thinking before I would put an Iowa Class BB in a TF full of CVEs. Yes, you want all of its AA, but you lose those nasty guns and speed being there. For your sake, I hope she was hurt badly as Shanghai isn't too far away.

[savelius2]

What an amazing game you have going.

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

WOW!! [X(]

I would have to think long and hard and do even more thinking before I would put an Iowa Class BB in a TF full of CVEs. Yes, you want all of its AA, but you lose those nasty guns and speed being there. For your sake, I hope she was hurt badly as Shanghai isn't too far away.

Not a major fan of either fleet composition, to be honest,but sometimes as Japan it comes down to what is left, unfortunately.

NJP, you should have showed us the combat summary too....I am hoping that that JFB eye candy tasted as good as it looks! Allied fleets are pretty good at escaping this late in the game.

[njp72]

I would have thought exactly the same but in this combat it turn out to be a pretty good play by Mike.

My BBs and most of the fleet concentrated on the CVEs and the Iowa BB only sustained superficial damage- not even a torpedo hit.

In return it mortally damaged one of my BBs with its deadly 16 inch guns.

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

WOW!! [X(]

I would have to think long and hard and do even more thinking before I would put an Iowa Class BB in a TF full of CVEs. Yes, you want all of its AA, but you lose those nasty guns and speed being there. For your sake, I hope she was hurt badly as Shanghai isn't too far away.

[njp72]

Thanks Savelius2, it is an amazing game and we have been lucky now to have two in a row.

Mike is a wonderful and very tough opponent who will once again have my measure but it is a lot of fun. [:)]

ORIGINAL: savelius2

What an amazing game you have going.

[njp72]

It has been an amazing two day battle and neither side is finished with each other yet.

4 US Fleet CVs were hit in the day's action with only 1 suffering major damage. 3 by kamikazes and 1 by a sub.

More subs, MTBs and midget subs are on the way. Everything will be expended except perhaps KB who will operate in the safety of the inland sea.

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Wow, you have spent the entire Japanese Navy from the time of China to now!

Amazing fight, curious to hear more.[&o]

If only the night surface attack could have been coordinated with yesterday's air attack. If only.[:(]

[savelius2]

How did things turn out? Very curious to see how this extremely aggressive invasion turned out for you and your opponent.

[njp72]

Hi Savelius2 good to see you are interested.

He has the island and I occasionally bombard it with BBs. He can't base aircraft on it and my smaller patrol craft, subs/midget subs, MTBs and mines blockade it. I suspect the Allies are regrouping and will be back in about a week.

All the action is on land at the moment as the Japanese and Russians fight a war of no mercy. I have detected a group of 50 US/Commonwealth units about to push into Manchuria to help the Ruskies [X(]

On top of that the Soviets scored their first decisive victory on land where they smashed one of my combined arms group and I lost about 250 Type 3 tanks.

Time to regroup and form the next line of defence before the Americans arrive.

Still its 45 so these things are to be expected.

ORIGINAL: savelius2

How did things turn out? Very curious to see how this extremely aggressive invasion turned out for you and your opponent.

[njp72]

Update time [:)] 15th Jan 45

Still plugging away and January has been relatively quiet after the bloodbath of Dec 44.

Happy with the points. I'm pretty sure I can get to Apr/May 45.

[njp72]

Russia- has been great fun and Mike has slowly been advancing.

Interestingly the IJA has managed to rally again after some massive battles and has commenced pushing back the Soviets. Rebuilt divisions from the Home Islands combined with arty, armour and air have been effective in halting the advance (Soviet air force no longer exists).

Now if the Allies don't intervene I could push him right back to the border again.[:)]

[njp72]

China- but of course the Allies are going to intervene and they are close after overrunning all the clear terrain in China.

In a couple of weeks a massive allied formation will start to surge into Manchuria and there is nothing I can do to stop him. Strong points are being prepared.

Any attempt to land on the coast of Korea, especially closer to the home islands would turn into a blood bath for both sides. I'm not sure he wants another repeat of Dec 44 but I could be wrong.

[njp72]

Economy/ aircraft pools/pilots - still remain very strong.

My invasion of Oz, India, Russia and running around with KB hasn't hurt my stockpiles in the Home Islands.

I'm more likely to be beaten on points than I am to run out of supplies at this stage. In saying that I do expect the economy to sharply worsen in the next few months when Mike gets serious about strat bombing.

Until then all good.

[ny59giants]

How is your supply situation outside of Japan (Korea, China, and Manchuria)? I see lots of yellow and red exclamation points in your screenshots.

[njp72]

Hi NY, supply in the Marianas, Kuriles and the islands close to Japan are fine.

Supply in China is terrible outside of Chungking due to the Allied navy blockade. I am purposefully hoarding supply in the Home Islands and only sending it where it can make a material difference - which is basically Korea and ensuring the smaller islands can conduct air operations.

I still suspect supply won't be an issue in the critical sectors until June 45 and by that stage I would have likely lost the war on points when I get steam rolled in Korea. The carnage during that journey will still be highly entertaining. [:)]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

How is your supply situation outside of Japan (Korea, China, and Manchuria)? I see lots of yellow and red exclamation points in your screenshots.