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[Orm]

ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

ORIGINAL: Orm

So Mr Mourinho and Zlatan are both in Manchester United this season. Who would have guessed that. Oh, wait... [8|] [;)]

Mr Hear-my-Bus-a-comin' tends to bring these sort of players. Nothing new.

Our disagreement is not whether the bus will arrive, or not. It is whether he brings results, or not.

[loki100]

anyway, the Europa League has started. It appears that Scottish teams are doing pretty well against the might of Malta's runners up and similar sides. But we in Glasgow have a problem. The best team in the city [1] needs a new volunteer to run around in this get up. Any takers?



[1] ok this depends a lot on how you define best but if you quite like watching football without having to listen to a particular view on Irish history then they most definitely are the place to go.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: loki100

anyway, the Europa League has started. It appears that Scottish teams are doing pretty well against the might of Malta's runners up and similar sides. But we in Glasgow have a problem. The best team in the city [1] needs a new volunteer to run around in this get up. Any takers?



[1] ok this depends a lot on how you define best but if you quite like watching football without having to listen to a particular view on Irish history then they most definitely are the place to go.

warspite1

Err.........[;)]

[TulliusDetritus]

ORIGINAL: Orm
Our disagreement is not whether the bus will arrive, or not. It is whether he brings results, or not.

Who knows.

But the bus is guaranteed, oh yes, as sure as night is dark and day is light

[loki100]

realise you've all been waiting for an update on Scotland's glorious progress in the (very) early rounds of the Europa League.

Well Aberdeen managed to get past the champions of Luxembourg despite losing the second leg. They may yet make it to somewhere near the real competition.

[TulliusDetritus]

ORIGINAL: loki100

realise you've all been waiting for an update on Scotland's glorious progress in the (very) early rounds of the Europa League.

Well Aberdeen managed to get past the champions of Luxembourg despite losing the second leg. They may yet make it to somewhere near the real competition.

Well, now that the Euros are over, we can pay attention to these small details. Luxembourg? [:)]

Warspite, anything to say about these news (or threats)? Sam Allardyce is obvious choice for England, says Sir Alex Ferguson

The long-ball brutes, "XIX century football" (Mourinho's words, not mine)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOgToHw7ABI

The surrealistic part is that when Mr M. accuses Allardyce's team (first part of the video), he is in fact describing his own grotesque football style! Hilarious!

EDIT: and in fact Sam Allardyce to be interviewed for England job this week -- 11st of july

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

ORIGINAL: loki100

realise you've all been waiting for an update on Scotland's glorious progress in the (very) early rounds of the Europa League.

Well Aberdeen managed to get past the champions of Luxembourg despite losing the second leg. They may yet make it to somewhere near the real competition.

Warspite, anything to say about these news (or threats)? Sam Allardyce is obvious choice for England, says Sir Alex Ferguson

warspite1

Not really. We've had some decent players over the years - and yet, no matter who we pay huge amounts of money too - overseas coaches, established English coaches, champions league winners, younger English managers - the fact is the results are broadly similar.

Sam Allardyce as a footballer was an old school 'unit'. Finesse, elegance, skill are three words that would not be used to describe his playing ability [:D] - the very opposite of say Glenn Hoddle, but then regardless of the reasons he was sacked, their were rumblings of discontent before Hoddle was removed.

As far as being a manager is concerned, Allardyce has not done much in terms of silverware - but then he's not managed clubs that expect that. What he has done is achieved more than a degree of success through being able to organise a football team and get players playing to their strengths. He has proved a safe pair of hands.

Who knows? Maybe he is what the English game needs in that latter regard? The danger of course is that he will prove to be as incapable as Roy Hodgson in making that leap when managing 'better' players. I have no wish to kick a man when he's down, but I blame the FA for this latest debacle. They had the experience of Hodgson's brief tenure at Liverpool as a guide - or at least a warning - not to mention the disaster that was the last World Cup.

Personally I am a little bit in couldn't care less corner at the moment. The overpaid, over indulged losers don't deserve anything...

[Orm]

The overpaid, over indulged losers don't deserve anything...

Talking about managers, players, or both?

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Orm

The overpaid, over indulged losers don't deserve anything...

Talking about managers, players, or both?

warspite1

The whole English FA including the idiots that appoint managers on stupid contracts, the 'coaching' staff who apparently have never heard of the long throw-in and - most of all - the players who abjectly surrendered against Iceland.

[loki100]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

ORIGINAL: loki100

realise you've all been waiting for an update on Scotland's glorious progress in the (very) early rounds of the Europa League.

Well Aberdeen managed to get past the champions of Luxembourg despite losing the second leg. They may yet make it to somewhere near the real competition.

Warspite, anything to say about these news (or threats)? Sam Allardyce is obvious choice for England, says Sir Alex Ferguson

warspite1

Not really. We've had some decent players over the years - and yet, no matter who we pay huge amounts of money too - overseas coaches, established English coaches, champions league winners, younger English managers - the fact is the results are broadly similar.

Sam Allardyce as a footballer was an old school 'unit'. Finesse, elegance, skill are three words that would not be used to describe his playing ability [:D] - the very opposite of say Glenn Hoddle, but then regardless of the reasons he was sacked, their were rumblings of discontent before Hoddle was removed.

As far as being a manager is concerned, Allardyce has not done much in terms of silverware - but then he's not managed clubs that expect that. What he has done is achieved more than a degree of success through being able to organise a football team and get players playing to their strengths. He has proved a safe pair of hands.

Who knows? Maybe he is what the English game needs in that latter regard? The danger of course is that he will prove to be as incapable as Roy Hodgson in making that leap when managing 'better' players. I have no wish to kick a man when he's down, but I blame the FA for this latest debacle. They had the experience of Hodgson's brief tenure at Liverpool as a guide - or at least a warning - not to mention the disaster that was the last World Cup.

Personally I am a little bit in couldn't care less corner at the moment. The overpaid, over indulged losers don't deserve anything...

I think the Hoddle problem was he could never understand why someone else lacked his magnetic ball control - so was not actually a particularly good coach as he couldn't break down what he did, or tolerate those lacking his own level of skill?

The idea of Allardyce is terrifying - I mean the idea that the EFA are even going to interview him is utterly scary, that he might get the job is truely bizarre. I understand that some Celtic fans wouldn't mind having Rogers taken off their hands already - they've gone from pleased to get him to bemused at all the management psycho-babble he comes out with,

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: loki100

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus



Warspite, anything to say about these news (or threats)? Sam Allardyce is obvious choice for England, says Sir Alex Ferguson

warspite1

Not really. We've had some decent players over the years - and yet, no matter who we pay huge amounts of money too - overseas coaches, established English coaches, champions league winners, younger English managers - the fact is the results are broadly similar.

Sam Allardyce as a footballer was an old school 'unit'. Finesse, elegance, skill are three words that would not be used to describe his playing ability [:D] - the very opposite of say Glenn Hoddle, but then regardless of the reasons he was sacked, their were rumblings of discontent before Hoddle was removed.

As far as being a manager is concerned, Allardyce has not done much in terms of silverware - but then he's not managed clubs that expect that. What he has done is achieved more than a degree of success through being able to organise a football team and get players playing to their strengths. He has proved a safe pair of hands.

Who knows? Maybe he is what the English game needs in that latter regard? The danger of course is that he will prove to be as incapable as Roy Hodgson in making that leap when managing 'better' players. I have no wish to kick a man when he's down, but I blame the FA for this latest debacle. They had the experience of Hodgson's brief tenure at Liverpool as a guide - or at least a warning - not to mention the disaster that was the last World Cup.

Personally I am a little bit in couldn't care less corner at the moment. The overpaid, over indulged losers don't deserve anything...

I think the Hoddle problem was he could never understand why someone else lacked his magnetic ball control - so was not actually a particularly good coach as he couldn't break down what he did, or tolerate those lacking his own level of skill?

The idea of Allardyce is terrifying - I mean the idea that the EFA are even going to interview him is utterly scary, that he might get the job is truely bizarre. I understand that some Celtic fans wouldn't mind having Rogers taken off their hands already - they've gone from pleased to get him to bemused at all the management psycho-babble he comes out with,

warspite1

That Rodgers signed for Celtic before the Euro debacle is something to at least be grateful for.

[TulliusDetritus]

ORIGINAL: loki100
The idea of Allardyce is terrifying - I mean the idea that the EFA are even going to interview him is utterly scary, that he might get the job is truely bizarre.

From what I could gather (as an outsider), this guy is some sort of firefighter. Hired to struggle with mid table (and below) teams: he managed to save Sunderland this year. But he never made it to the elite.

In other words, the classical coach struggling with limited means.

Well, perhaps that's what the team needs now: the feet on the ground, reset, humility and... who knows what's next.

If I am not mistaken, England already copied the German, Spanish and French youth system. Results (production of good competent players) might come in the future. In any case, it worked in all 3 countries mentioned.

And oops! The Guardian strikes again! Sam Allardyce is the regeneration man who can rebuild England

[loki100]

these days he gets jobs taking teams in danger of relegation and making them completely boring and unwatcheable but grabbing enough points to stay up. He's clearly good at this but there is no evidence of anything more creative.

Anyway, for those suffering from post Euro withdrawals, advance news of tonights big match. Celtic against the champions of Gibralter. Should be a tense well balanced tussle between Rodgers' "philosophy" and footballing realities.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: loki100

realise you've all been waiting for an update on Scotland's glorious progress in the (very) early rounds of the Europa League.

Well Aberdeen managed to get past the champions of Luxembourg despite losing the second leg. They may yet make it to somewhere near the real competition.

warspite1

Never mind the Europa League..........

Lincoln Red Imps 1 - 0 Celtic

Who the hell are Lincoln Red Imps? Well they are the part time Gibraltarian champions......

[Orm]

Who the hell are Lincoln Red Imps? Well they are the part time Gibraltarian champions......

So Gibraltar has its own league?

That result makes me slightly worried because Europa FC are on a visit.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Orm

Who the hell are Lincoln Red Imps? Well they are the part time Gibraltarian champions......

So Gibraltar has its own league?

That result makes me slightly worried because Europa FC are on a visit.

warspite1

Why? You haven't got Brendan Rodgers in charge have you? [;)]

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Orm

Who the hell are Lincoln Red Imps? Well they are the part time Gibraltarian champions......

So Gibraltar has its own league?

That result makes me slightly worried because Europa FC are on a visit.

warspite1

Why? You haven't got Brendan Rodgers in charge have you? [;)]

No. We just sacked our manager and rehired one (after a few years away from the club) that is all but a saint to most supporters. Why has eluded me.

[loki100]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: loki100

realise you've all been waiting for an update on Scotland's glorious progress in the (very) early rounds of the Europa League.

Well Aberdeen managed to get past the champions of Luxembourg despite losing the second leg. They may yet make it to somewhere near the real competition.

warspite1

Never mind the Europa League..........

Lincoln Red Imps 1 - 0 Celtic

Who the hell are Lincoln Red Imps? Well they are the part time Gibraltarian champions......

Well I have to admit even I didn't expect Brendan to weave his particular form of footballing magic quite that quickly

#IsthisScoxit?

maybe they are only part time champions as they share it with the other team on alternate days?

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: loki100

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: loki100

realise you've all been waiting for an update on Scotland's glorious progress in the (very) early rounds of the Europa League.

Well Aberdeen managed to get past the champions of Luxembourg despite losing the second leg. They may yet make it to somewhere near the real competition.

warspite1

Never mind the Europa League..........

Lincoln Red Imps 1 - 0 Celtic

Who the hell are Lincoln Red Imps? Well they are the part time Gibraltarian champions......

Well I have to admit even I didn't expect Brendan to weave his particular form of footballing magic quite that quickly

#IsthisScoxit?

maybe they are only part time champions as they share it with the other team on alternate days?

warspite1

Maybe. But as Brendan says - there is no embarrassment in losing to a bunch of part-timers......

....I'm sure Roy will agree with him.

[loki100]

ORIGINAL: warspite1


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Maybe. But as Brendan says - there is no embarrassment in losing to a bunch of part-timers......

....I'm sure Roy will agree with him.

well look on the bright side [;)] .. he could well be available for the England job by this time next week?