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RE: Manila Falls

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I returned for a second day here, but there simply is nothing left.

Recon always shows 2 repaired, even when they are rubbled it seems. Also it takes a day for the recon to catch up with the damage.



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I can confirm you will not be able to reduce any of those to 0. It always seems to hang at 2 although they are phantom points.

For me, you can get them down to "1". The 1 is a phantom - it seems to be an artifact of the code that is necessary for targeting or something. Just subtract 1 from the "repaired" total and that's what is actually there.
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RE: Manila Falls

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Thanks Wargamr and Lok! I have gotten some down to 1 I believe and the recon always shows 1 more than in reality.

CR: There have been several posts, usually by newer or low post count players, saying they want a historical match and not a silly west coast invasion and words like that. Nothing specific saying I am doing it, but then there was at least one reference to a current AAR and west coast invasion and how broken the game was. Not all in Opps Wanted, and the one mention was by somebody that posts occassionally but is often ignored.

I am hoping Jocke has a life and isn't as highly attuned to it as me!

Well, it will be entertaining no matter what![:)]
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RE: Manila Falls

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I don't have a life. :)

Well, I hope he doesn't pick up on anything. There's a fair chance that kinda stuff wouldn't clue him in, since he could take it as a reference to some other game that he isnt' following (and therefore assumes might involve West Coast shenanigans).

As to players who think the game is broken, what the heck? The fun is in the wildness turns the game can take. I underwent a pretty severe West Coast attack engineered by Panzerjaager Hortlund five years ago. It's was mindstretching and nerve wracking. He ended up backing down, but it's the most immense fun imagineable to play as the Allies against a radical and weird Japanese strategy.

So, best of luck to you (and to Jocke too, as I'm an equal opportunity follower of your fun match).
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RE: Manila Falls

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Dec 7, 1942

One year of war.

Allied subs are going to be tough in a month.

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RE: Manila Falls

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Ndeni.



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Allies lose 10 bombers, here and at Chittagong. Japan loses less than a handful of fighters. A good trade. Oscars are simply not great anti-bomber planes.
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RE: Manila Falls

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Just too funny.[:D] Scary, too, but really funny.

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Ha, ha! I guess I got Jocke to commit to the India campaign.[:D]
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RE: Manila Falls

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In just thinking out loud, I suspect this is Jocke's big move to avoid auto victory in 1943. I haven't pushed for
AV, I think we are around 3.3 to 1...but I suspect he is in position for a huge amphibious invasion to trap the Indian/Burma Army...or at the least to capture Chittagong and hopefully snowball the troops down the dirt road to Cox.

In planning the game, I heeded Alfred's sage advice on the 1944 auto victory and have tried to position myself for that.

One reason I didn't want to push really hard for the 1943 AV, is that would force Jocke to be wildly aggressive to avoid AV, and I would much rather have his forces here than say invading the SRA.

Hmm., I have land based air to counter. There are 15 destroyers and 2 CA and 2 CL still here, plus the minelaying subs and in general lots of other subs. I could possibly bring back the battleships, but why? I am planning on losing Burma oil in 1943, and oil isn't as huge in this game as in others -- generous scen 2 fuel, and no supply from refining.

I don't think I will counter with the cruisers, but rather strictly destroyers. Especially with the moonlight approaching 0 percent.

There is a division at Cox, half a division at Akyab, and a division digging forts on the road east of Akyab (forts 3). Ramree is lightly held, just dropped off most of a base force, 1/3rd of RTA division and a construction unit.

So, his forces are 7 hexes from Akyab and points to the north.

I wonder what he will do?





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RE: Manila Falls

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As to players who think the game is broken, what the heck? The fun is in the wildness turns the game can take. I underwent a pretty severe West Coast attack engineered by Panzerjaager Hortlund five years ago. It's was mindstretching and nerve wracking. He ended up backing down, but it's the most immense fun imagineable to play as the Allies against a radical and weird Japanese strategy.

This is a scenario 2 game...lots of goodies for Japan to experiment. But it is a game crikeys not a simulation. Supposed to be fun for both sides, right?[:)]

Massive operations at both ends of the map! I knew it.[:D]
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RE: Manila Falls

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A decent attack here. I have 6 infantry divisions, some decent artillery and armor backed up here. They will make for Chungking once the road block is gone...assuming I have Chengtu by then.

I have no idea where these Chinese troops will retreat to? In which case, it will take many more attacks before they surrender I suspect.

For you AFBs....I think if you can setup positions like this you can prolong China's survival. I am not sure how you go about doing it, but there you have it.



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RE: Manila Falls

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In the last 14 days I have thrown off 115,000 excess supplies. 230,000 a month. Perhaps close to 3,000,000 excess supply for a year...I don't think a lot of the supply is currently at risk. Olorin increased LI at games start...it was tough, but I should reap the rewards for the rest of the game.

I have no huge economic expansion plans on the chalkboard, at least until 3rd qtr 43 and that will be ramping up the end war fighters...the 46 fighters. Engines production is very strong...perhaps 300,000 more supply in 43 will be spent.

So, I have a chance of starting 1944 with over 7 million supply if I can play well.

Won't be easy, but it is doable. Plus, there is a chance if things go swimmingly, that I will be able to save much more in supply since the Chinese bombing campaign will wind down.
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And if your thingy goes well, you could capture a absolute shed load of supply and fuel!
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RE: Manila Falls

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Working on my turn, I will have it for a while even without Jocke's Bay of Bengal non-surprise surprise.[:'(]

I am thinking now about working torpedoes. I have really paid very little attention to sub threats, and need to get some Army squadrons up to speed for Jan 1. I may start pulling the Anns off the front lines in China and use them in choke points, since I don't make any of them anymore...and they upgrade to the armored Sonia which is a way off.

Also, in this game there are three ARDs. They are tiny things, 3000 unit capacity which is good for all but the largest destroyer. They are at Truk, Etorofu, and Babeldoab. I am going to move them back to Iwo, China, and Manchuko. They are only 3 VP, but if the game goes a long time having some repair back would be nice. I like them. Does anyone know if they can upgrade ships that fit?

Got another Tony squadron upgraded, well a splinter of 14 planes at Rangoon.

Bombing campaign of Chungking and Chengtu seems to be going well. Supplies flowing forward, etc. Lanchow oil more than 33% repaired with a cushion of 14k there.

Three more fighter squadrons assigned to the West Coast operation bringing the total of land based air squadrons to 10.

I am trying to get the operation landing on Christmas day. Lots, and lots of clicks, double checking, and triple checking. Sometimes the game feels like work.

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RE: Manila Falls

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I wish you the best of luck. It's going to be a blast to follow.

Edit: Maybe I shouldn't reveal that previous tidbit...

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RE: Manila Falls

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I wasn't impressed with the Tony Ki-61a in my first game, but then I may not have been using it correctly.
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RE: Manila Falls

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I wasn't impressed with the Tony Ki-61a in my first game, but then I may not have been using it correctly.

Better than a Nate!

PDU off joy![:D]
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RE: Manila Falls

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I've always been skeptical of the possibility of a 1944 IJA autovictory, for several large reasons. Best of luck...
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I've always been skeptical of the possibility of a 1944 IJA autovictory, for several large reasons.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!!![;)]
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I've always been skeptical of the possibility of a 1944 IJA autovictory, for several large reasons.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!!![;)]

I was on the phone/working earlier, so didn't elaborate, but I suppose I'll mention the biggest obstacle: it's nearly impossible to have a 3:1 VP ratio as Japan at some point in 1944 simply due to the sheer weight of the Allied OOB. As Japan, you would need to inflict several large disasters on the Allies not just to drive up your own VP total (the numerator), but to keep the Allied denominator low. It would require perfect anticipation of the Allied counteroffensive and a good deal of luck to pull off.
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RE: Manila Falls

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I've always been skeptical of the possibility of a 1944 IJA autovictory, for several large reasons.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!!![;)]

I was on the phone/working earlier, so didn't elaborate, but I suppose I'll mention the biggest obstacle: it's nearly impossible to have a 3:1 VP ratio as Japan at some point in 1944 simply due to the sheer weight of the Allied OOB. As Japan, you would need to inflict several large disasters on the Allies not just to drive up your own VP total (the numerator), but to keep the Allied denominator low. It would require perfect anticipation of the Allied counteroffensive and a good deal of luck to pull off.

I think you describe any autovictory by Japan.[:D]


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RE: Manila Falls

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Allies really have the ASW working overtime off those carriers...my attempt to lure his ASW TFs into the hex failed, however.



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