
Rumble in the Southwest witpqs-A vs Andav-J 2011-11-29 to 2017-02-08
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RE: 1944 December 17
Java Sea.


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RE: 1944 December 17
Philippines.


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RE: 1944 December 17
Okinawa.


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RE: 1944 December 17
Overview. You can see the courses for the British and American carriers to meet in two days.


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RE: 1944 December 17
It is looking very nice and I have been learning a lot.
It looks like you are going to clear out the Southern Resource Area fairly soon.
It looks like you are going to clear out the Southern Resource Area fairly soon.
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
RE: 1944 December 17
Yes. Palembang will see a full on attack from both sides in just a few days. Singapore I think will be clear by the new year - oddly what I predicted back in something like August '44. And even Cocos Islands won't be too far behind. Just waiting for the land troops to be ready. Have to check every dot base for ghost ships, though!ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
It is looking very nice and I have been learning a lot.
It looks like you are going to clear out the Southern Resource Area fairly soon.
Philippines will take a long time as only minor forces will be diverted there. The major forces are moving on Japan!
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RE: 1944 December 17
For the undefended dot bases, why not just land a few troops from an APD and/or a SST? That should take care of the problem. You probably won't lose any squads, just get some squads damaged due to lack of preparedness. Then have LBA and/or a cruiser TF standing by.
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
RE: 1944 December 17
The Japanese have to take them early in the game because the Allies eventually will coma back and might use them as levers. But the Japanese are not going to come back at this point, so I don't want to expend the effort. If and where I have to I will, but there are already tons of things to do each turn.ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
For the undefended dot bases, why not just land a few troops from an APD and/or a SST? That should take care of the problem. You probably won't lose any squads, just get some squads damaged due to lack of preparedness. Then have LBA and/or a cruiser TF standing by.
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1944 December 18
1944 December 18
The Empire captured:
The Allies captured:
Allied forces CAPTURE Roxas !!!
There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:
There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:
Imperial Naval Bombardments
Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding Amami Oshima
Allied Ships Bombarding Amami Oshima
Allied Ships Bombarding Kume-jima
Allied Ships Bombarding Amami Oshima
Allied Ships Bombarding Kume-jima
Allied Ships Bombarding enemy troops at Nago
Allied Ships Bombarding Kume-jima
Allied Ships Bombarding enemy troops at Nago
Allied Ships Bombarding Kume-jima
Allied Ships Bombarding Kume-jima
Allied Ships Bombarding Amami Oshima
Our subs did it again!
Still maneuvering throughout China. Most plans are the same as mentioned previously, but there is one addition. I have been preparing and rearranging forces so that Kanhsien can be assaulted from the air before Kukong is first attacked. That will force the retreat path from Kukong to be toward Hengyang instead of toward Kanhsien. We have three para capable Bde for the job, one of them about half-strength. The medium bombers are being moved around so that all will be able to hit the target on D-Day. It's clear terrain with about 2,800 troops, 33 guns, and 83 AFV in 1 unit and has been under recon for some time now. The Lushai Bde, now at Samah and pending sea lift, will fly out of Kwangchowan with the 111th LRP Bde, while the 23rd LRP Bde will fly from Wuchow. The whole affair is still a few days off.
Our troops at Singapore are doing well, only the infantry need more recovery time. AV is 3,677. Tomorrow a division and a Bde will arrive at Palembang from the NW, without crossing river defenses. The forces at Praboemoelih will begin moving tomorrow. The day they are to cross the river, the infantry already there will attack in support.
Roxas is liberated.
More progress at Nago.
The Kume-Jima invasion lands tomorrow. An LST convoy is loading up additional supply to land ASAP as the combat convoys, while having adequate supply, are not large enough to carry ludicrous loads of supply. The 50th Ind.Mixed Brigade seems to be the only defender in residence.
The Takao invasion force should be three hexes from Takao tomorrow, and land the day after. Only the British fleet is spotted. The USN carriers remain unseen by the Imperials and will take up station one hex ahead of the invasion force.
China.

The Empire captured:
The Allies captured:
Allied forces CAPTURE Roxas !!!
There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:
There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:
Imperial Naval Bombardments
Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding Amami Oshima
Allied Ships Bombarding Amami Oshima
Allied Ships Bombarding Kume-jima
Allied Ships Bombarding Amami Oshima
Allied Ships Bombarding Kume-jima
Allied Ships Bombarding enemy troops at Nago
Allied Ships Bombarding Kume-jima
Allied Ships Bombarding enemy troops at Nago
Allied Ships Bombarding Kume-jima
Allied Ships Bombarding Kume-jima
Allied Ships Bombarding Amami Oshima
Our subs did it again!
Still maneuvering throughout China. Most plans are the same as mentioned previously, but there is one addition. I have been preparing and rearranging forces so that Kanhsien can be assaulted from the air before Kukong is first attacked. That will force the retreat path from Kukong to be toward Hengyang instead of toward Kanhsien. We have three para capable Bde for the job, one of them about half-strength. The medium bombers are being moved around so that all will be able to hit the target on D-Day. It's clear terrain with about 2,800 troops, 33 guns, and 83 AFV in 1 unit and has been under recon for some time now. The Lushai Bde, now at Samah and pending sea lift, will fly out of Kwangchowan with the 111th LRP Bde, while the 23rd LRP Bde will fly from Wuchow. The whole affair is still a few days off.
Our troops at Singapore are doing well, only the infantry need more recovery time. AV is 3,677. Tomorrow a division and a Bde will arrive at Palembang from the NW, without crossing river defenses. The forces at Praboemoelih will begin moving tomorrow. The day they are to cross the river, the infantry already there will attack in support.
Roxas is liberated.
The troops rest tomorrow.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Roxas (79,83)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 5683 troops, 42 guns, 28 vehicles, Assault Value = 198
Defending force 5670 troops, 51 guns, 51 vehicles, Assault Value = 100
Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 2
Allied adjusted assault: 144
Japanese adjusted defense: 10
Allied assault odds: 14 to 1 (fort level 2)
Allied forces CAPTURE Roxas !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), fatigue(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
444 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 20 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 17 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 14 (14 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 34 (34 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
119 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Assaulting units:
Torres Strait Battalion
14th NZ Brigade
Defending units:
2nd Amphibious Brigade
54th Construction Battalion
6th Air Division
1st Sasebo SNLF Coy
108th JAAF AF Bn
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More progress at Nago.
Recon shows 4 units remaining at Nago so I am not sure what to make of the "Unit(s) surrounded" message. Two divisions will be pulled off the beach now that the engineers are off the ships. Current stacking is >90,000 on a limit of 35,000.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Nago (95,65)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 42765 troops, 855 guns, 1272 vehicles, Assault Value = 1936
Defending force 13828 troops, 82 guns, 27 vehicles, Assault Value = 25
Allied adjusted assault: 821
Japanese adjusted defense: 13
Allied assault odds: 63 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
2659 casualties reported
Squads: 126 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 80 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 14 (7 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
172 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Assaulting units:
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion
193rd Tank Battalion
25th Infantry Division
5th Marine Division
194th Tank Battalion
40th Infantry Division
670th Tank Destroyer Battalion
77th Infantry Division
716th Tank Battalion
766th Tank Battalion
111th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
710th Tank Battalion
767th Tank Battalion
40th US Naval Construction Battalion
4th Pioneer Battalion
4th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
39th US Naval Construction Battalion
10th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
30th USN Naval Construction Regiment
11th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
26th USN Naval Construction Regiment
8th AmphTrac Engineer Battalion
868th Aviation Engineer Battalion
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
16th USN Naval Construction Regiment
31st USN Naval Construction Regiment
Defending units:
9th Ind.Mixed Brigade
45th Ind.Mixed Brigade
72nd Air Flotilla
31st Army
13th Base Force
13th Base Force Wiped Out at Nago by attrition!!!
Japanese Unit(s) surrounded at Nago
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The Kume-Jima invasion lands tomorrow. An LST convoy is loading up additional supply to land ASAP as the combat convoys, while having adequate supply, are not large enough to carry ludicrous loads of supply. The 50th Ind.Mixed Brigade seems to be the only defender in residence.
The Takao invasion force should be three hexes from Takao tomorrow, and land the day after. Only the British fleet is spotted. The USN carriers remain unseen by the Imperials and will take up station one hex ahead of the invasion force.
China.

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RE: 1944 December 18
Malay Peninsula & Sumatra.


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RE: 1944 December 18
Java Sea.


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RE: 1944 December 18
Philippines.


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RE: 1944 December 18
Okinawa.


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RE: 1944 December 18
At Nago, it is probably because you have control of all of the bases on the island and there is no retreat possible. I have seen it when there is more than one unit at a contested location.
It is looking very nice for you.
It is looking very nice for you.
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
RE: 1944 December 17
What do you think is left of the Japanese navy.
Everything seems to be going your way. Sad, but true.[;)]
Everything seems to be going your way. Sad, but true.[;)]
RE: 1944 December 18
Yes, that is basically what happens. You have to be patient and wear them down with well-rested units. People used to shock attack but that just results in more friendly casualties. Using units that get high disruption or fatigue is also counter productive.ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
At Nago, it is probably because you have control of all of the bases on the island and there is no retreat possible. I have seen it when there is more than one unit at a contested location.
It is looking very nice for you.
Meanwhile, I will draw down the combat forces and get the base operating. The damage is all repaired already and construction started on expanding the airfield. I still have to get air support in there. Not sure if I allocated it already - need to look around next turn. All of the fighters and other LBA will eventually move from Naha to Nago, and Naha will be used for B-29 groups.
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RE: 1944 December 17
Mostly new construction and ships that were repairing or guarding points north of Cam Ranh Bay when that hammer fell. Everything else got trapped, none broke blockade that I ever saw. Very little is left at Singapore and Cocos Islands.ORIGINAL: Lowpe
What do you think is left of the Japanese navy.
Everything seems to be going your way. Sad, but true.[;)]
In hindsight the key was the Pegu invasion, which both drew the IJN down there and got them into battles which left them totally unready to take on the USN when it ventured into the South China Sea. All hail the RN cruisers!
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RE: 1944 December 17
Everything? No. I think the Home Islands will be a bear to crack. We'll just have to see.
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RE: 1944 December 17
ORIGINAL: witpqs
Everything? No. I think the Home Islands will be a bear to crack. We'll just have to see.
Do you think you have to crack the home islands to achieve 2:1? It seems you have amassed quite a few VP's including a pending Singapore ..
The Plains of China offers a lot of VP's too ...
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
RE: 1944 December 17
ORIGINAL: Crackaces
ORIGINAL: witpqs
Everything? No. I think the Home Islands will be a bear to crack. We'll just have to see.
Do you think you have to crack the home islands to achieve 2:1? It seems you have amassed quite a few VP's including a pending Singapore ..
The Plains of China offers a lot of VP's too ...
That is my thought, too. Although I think getting the central Chinese plains might be tough.
I had my eye on another potential target.



