Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr Game over :-)
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RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr)
Great job! Classic close in kami attack. And your Sonya's!!!! [&o][&o][&o] Wow! great hit ratios.
Pax
RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr)
Thanks Pax much appreciated [:)]ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
Great job! Classic close in kami attack. And your Sonya's!!!! [&o][&o][&o] Wow! great hit ratios.
RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr)
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Between the pair of us we must be close to setting records for sheer carnage [:)]
From my perspective it doesn't feel like a minor victory for the Allies but rather the entire extermination of the empire! [X(]

Between the pair of us we must be close to setting records for sheer carnage [:)]
From my perspective it doesn't feel like a minor victory for the Allies but rather the entire extermination of the empire! [X(]

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RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr)
Of course in the great tradition of AAR reporting we only record victories and not defeats [:D]
With this tradition in mind, behold a rare land victory.
As the Allies commence spreading out across Japan, these two US infantry units stumbled onto a hornet's nest and I wasn't about to let them get away cheaply. After a few BB bombardments and deliberate attacks (yes I still have two left that I managed to patch up and keep operational) I moved in for the kill before their friends could reinforce.

With this tradition in mind, behold a rare land victory.
As the Allies commence spreading out across Japan, these two US infantry units stumbled onto a hornet's nest and I wasn't about to let them get away cheaply. After a few BB bombardments and deliberate attacks (yes I still have two left that I managed to patch up and keep operational) I moved in for the kill before their friends could reinforce.

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RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr)
Yep, I got those two which is a rare victory amidst the slaughter.
I still have some very strong positions around Kobe and Osaka and a general counter offensive will commence soon before I run out of supplies. Keen to bleed him some more.

I still have some very strong positions around Kobe and Osaka and a general counter offensive will commence soon before I run out of supplies. Keen to bleed him some more.

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RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr)
Latest air losses- I am hoping that one day he may run out of B24s!!!![8|]


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RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr)
ORIGINAL: njp72
Latest air losses- I am hoping that one day he may run out of B24s!!!![8|]
He might soon. Just about the time the 8th flies in for some more fun after obliterating the Germans. How do you like B-17Gs? [:D]
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill
RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr)
My thoughts...B17 are endless now.
RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr)
That's a ridiculous number of 4E losses! Curious what percentage of B-24Js have been lost. Looks like at least half and probably more. Too bad he gets like 100 B-17Gs a month now.
Surprised strategic losses aren't higher. Has Wargmr even tried to go after your industry?
Surprised strategic losses aren't higher. Has Wargmr even tried to go after your industry?
RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr)
ORIGINAL: obvert
ORIGINAL: njp72
Latest air losses- I am hoping that one day he may run out of B24s!!!![8|]
He might soon. Just about the time the 8th flies in for some more fun after obliterating the Germans. How do you like B-17Gs? [:D]
I am guessing the answer will be not much [:)]
Despite the 25K difference in VPs, I am not sure how far I will stagger into Sep 45 before I collapse so maybe they won't be such a problem after all.
RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr)
ORIGINAL: Sangeli
That's a ridiculous number of 4E losses! Curious what percentage of B-24Js have been lost. Looks like at least half and probably more. Too bad he gets like 100 B-17Gs a month now.
Surprised strategic losses aren't higher. Has Wargmr even tried to go after your industry?
He has has but only half halfheartedly. A few big day light strikes which yielded disappointing results for the losses sustained.
Three main reasons I see why Mike has not gone harder here:
1. His 4es have been employed very effectively in the ground support role since almost day 1. Flying between 5,000 to 8,000 ft they have on countless occasions destroyed or badly disrupted strong positions across the entirety of his advance. They were brutally employed in his advance through the PIs and especially China. Because of their constant use and losses I suspect it has been hard to build and maintain a reserve to really go after industry.
2. Japanese air defence both night and day has been very strong across the entire HI. It is now Aug 45 and it is finally breaking down over Southern Japan.
3. Mike is a very aggressive player and he doesn't enjoy sitting back and bombing something into rubble. To his credit he loves to embrace a challenge and would rather assault and seize a position than sit back. Obviously there are risks in the strategy and at times he can sustain very heavy losses or he goes straight through my defences like tissue paper.
A fantastic player which ensures an action packed and fast game.
RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr)
I'm surprised your air defenses have held out that long. I just don't see how any Japanese CAP can deal with concentrated P-47 sweeps. In my current match I have yet to see the Japanese even try to stop P-47s for more than a single turn. I'm looking forward to the day when Japanese fighters are forced to defend the HI industry against my Thunderbolts [:D]
RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr)
ORIGINAL: Sangeli
I'm surprised your air defenses have held out that long. I just don't see how any Japanese CAP can deal with concentrated P-47 sweeps. In my current match I have yet to see the Japanese even try to stop P-47s for more than a single turn. I'm looking forward to the day when Japanese fighters are forced to defend the HI industry against my Thunderbolts [:D]
I have learnt through quite a few games to counter P47 sweeps to at least an acceptable 3:1 loss ratio in the Allies favour (not including the P47N). Tojo, Frank and George set at high altitudes with plenty of radars and range settings of 0 or 1. The cannonfodder (oscars and zeros) operating at lower altitude as effectively as bait. The critical factor is sheer numbers. You can gradually overwhelm the sweeps, especially if they come in piecemeal. [:)]
RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr)
The last big offensive [:)]
With strat bombing occurring throughout Southern Japan and stockpiles of supplies falling at a rapid rate, the Emperor has declared a nationwide Banzai charge at all Allied forces in the homeland.
Phase 1 has commenced and I suspect Mike will have a turn or two of panic before the offensive collapses under a hail of bombs and armour.
Still I am still scoring points, and I am getting close now to my 90K VP dream total.

With strat bombing occurring throughout Southern Japan and stockpiles of supplies falling at a rapid rate, the Emperor has declared a nationwide Banzai charge at all Allied forces in the homeland.
Phase 1 has commenced and I suspect Mike will have a turn or two of panic before the offensive collapses under a hail of bombs and armour.
Still I am still scoring points, and I am getting close now to my 90K VP dream total.

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RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr)
Not to mention the 100's that he gets with all the new air groups ... B17G's really are unlimited at this point ... you have to kill +50/day to put even a dent into them ... and 50/day requires you to own the skies ... with the almost unlimited Stangs that are also now available, how would one do that exactly? [X(][X(][X(]ORIGINAL: Sangeli
That's a ridiculous number of 4E losses! Curious what percentage of B-24Js have been lost. Looks like at least half and probably more. Too bad he gets like 100 B-17Gs a month now.
Surprised strategic losses aren't higher. Has Wargmr even tried to go after your industry?
Pax
RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr)
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
Not to mention the 100's that he gets with all the new air groups ... B17G's really are unlimited at this point ... you have to kill +50/day to put even a dent into them ... and 50/day requires you to own the skies ... with the almost unlimited Stangs that are also now available, how would one do that exactly? [X(][X(][X(]ORIGINAL: Sangeli
That's a ridiculous number of 4E losses! Curious what percentage of B-24Js have been lost. Looks like at least half and probably more. Too bad he gets like 100 B-17Gs a month now.
Surprised strategic losses aren't higher. Has Wargmr even tried to go after your industry?
LOL, well that crushes that dream as clearly I'm not going to based on those figures [:)]
RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr)
Allies planes are pretty much limitless when you get this late.
The carrier bombers are really deep...and almost everything else is pretty darn hefty too.
Have you run into any of the British funnies...the super heavy one bomb planes?
What other late war plane have your run into that was memorable?
The carrier bombers are really deep...and almost everything else is pretty darn hefty too.
Have you run into any of the British funnies...the super heavy one bomb planes?
What other late war plane have your run into that was memorable?
RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr)
D + 2 on the great and final offensive.
The Allied centre holds and now sensing the danger they commence to pull back.
A surprising development was the collapse of a commonwealth battlegroup with US armoured elements. This leaves quite a few Allied units exposed and potentially cut off if I push to the coast. Two factors give me pause for thought before I commence the exploit of the break through:
1. Allied BBs poised to unleash hell once I reach that coast line and
2. Allied air power.
Still as hoped for, some short term worries for Mike[:)]

The Allied centre holds and now sensing the danger they commence to pull back.
A surprising development was the collapse of a commonwealth battlegroup with US armoured elements. This leaves quite a few Allied units exposed and potentially cut off if I push to the coast. Two factors give me pause for thought before I commence the exploit of the break through:
1. Allied BBs poised to unleash hell once I reach that coast line and
2. Allied air power.
Still as hoped for, some short term worries for Mike[:)]

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RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr)
Surprisingly how easy these Commonwealth units just collapsed especially considering the tenacious defence the Allies are putting up in the centre. Terrain played a big part and some still appeared to be in move mode. They didn't expect a flank counterattack [;)]


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RE: Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr (no wargmr)
However it is not all beer and skittles, as i got smashed just outside of Hiroshima this turn.


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