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All too dangerous. Focus on taking PM and killing as many allied planes and troops there as you can. After that, snatching Irau is onyl worth doing to stop the allies from doing it. If you put too many troops there you are just asking your opponent to bomb you. Supply it with barges (so although his subs will be all over them, you don't really have to care) and let him take Nevea.

As soon as you spot enemy ships at Nevea, a couple of DD surface combat groups should race in from Lunga and long lance them. Drown the troops, sink the supplies, and leave whoever was unlucky enouhg to get to Nevea there to starve - repeat as necessary as more troops, supplies for Nevea arrive. Nevea and Irau are places to bleed your opponent - you don't actually want them (too easy for the allies to bomb).
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decision

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In typical newbie non decision way Ive made a decision.
The enemy has only regiment at PM, Im very close to 2 to 1 already, so I am only going to send one more, the other three and a half regiments are going to gather at the moment south east of gilli gilli, if PM falls, its south east bound for them,

3 heavy Bombardment groups begin ops tonight, and the CV TF 3cv,1cvl is covering the 1st inbound regiment

2 more CVs have arrived today, and another surface TF has been dispatched from Truk, they will lurk of Lunga ( no uber CV TF yet for me)
Trying to get my stuff together re HQs,base forces and airfield building. despite AP losses I have ooodles of them.

Only 2 zero squads 1 betty 2 nell in theatre.

results today, we capture Irau!
Nothing else happening
Hiryu is a long way south now!
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it begins

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deliberate attack pm.
1to 1, fort to zero, 17457 troops to 8933 so I reckon Im only about 400 short
LRCAP zeros over PM
BBs have hit it, and Im keeping them there, he can try to hit them, or the invasion convoy, at the moment Im gambling that his LBA is still too green to hurt me too much
So we begin.
CV Hiryu launches a raid on Brisbane, severly damages 3 AP.
No air resistance
So now I hope wobbly is wondering how many LBA squads to send down south, or from Numea.
I hope the latter, as CV Akagi and Juno charge southeast!
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It finishes!!!

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Jubilation at HQ!

Last night a small platoon infiltrated to the edge of PM airfield.
Sensing a weakening of resolve our commander on the spot ordered one last effort from the troops.
Maybe it was the effects of the bombardment of the night before, or the sight of our navy sailing in PM harbour apparently immune to allied airpower.....you get the picture.
launched one last deliberate attack, PM is MINE!
Kept the BBs in the harbour, over 70 bombers attacked, for no hits and a beating from my lrcap.

The plan has worked.
Even better, wobbly has tried to sneak a tf up the edge of the screen, it got struck by my Vals, for some DDs hit

Now he has a choice, my invasion regiment will be in PM this turn, hopefully he will attack, and meet 2BBs and escorts.
Ive moved the CVs way west, so if his turn up I still have some room.
Again I hope his CVs are trying to hunt down Hiryu, Ive put her Zeros on 0cap, if she is struck Ill make sure her strike gets through, crippling his CVs now sure will leave the way clear for what is coming next.

What next?
Sorry Luskan, no defence this time, this newbie is going for auto victory.
The plan is to take the 3 regiments now freed up and already at sea and strike at lunganville,wunpunko and efate port villa, yes all at once.
These are the distraction.
3 more regiments available in about 40 days will strike some time later( when the battles at lunganville have sucked enough allied resources in) at.....Rockingham.
So thats the plan.
I need about 2 weeks to gather fuel, and get sorted out, a week would be better, before the marines arrive
The next phase as forces gather hopefully will see his CVs engaged, if not, the invasion of lunganville will certaintly do it.

Now if all this fails, it should at least give my engineers and APs some breathing space to build defences in depth.
Whatever happens, it should be fun to watch!:D
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Careful - you're starting to look a bit green ;)

You do know that to win autovictory you still have to have whatever base you take by 1st jan 1943 . . . Which means that if you are halfway through june now, and the invasion doesn't launch for 50 turns, takes a month to get to rockhampton, that still gives the allies a whopping 3 months to waste you in their own back yard. You can't hold a base on Oz against the enemy for 3 months - you are just going to get hammered repeatedly, and to get 4 times the required supply onto that airfield? Forget it. By Jan you will have used it all and when you try to ship in more in late december to win the game - 500 allied level bombers will be there at close, close range to stop you.

Wait for december before you make any autovictory plans!!!
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thanks Luskan

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Actually Luskan every bit of advise you have given me is exactly right, and in all the other games, its exactly the tactic I am following.
However as this is an entertainment game, with an AAR with a twist, Im probably going to go for it anyway, it should make it more fun. In real life wasnt this Combined fleets alternative midway plan anyway?
So, I know Im going to get hammered, but come along for the ride, no ego at stake here!

So....
Imperial HQ orders the attacks to proceed.
Meanwhile sneaky wobbly has a brain fade and sends a fast transport to Taivu, and blunders into the mother of all minefields, Betties finish of 1 DD, at least 2 CAs, another DD are hit as well.

CV Hiryu meanwhile steams fullspeed northwards to intercept!
We wait with baited breath.

On another front MY ISP tells me I sent turns to two other players last week, now I hear they didnt get them, on one I deleted his last turn after playing it. What do we do now? Only a short scenerio, but a pain if I stuffed it.
Personal apologies to **** if I have.
Where do I go to read more on how combat save works?
Thanks
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quiet

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And what happened the next day....... absolutely nothing.:p
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war on holiday

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Well , just two turns without action, abd wobbly asks me, whats going on.
Well invasions, even rash ones need build up,and thats what is happening. when the plan is finished, and forces gathered, Ill fill the air with transmissions. Until then, its build, supply and relieve time.
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Buggar!

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Anger and recriminations at Combined fleet HQ, as word comes in that Yamato is returning to Truk, badly damaged by just a single torpedo from some sub of PM. Apparently some 30 feet of plate is missing from her bows, and she is burning.

Nevertheless Operation Knife,fork and spoon begins to take shape.

Operation cultery:
Objective, to bring the enemy fleet to battle, and destroy him.

Forces involved, the lot!:D

Operation Fork - 3 task forces, 61, 60, 55, will land 16th regiment at lunganville, 230th reg at Wunpunko, and 228th reg at Efate port Vila.
They will be covered by TF5, 3 cvs and escort
Bombardment forces assigned:
Surface TF 7 Kongo and Nagato
TF58 Mutsu
TF64 Hiei
TF 54,3ca
TF 59, 2ca
plus supporting AOs and DDs and SS

Operation Spoon
At the appropiate time, TF 57,3cv,1cvl, will strike at Noumea directly

Operation knife
In the inevitable lull, 124th reg,28th reg, and 29 reg will land at Rockingham.

The encounters should be decisive.
They should allow time to build a defence in depth, troops we have plenty of, airfields are in short supply
Also I intend to afollow Luskans lead, and withdraw LBA, and train and train and train.

yes, all very rash and risky, other opponents ,not the tactics I would usually follow, but it should be a fun plan to follow. Reading wobblies response should be fun for you guys as this all unfolds anyway.
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As usual...

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All this talk about engaging CVs, what happens, Ive just spotted them way south, and what am I doing, refuelling:rolleyes:

PM forces relieved, some evacuating by sea, had a gut ful of SS, so the rest are marching to Buna, then going home.

Regiment should soon reach marilam. when captured will march to PM
Operation cutlery begins tomorrow.
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Action!!

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Well this turn wobblie LBA returned to action, blasting a AP at Gilli Gilli. Im thinking of totally redoing my supply convoy set up, must start to get barges up and running.

The big news is wobblies CVs, ( would love to read his posts today and tomorrow.)

My major invasion force (fork) has gathered about 10 hexes to the west of lunga, 3cvs, 3 surface action groups, and 3 AP invasion forces, all merrily trying to refuel.2 more BBs lurk at shortlands.

Further to the west, about 6 hexes south east of the reefs of gilli gilli is my 2nd 3CV1cvl task force.
Well, last turn I sighted his CVs way south, imagine my surprise when this turn they pop up 5 hexes away from my invasion fleet, and launch a huge strike against 3 aps at lunga.

Obviously they got sunk very quickly:(
The big thing is my carriers reacted(but didnt launch too few operation points), but he didnt sight my carriers at all, his second strike was a piddling little afair, scoring just one hit on a CL.

So today should be interesting.
Ive tried to send the APs North, if he goes north they are in trouble.
Im guessing he will run south east, both of my CV tfs are moving south east, the bigger one must end up between him and Noumea, and every surface ship I have is racing into the area, I am going to risk a few BBs getting hammered if it means his airstrikes are diverted, but surely today should see a major CV vs CV action

Just in time for the weekend






:D
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as expected

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Enemy carriers flee due east. regrettably 3 of my DDs get in the way, and suffer a massive strike.

We are chasing him, also heading due east.

This could be interesting:D
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let down

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Well the anticipated CV vs CV battle took place.....sort of.

As expected he continued to flee toward s the map edge lunganville way, my tFs in hot pursuit.

strikes at long range were launched both ways, only one of my TFs anticipating.
Light losses both sides in A/C, no hits on me, Lexington took one light hit.

Ive run out of fuel:o , so Ive temporarily got to withdraw, all the fleet will regroup near Irau, and await the invasion fleet to catch up.
So, operation cultery is delayed, not cancelled, or seriously delayed.
As a bonus a CV,cvl arrive this week, and another BB
massive forces available for the operations aherad.
Finally recieved another zero squad, dispatched to lunga.
Our troops attack Marilian tomorrow, I expect to find the enemy has fled to Lea lea.

I give the 1st coral sea as a victory to wobbly, I believe though that he was lucky toget away:D
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wimp wobbly

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wobbly runs away down the edge of the board, back towards Noumea. So Im waiting for fuel, resting pilots, regathering
Lots of bad weather, little action to report
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Storms

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under cover of more thunderstorms we gather and commence refuelling. His carriers are gone,

a convoy is sighted at wunpunko, I believe it is a trap, there are significant surface forces at lunganville.

So Im staying put, refuelling, gathering ect.

the rest of the area is quiet, Im trying to regather my APs, evac disrupted troops at PM and set up convoys and barge runs, all this takes time.
Im debating the form of the attack on lunganville ect, Im probably going to go for the big blob attack, a huge force bearing down, hopefully absorbing his LBA, and getting the troops ashore.
We will see.
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Great double AAR!

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This must be the one of the best AARs I have ever read! I don't even own the game (so many games so little time :rolleyes: ), and I was originally seduced to read this by the very word "beer" in the title :D. Anyway, there's no better promotion for the game, if you ask me. :)
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SMELL

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I smell a rat, in a great big trap! Here I have this graet big bunch of ships just south of Irau, and what has obbly done for the last 2 days, had a handful of small insignificant ships lurking at wunpunko, well with in striking range. And then at Lunganville, lots of ships, and the clincher, his CVs havent run away, but are lingering well whithin reaction range, behind the string of islands.

mmmmmmm, OK. here is the plan, Ive ordered a strike of 4 dd into wunpunko, and my CVs have crept in a bit closer, and the Surface TFs have also begun to creep in. I have to move any way, SS sunk a empty tanker that turn( 29/6/42), the place is attracting them like flies.
So fork is slowly moving ahead, hopefully he will react to my DDs, and come into range of my CVs, and BBs.
Elements of spoon, 1cv, 2cvl arrive in area in 6 days time.

Im getting very very nervous about all of this, oh well, into the breach!!!!
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what the???

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well it was a trap, 4 DDs steam in, and meet a wall of enemy ships, thet are sunk, but Im happy, his surfaces forces are revealed.
The invasion blob creeps closer.
His Cvs are near Noumea, and must now come to me

meanwhile wobbly has re invaded PM!, im not worried!

plenty of forces there, so hopefully thety will get trapped.
Major blockade forces are on the way!

Tomorrow I plan to occupy lunganville harbour, and wunpunko harbour. The battle is on
Cap is set high, and naval strike is set
let yankee blood flow!
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interesting

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Huge consternation at HQ, the enemy has struck back at PM with amazing speed.
Amazing arguments about what our response should be are cut short abruptly, Admiral Beer is good speaks: Operation cutlery will continue as planned, Pm will be held with forces available

All night we listen to the reports come in, The enemy LBA hits our invasion fleet of wunpunko, some damage, none too critical. Regretfully the only ship really heavily struck carries a base force, this has implications if it sinks.
Our CVs launch multiple strikes, pounding a CA and 4 destroyers
Tomorrow we should enter the harbours, our CV commander reports that he intends to sweep the area clear of enemy shipping, our BBs should close the fields

At PM, CA Chikuma and 4 apd on a evacuation run blunder into his invasion convoy, 14APs and AKs, 4 msw and some PGs, a sharp engagement, Chikuma is withdrawing unscratched, ammo expended, a msw,pg, 2aps burning behind her.

A 2nd evac convoy of cls, and many DDs crawled into PM this morning, it is crippled for fuel, whether it can engage or not awaits to be seen.

Our LBA was very ineffective, too few squadrons in theatre yet.

The allies launched a shock attack, 0 to 1 odds, my deliberate attack, much the same. We feel a stalemate coming on....

So, how I see it. Havent a clue on what wobbly is trying to achieve, but I can see us both in the same situation, lots of troops stranded at the end of long supply lines, at the mercy (both ways) of LBA.
I feel that suits me, Ive got lots of carriers to hang around to intercept and attrit, and thats what Im going to do. Wobbly I feel, thinks Im going to keep all the CVs in one place, wrong, soon I plan to have 3 nice TFs, if I can have them placed just right......
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beer gives you the wobblies

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If wobbly doesnt flat spin after playing the replay from7/3/42, then he is a calm fellow.
Its all happening, two big battles at opposite sides of the map.
1st PM, that fast transport fleet with buggar all fuel still had enough to go into action (no troops onboard)
In a vicious attack it quickly sent 3 aps to the bottom, and a MSW
Then reinforcements arrived, Ca astoria,canberra and cl achilles, 2 dd, vs 1cl and 11 dd.
A fantastic long lance attack ripped him apart, I have 4 damaged ships, 3 dd,achilles sunk, astoria badly hurt, all enemy ships badly damaged.
then a ss got in on the act, another ap hit, but it was sunk
dawn saw my LBA into the act, 3 more aps wont get home, and another,yes another msw sunk
I reckon thats a division about to starve.:D

Over at lunganville, troops are landing at Wunpunko, it seems only engineers there, and at Lunganville, enemy strength is still a bit uncertain.Soon we also land at espirito, and only week forces are spotted there.
Our CVs smash 3 Aos to the south, my surface forces are in lunganville harbour.

Thunderstorms today, i believe his CVs must couinter today or tomorrow, Akagi and 2cvl enter Kavieg today,and my pilots are still fairly well of moral and fatigue wise.
Biggest problem is fuel, a stream of tankers is following me, but refuelling takes time
Im beginning to think I might just get away with this.

I report to the emperor, operation cutlery goes as planned.....:)
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