Semi OT - Epiphany - advice to newbies

This new stand alone release based on the legendary War in the Pacific from 2 by 3 Games adds significant improvements and changes to enhance game play, improve realism, and increase historical accuracy. With dozens of new features, new art, and engine improvements, War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition brings you the most realistic and immersive WWII Pacific Theater wargame ever!

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Not so much don't try, as don't wait for perfection before taking action. At some point you must go with what you have, perfect or not. I got two kids that way!
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Not so much don't try, as don't wait for perfection before taking action. At some point you must go with what you have, perfect or not. I got two kids that way!

No, they are perfect. It's your judgment of their perfection that is imperfect.

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Not so much don't try, as don't wait for perfection before taking action. At some point you must go with what you have, perfect or not. I got two kids that way!
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Lol! [:)]

Well there's at least a couple of ways I read that sentence?!

Re-read it and then ask yourself - was the poster saying:

a) Mrs BBfanboy isn't great but time was marching on so.....
b) My...ahem.... technique isn't great but we kind of huffed and puffed a bit and... hey whaddya know? Mrs BBfanboy became pregnant!


[:D] For the record I'm sure Mrs BBfanboy is lovely - just teasing. Not saying anything about your sexual prowess however [;)]
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Like Richard Nixon, I want to make myself perfectly clear - and also like him I probably won't .... but the thought was that every man wants to be as well endowed as certain movie "actors", but most of us are "average" on the bell curve. Investing in various devices, potions and surgery might get me closer to "perfection", but just advancing to contact with what was available got the job done, and saved a lot of time, cash and pain! [8D]
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Like Richard Nixon, I want to make myself perfectly clear - and also like him I probably won't .... but the thought was that every man wants to be as well endowed as certain movie "actors", but most of us are "average" on the bell curve. Investing in various devices, potions and surgery might get me closer to "perfection", but just advancing to contact with what was available got the job done, and saved a lot of time, cash and pain! [8D]
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OMG Warspite1, what on earth happened to your avatar?!?!?[&:]
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It's not the size of the boat, but the motion of the ocean![;)]
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warspite1's avatar is a motorized infantry division. Will he take it out on the water to get the cut of its jib?

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OMG Warspite1, what on earth happened to your avatar?!?!?[&:]
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Hi rustyi - see my sig line for an explanation. It's only a temporary thing - the Grand Old Lady will be back in her rightful place soon [:)]
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Being a relative newbie myself I am now far enough along to pass along my epiphany.

I read it posted on these forums once before (*source forgotten) but it is so very very true.

"The greatest enemy of good is perfect"

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Before I purchased I have read much about the huge learning curve, the clickfest, the micromanagement. Further the challenges with AI, the lexicon of terminology, and of course the necessity to be able to recite the entire order of battle for each regiment, battalion, and division in the pacific theater.

All of which is at best only partially true and may or may not make the game more enjoyable depending upon your style. To a certain type of war gamer some of the truest aspects (like OOB) may be highly appealing.

I now approach mid 1943 in my first game. Historical difficulty, Player Defined Upgrades off, "no reload challenge due to unfavorable results", and escorts required for off map convoys.

I think I am winning the war. [:'(]

This has simply been one of the most intellectually stimulating computer hobbies I have ever had. Worth every penny a hundred times over.

I have now learned so much I have done "wrong" [8D] ; and still this game is simply amazing.

I am constantly fighting the urge to restart actually. But the adage is correct. I don't need to be perfect to enjoy the game.

I'll be perfect 'next time' on a harder level or when I can dedicate time to be a thoughtful PBEM partner. [:D]

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The community on these message boards is also incredibly helpful, informed, and often humorous.

Do yourself a favor and buy into this game:

1) Read the manual.

Print it from PDF at work, or pay $6.25 (CAD) at the UPS store for the color print out off your USB stick. You don't need to recite line by line but it answers the most obvious of questions ; and surprisingly it sticks when you play.

2) Play the Coral Sea / Guadalcanal tutorials.

Shorter in scope, less stress, so educational. Don't sweat it when your audacious 1st landing is destroyed by air power and pushed back into the sea.

3) Ask this helpful community if still stumped

4) Abandon yea - your spouse and children.... Ooops <edit> that part out.

Congrats!

I am on the other side of the fence. I never progressed past 1st January, 1942. The restarts are just too good. Still learning tons about the game in my sixth year of WITP:AE gaming.
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OMG Warspite1, what on earth happened to your avatar?!?!?[&:]
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Hi rustyi - see my sig line for an explanation. It's only a temporary thing - the Grand Old Lady will be back in her rightful place soon [:)]


Oops, didn't check the signature line.
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I am on the other side of the fence. I never progressed past 1st January, 1942. The restarts are just too good. Still learning tons about the game in my sixth year of WITP:AE gaming.

Yaab, ya gotta get past this man. There's just sooooo much more game out there, 'cmon.[:D]
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I am on the other side of the fence. I never progressed past 1st January, 1942. The restarts are just too good. Still learning tons about the game in my sixth year of WITP:AE gaming.

Yaab, ya gotta get past this man. There's just sooooo much more game out there, 'cmon.[:D]

Yes you're quitting prematurely. How does SO feel about that? [:'(]

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ORIGINAL: rustysi
I am on the other side of the fence. I never progressed past 1st January, 1942. The restarts are just too good. Still learning tons about the game in my sixth year of WITP:AE gaming.

Yaab, ya gotta get past this man. There's just sooooo much more game out there, 'cmon.[:D]

Yes you're quitting prematurely. How does SO feel about that? [:'(]
I am sure your doctor can help you with the premature finish issue ... you might want to look up Mandrake - he'll understand WTH "AE" is .
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I think perfection with AE is impossible. You may continue to improve yes, but the most important thing is "SURVIVAL". Surviving the first 6 months, your CV'S surviving long enough for the Essex class to start showing up. Surviving in CBI. Surviving in the South Pacific. Surviving long enough to fight back. Perfection is not required, just SKILL. And skills improve with time faster than perfection....GP
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I think perfection with AE is impossible.

True. In my case I think I'm going backward.
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