Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock
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RE: Disaster!
In an interesting naval exploit of daring, the 3 E's that were launched at Tokyo, skirmished a few times with PT Boats and finally left as aerial bait at Yokohama under their own discretion...when much to the surprise of the IJN Command Staff they decided to breakout and actually survived the Allied destroyer fleets and ended up south of Nagoya the following afternoon.
IJN Command sent them an order to disperse, and they did heading at flank speed in three different directions: the Bonins, the Kanoya, and to Daito Shoto.
And they actually survived. There is some small hope that perhaps two E's will reach Luzon and the other E will work around the western end of the Tsushima Straits.
This is a signal success. Every other E attempting to breakout of Yokohama has ended up sunk within 20 miles of the port.
The benefits of local decision making over top down orders.
IJN Command sent them an order to disperse, and they did heading at flank speed in three different directions: the Bonins, the Kanoya, and to Daito Shoto.
And they actually survived. There is some small hope that perhaps two E's will reach Luzon and the other E will work around the western end of the Tsushima Straits.
This is a signal success. Every other E attempting to breakout of Yokohama has ended up sunk within 20 miles of the port.
The benefits of local decision making over top down orders.
RE: Disaster!
More "Fleeeeeeeeeeeeeai", less "Banzaaaiiiiiiiii"
RE: Disaster!
And they actually survived. There is some small hope that perhaps two E's will reach Luzon and the other E will work around the western end of the Tsushima Straits
Success cannot be measured on just one scale but must be measured on it´s own merits.
RE: Disaster!
So how are the supplies holding up in your endgame scenario here? Are you still able to fill out depleted divisions and get new ones up to TOE as you battle on in the homeland?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill
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ORIGINAL: obvert
So how are the supplies holding up in your endgame scenario here? Are you still able to fill out depleted divisions and get new ones up to TOE as you battle on in the homeland?
I thought I was doing well, well enough for an end date of Jan 1, 1945 with plentiful rebuilding -- but for about the last month the Allies have stuck with an airfield destruction program. Almost every air field in western Honshu has been destroyed and destroyed by serious overkill.
The effect on my supplies has been alarming![X(] I don't think this is his intention, merely he is tired of my air force.
I have turned off most replacements with the exception of Type 3 tanks, AA guns, radar, and Artillery pieces of any size. Lots and lots of devices set to stockpile so I can turn on replacements for an Engineering unit and only replace the 20 or 25mm AA guns and radar. Heck, I am even stockpiling searchlights.[:D]
I have plentiful supply in the SRA, and to a lesser extent Luzon, and I am shipping it out every day in dribs and drabs. Almost all of it is aimed at feeding China, which has become a huge supply drain with all the planes there and all the troops there now. Didn't really expect that, and I can only shudder at what it would be like with an active Soviet.
I have 3 basically destroyed infantry divisions heading back to Shanghai, along with the 1st and 2nd Tank Divisions which are there unpacking. I plan to run them across in fast transports to Nagasaki area and then rebuild them.
I also repaired some Jack factories to boost production a little bit, hopefully not noticeable, since I have the engines for that beauty.
But other than that I have been pretty miserly with supply expenditures -- it is the lousy bombers. I guess the daily 10 BB bombardments didn't help either.
But the days of spending are over![:(] I will be eating rock soup before it is all over, especially if the Allies pursue an Industry attack against Korea and Manchuko (still pretty much untouched).
RE: Disaster!
ORIGINAL: obvert
So how are the supplies holding up in your endgame scenario here? Are you still able to fill out depleted divisions and get new ones up to TOE as you battle on in the homeland?
Really no more land unit reinforcements during the next 120 days. Artillery and Engineering only pretty much.
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ORIGINAL: Lowpe
ORIGINAL: obvert
So how are the supplies holding up in your endgame scenario here? Are you still able to fill out depleted divisions and get new ones up to TOE as you battle on in the homeland?
I thought I was doing well, well enough for an end date of Jan 1, 1945 with plentiful rebuilding -- but for about the last month the Allies have stuck with an airfield destruction program. Almost every air field in western Honshu has been destroyed and destroyed by serious overkill.
The effect on my supplies has been alarming![X(] I don't think this is his intention, merely he is tired of my air force.
I have turned off most replacements with the exception of Type 3 tanks, AA guns, radar, and Artillery pieces of any size. Lots and lots of devices set to stockpile so I can turn on replacements for an Engineering unit and only replace the 20 or 20mm AA guns and radar. Heck, I am even stockpiling searchlights.[:D]
I have plentiful supply in the SRA, and to a lesser extent Luzon, and I am shipping it out every day in dribs and drabs. Almost all of it is aimed at feeding China, which has become a huge supply drain with all the planes there and all the troops there now. Didn't really expect that, and I can only shudder at what it would be like with an active Soviet.
I have 3 basically destroyed infantry divisions heading back to Shanghai, along with the 1st and 2nd Tank Divisions which are there unpacking. I plan to run them across in fast transports to Nagasaki area and then rebuild them.
I also repaired some Jack factories to boost production a little bit, hopefully not noticeable, since I have the engines for that beauty.
But other than that I have been pretty miserly with supply expenditures -- it is the lousy bombers. I guess the daily 10 BB bombardments didn't help either.
But the days of spending are over![:(] I will be eating rock soup before it is all over, especially if the Allies pursue an Industry attack against Korea and Manchuko (still pretty much untouched).
Yeah it's not fun to watch. So much you coud do if you just had supply and places to fly the decent late war planes from, right? [:D][;)]
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill
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RE: Disaster!
Meanwhile, the Allies have over 50 million in supplies sitting at San Fran awaiting transport ships. [:D]
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ORIGINAL: obvert
Yeah it's not fun to watch. So much you coud do if you just had supply and places to fly the decent late war planes from, right? [:D][;)]
Holds for ships too. In fact, the greatest reason to subscribe to a fleet in being strategy & air force preservation is that by the end game your understanding of how the game works has so improved that you can trade off your ships & planes in a much better VP ratio and you have the supply to do so.
Did that make sense?
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ORIGINAL: ny59giants
Meanwhile, the Allies have over 50 million in supplies sitting at San Fran awaiting transport ships. [:D]
Always the ray of sunshine!
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September 5, 1944
A lone MTB causes much panic and many, many collisions.

A lone MTB causes much panic and many, many collisions.

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NW of Kanoya....
And the Tone is already weakened, by the loss of a 20cm forward battery that has never been repaired. What an evil fate.

And the Tone is already weakened, by the loss of a 20cm forward battery that has never been repaired. What an evil fate.

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Argh!!! A torpedo hit...too many darn torpedoes for Bunji to dodge them all.
Several 20cm hits on the South Dakota...scratching the paint job.

Several 20cm hits on the South Dakota...scratching the paint job.

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10 collisions! And then more... How big was that convoy?
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And the Tone's demise comes swiftly...


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I got confused on AARs and momentarily thought this was a different Tone in a different place.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
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A night time picture of all the action...


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The action is fast and furious. Two PB are sunk by wandering Fletchers, and then Avengers sortie in surprisingly large numbers (18) against a SC TF.


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The bombing in western Honshu is fast and furious! Relentless.
Hordes of Allied task forces are wandering around.....

Hordes of Allied task forces are wandering around.....

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