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Seeing how the 054/A platform by now is a proven and mature one with multiple world-wide long-endurance deployments during anti-piracy in the Gulf of Aden, it makes sense for the CCG to request a 054A-based coast-guard ship. I would even say that the 4000 ton Type 818 would beat the 12.000 ton beast in terms of sea-keeping and endurance.
I think it is more favorably for high speed interception, since 054/A's 4 Diesel engines are efficient enough to provide 30 knots of top speed. It's role will be more centric to chase suspect vessel and emergency deployment, rather than high endurance patrol.

The smaller variant of 056-hull CCG is also fast, but the tonnage is too small for stopping larger vessels.
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CCTV unveiled the computer simulated ballistic missile test during the report of Rocket Force Engineering University. A hypersonic vehicle simulation was shown, but yet to determine if it's the US-rumored DF-ZF:

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The sharp delta wings configuration with winglets and an engine behind can be seen, but that's all from the simulator.
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After the two type 053H2G Jiangwei-Is were converted to coast-guard cutters, it seems that the PLAN is now ready to upgrade their ten Type 053H3 Jiangwei-II FFGs.

What can be discerned is that the HHQ-7 Crotale SAM has been replaced by what appears to be an 18-cell HHQ-10 Point Defense Missile System (Sino-RAM) and at least two of the four Type 76A 37mm AAAs on the bow-deck removed as well. It is said that all four of these obsolete AAAs are to be removed and replaced by two Type 730 CIWS ontop the hangar - just like it was done with the Type 052 Luhu and Type 051B Luhai MLUs. AShM wise, the YJ-82s/C-802 are likely replaced by the common standard YJ-83/C-803, as all other YJ-8-series armed ships in the PLAN since the early 2000s.

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Pre-upgrade Type 053H3 Jiangwei-II, still sporting the HHQ-7 Short Range SAM and the four Type 76A 37mm AAAs.

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All in all, if all 10 of the Jiangwei-II FFGs in service receive this upgrade, they would have the basic anti-seaskimmer defensive capabilities to serve as 2nd line ASW and patrol frigates, together with the more modern but lighter and worse armed Type 056 Jiangdao-class corvettes. Especially since the Jiangwei-IIs all have hangars, they would add the much needed ASW helo support to the Type 056 flotillas. And their eight YJ-83s would still make them useful ASuW assets.

Can somebody verify these will be Chinese coast guard and not navy. Its on my worklist now so [:)]

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Can somebody verify these will be Chinese coast guard and not navy. Its on my worklist now so [:)]
The ship is still refitting as far as I searched, and cannot se if the penult numbers are painted or not either.

But if it's decommissioned and hand over to CCG, it will be a global headline for "World's first coast guard ship armed with missiles". So I think it's safe to say it is still belongs to the Navy. Though it wouldn't be much surprising consider the maritime dispute and conflict China is facing, missile-armed CCG ships might be a reality, if they want to operate them at naval frontline.
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Ok seems reasonable updates made.
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ORIGINAL: Dysta
But if it's decommissioned and hand over to CCG, it will be a global headline for "World's first coast guard ship armed with missiles". So I think it's safe to say it is still belongs to the Navy. Though it wouldn't be much surprising consider the maritime dispute and conflict China is facing, missile-armed CCG ships might be a reality, if they want to operate them at naval frontline.

Weren't some of our older cutters able to retrofitted with Harpoon launchers should the need arise?
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Perhaps the Developers could consider incorporating some of the technology from this video into the game (?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E06cNv55jTs
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DSME Launched the Lead Daegu-class FFX-II Frigate for Republic of Korea Navy
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Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering (DSME) launched the lead ship of the new Daegu-class FFX-II frigate for the Republic of Korea Navy (ROK Navy) on June 2, 2016. Key updates of the Batch II over the ASW-focused Batch I include VLS and full electric propulsion system, as well as a larger hangar that can accomodate a 10-ton helicopter (FFX-I has hangar for lighter helicopters like AW159).

Contacted by Navy Recognition, a DSME reprensentative said that first ship of the class ROKS-818, Daegu will be delivered to ROK Navy in late 2017 and will be commissioned in late 2018.

FFX-II is not fitted with Mk 41 VLS buth with KVLS meaning it will deploy Korean missiles (most probably designed by LIG Nex 1).
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=4067
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ORIGINAL: Dysta
But if it's decommissioned and hand over to CCG, it will be a global headline for "World's first coast guard ship armed with missiles". So I think it's safe to say it is still belongs to the Navy. Though it wouldn't be much surprising consider the maritime dispute and conflict China is facing, missile-armed CCG ships might be a reality, if they want to operate them at naval frontline.

Weren't some of our older cutters able to retrofitted with Harpoon launchers should the need arise?
Sure. The Hamiltons. The Philippines now have two of them and they certainly would like to use that optional capability.
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France Advocating Regular and Visible Combined EU Patrols in South China Sea
France sees the protection of freedom of the seas as critical, French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said during the 15th Asia Security Summit held in Singapore on Sunday. He added that a loss of such rights in the South China Sea may lead to similar problems closer to Europe, in the Arctic Ocean or Mediterranean Sea.
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=4063

French Navy La Fayette and Leygues class Frigates in Exocet Anti-Ship Missile Exercise
The French Navy (Marine Nationale) announced that the La Fayette-class frigate Courbet successfully launched two exocet MM40 Block II anti-ship missiles against two surface targets. The exercise was conducted jointly with Georges Leygues-class frigate Jean de Vienne which launched a missile as well.
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=4062

Second Project 11356 Frigate Admiral Essen Commissioned with Russian Navy
The first production-standard Project 11356 frigate - the Admiral Essen - has been commissioned for service with the Russian Navy. The Russian Navy flag was hoisted onboard the frigate in a ceremony on the premises of the Yantar Shipyard in Kaliningrad. The ship will be assigned to the Black Sea Fleet.
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=4070

Russian Navy Udaloy-class (Project 1155) ASW Destroyers Won't Get Cruise Missiles for Now
The conversion of the Russian Navy’s large antisubmarine warfare (ASW) ships to the Kalibr missile system has not begun yet, Igor Ponomaryov, vice-president, military shipbuilding, United Shipbuilding Corporation, told TASS at the KADEX 2016 arms show. "To date, we have not received a requirements specification for [the Project] 1155 [ship] from the Defense Ministry and the full-fledged work has not started yet," Ponomaryov said.
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=4064

Australia to Equip its Hobart-class AWD Vessels with Raytheon SM-2 Block IIIB Missiles
The Australian Navy will equip its Hobart-class Air Warfare Destroyers with the Raytheon SM-2 Block IIIB missiles. According to the US Defence Security Cooperation Agency, the State Department has approved the Foreign Military Sale of the missiles with a cost of USD301 million.
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=4071
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China's 26th Type 056 Corvette (Jiangdao class) Qujing Commissioned in PLAN South Sea Fleet
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A commissioning, naming and flag-presenting ceremony of the new Qujing corvette (hull number 508) of the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN or Chinese Navy) was held solemnly at Yulin Naval Base located in the Yalong Bay (city of Sanya) on Hainan island. The event means that the vessel is officially commissioned to the PLAN. Qujing is the twenty-sixth Type 056 Corvette (Jiangdao class).
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=4075

German Navy K130 Corvettes Ready for Saab RBS-15 Mk3 Anti-Ship Missiles
The German Navy has authorized on 3 June 2016 the use of the surface-to-surface Saab RBS-15 Mk3 missiles aboard the K130-class corvettes. This type of missiles will give the Marine the capability to engage land targets from the sea.
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=4074

Shipyard in central Russia floats out first Project 21980 anti-sabotage boat
The Vympel Shipyard in Rybinsk in central Russia has floated out the first Project 21980 Grachonok anti-sabotage boat, the shipyard’s press office told TASS.
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It´s official.

Denmark buys 27 F-35 with deliveries beginning in 2021 and running to 2026.
F-16 retirement planned for 2024.

http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/fuld-f ... paa-en-dag
http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/aftale ... ye-kampfly
(The links is in danish)

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It´s official.

Denmark buys 27 F-35 with deliveries beginning in 2021 and running to 2026.
F-16 retirement planned for 2024.

http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/fuld-f ... paa-en-dag
http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/aftale ... ye-kampfly
(The links is in danish)

Søren

I've seen a couple English language articles. The really news worthy part, big picture, is the lifecycle cost estimates from the Danish government. F-35 is comparable to F-18, and 25% cheaper than Typhion.
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The newly remodeled Type 051B Luhai-class DDG (167) sitting side by side with a Type 052B Luyang-I DDG (169).

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The main Type 382 Sea-Eagle S/C (NATO: RICE SHIELD) mast-mounted radar (longtime erroneously thought as Chinese Fregat/TOP PLATE copy) have huge size differences.
So, the rumor was true, after all. The MLU-package of the Luhai-class DDG indeed featured the Type 382A improved Sea-Eagle S/C radar.
Even if China could mount modern fixed AESA on their ships, these combined S and C/X band dual-band radars are still very useful and give PLAN surface combattants much radar for less money. This improved variety is rumored to feature up-dated ECM resistance, more sensitivity/antenna-gain as well as longer range. But exact numbers are still unknown.

Also, one can see that the main-mast now has a similiar ESM antenna as the 052D.
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French Navy Announces Aquitaine-class FREMM Frigate Provence is Now on Active Duty
The French Navy (Marine Nationale) Chief of Staff Admiral Rogel gave FREMM (multi-mission frigate) Provence "Actve Duty" status on June 9. The first two ships of the Aquitaine-class of Frigates are now "operation proven" vessels according the the French Navy.
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=4087

Russian Navy First Project 21180 Icebreaker Ilya Muromets Launched in St Petersburg
The lead diesel electric icebreaker Ilya Muromets of project 21180 became the first vessel of the class in 45 years of Russian Navy history to be floated by the Admiralty Shipyard in St. Petersburg, TASS correspondent reported. The ceremony was attended by Russian Navy Chief-of-Staff Vice Admiral Andrei Volozhinsky, head of the department for state defense order of the Russian defense ministry Andrei Vernigora and Director General of the Admiralty Shipyard Alexander Buzakov.
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=4085
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Bad news for Transformer 2 and Ghost Fleet readers:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/future-navys ... 17763.html
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That's the exact same discussion they've been having since R&D first took off. This is nothing new.
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This honestly sounds like a hit piece as the technology has greatly matured to make many if not all the author's points moot.
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This honestly sounds like a hit piece as the technology has greatly matured to make many if not all the author's points moot.
Maybe, but it still can't deliver the expected velocity from current 'maturity' of technology. Deck gun as a start is definitely too much for entire US defense, not just the navy.

I'd still feel impressed if it's an auto-cannon caliber, like CIWS or patrol gun.
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ORIGINAL: CrazyIvan101

This honestly sounds like a hit piece as the technology has greatly matured to make many if not all the author's points moot.
Maybe, but it still can't deliver the expected velocity from current 'maturity' of technology. Deck gun as a start is definitely too much for entire US defense, not just the navy.

I'd still feel impressed if it's an auto-cannon caliber, like CIWS or patrol gun.

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