I think our understanding of this tactic really potentially changes the game all the way to 45. Is there anyway you can sweep him? Look for bleeding CAP which usually the Allies have...your goal is simply to grind the Allied fighter pools down and any exchange around 1-1 in losses is really a win for you most of the time. Of course usually you are fighting his secondary fighters and get much better in your sweeps. Being relentless here is a Mr. Kane specialty.[&o]
The other thing I would watch out for is night bombing...can't remember your HR about it. But if he is stymied during the day, Allies will go night, and then they will seek to envelop and bombard. So, congratulations on your aerial defense here as you are buying time.[&o]
It is time for the Allies to adapt their tactics. What Tiemanj did was to sweep with large numbers at the most favorable manuever band of the attacking plane. He might have included high LRCAP too upon occasion. He also likes sweeping with Carrier wings which really do cooperate nicely. Multiple waves of sweepers with different planes were quite effective, but the first couple of sweepers did pay a steep price.
I have seen fighters arriving to sweep many, many times...and is unpleasant to see.[:(] Sometimes, though the cooperative sweeps are less effective than two consecutive sweeps. The more waves, usually the more the defenders suffer from op losses, plane damage, and fighter fatigue.
I would consider moving the Nicks off the front lines...their day doing this is over. There is a malus against fighting single engine fighters, and you no longer need their cannons. Pull them back and repurpose them. Kamikaze, Naval Strike, Strafe, Rear port/runway defense, CAP Traps is where they will shine for the rest of the game. Plus it will free up space for single engine planes.
The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_SqzMyLemon_Canoerebel (A)
Moderators: wdolson, MOD_War-in-the-Pacific-Admirals-Edition
RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
Yeah.... in cooperating sweeps, often not all of the planes participate. Often, for my guys, right before it ends one of my sweep squadrons will "join" the combat (the numbers jump from 23 planes left on my side of the window to 48, for example) and then the combat will stop, with 48 planes sweeping the base graphic. Makes me unsure whether those 25 additional planes were affecting the combat at all. Who knows...
Still, that's a really low total result for such a sweep.
I think those Jugs are flying at extended range or long range. The best place to fight them!
RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
I think our understanding of this tactic really potentially changes the game all the way to 45. Is there anyway you can sweep him? Look for bleeding CAP which usually the Allies have...your goal is simply to grind the Allied fighter pools down and any exchange around 1-1 in losses is really a win for you most of the time. Of course usually you are fighting his secondary fighters and get much better in your sweeps. Being relentless here is a Mr. Kane specialty.[&o]
I've swept the edges a few times, which indirectly may have led to the successful strikes on the TFs in the Solomons by discouraging bleeding or even LR CAP.
He's been good around major bases at keeping planes at 0 range. I swept all over Burma one turn since there are so many units to target, but no joy!
The other thing I would watch out for is night bombing...can't remember your HR about it. But if he is stymied during the day, Allies will go night, and then they will seek to envelop and bombard. So, congratulations on your aerial defense here as you are buying time.[&o]
We have 50 planes max for night bombing airfields and ports. Strategic is unlimited. I'm not too worried about it pre-B-29.
It is time for the Allies to adapt their tactics. What Tiemanj did was to sweep with large numbers at the most favorable manuever band of the attacking plane. He might have included high LRCAP too upon occasion. He also likes sweeping with Carrier wings which really do cooperate nicely. Multiple waves of sweepers with different planes were quite effective, but the first couple of sweepers did pay a steep price.
We also have a no CAP limit HR now, so I can potentially change it up and go high too! That is in the cards, and I'm waiting for a good moment to use it. That is essentially how I'd been crushing Torsten's sweeps in Burma. Flying at 34k no layers and he had to sweep lower.
now that Sqz could also sweep over 31k, he may do that, but then I just go low again! [;)]
I have seen fighters arriving to sweep many, many times...and is unpleasant to see.[:(] Sometimes, though the cooperative sweeps are less effective than two consecutive sweeps. The more waves, usually the more the defenders suffer from op losses, plane damage, and fighter fatigue.
I would consider moving the Nicks off the front lines...their day doing this is over. There is a malus against fighting single engine fighters, and you no longer need their cannons. Pull them back and repurpose them. Kamikaze, Naval Strike, Strafe, Rear port/runway defense, CAP Traps is where they will shine for the rest of the game. Plus it will free up space for single engine planes.
I might. I actually still like Nicks offensively. They're good sweepers and good escorts. So that is why they're here, really. They also do well when the bombers do arrive.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill
RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)
I have done that from time to time, mix in a high cap every now and then....works well with good radar.
RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)
[font="Times New Roman"]14-16 January, 1944[/font]
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SW PAC: [/font] Not a lot happening here until the 16th. I have been noticing a surge in ships around the southern Solomons, and I'm getting the feeling there may be movement soon.
I saw though recon that Munda has no guns. None. Not sure if those were wiped during previous landing attempts or if these are just engineers without guns, but it made me think it was high time for a strike to inhibit building and damage the fields for any upcoming op around here. I sent two Helen group after sweeps and they surprisingly found two fighter groups on the ground, Corsairs and P-39N1. They must have just moved in. The Helens had a bit of a weak strike but took out 4-5 fighters and got decent strikes o the base. I may strike here again but decided that sitting back for at least a turn in case of retribution was the best follow-up policy for the 17th.
He also swept at Kaveign, aware that I've stationed fighters there in prep to using this as a secondary strike base with its level 7 fields. (I have a big base force and an HQ en route, feeling that Rabaul was feeling a bit solitary down here and one or two good strikes cold really limit what I would be able to do there defensively).
Two P-38H groups swept, one at 21k and another at 31k. My Jacks did well against the low and not so well against the high, coming out roughly even after the encounter. I've moved more fighters in now.
Some B-25s targeted Shortlands also, which could be the next target if he wants a field closer to Rabaul. With Allied engineers he could take any tiny base and build it though, and that would be my move here. I'm guessing he'll be more directed at already built bases. I have about 70AV there now which won't stand long against anything bigger than a regiment.
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]BURMA: [/font] Some B-24 strike Taung Gyi, but flak does its job and the fields are relatively untouched after the turn. Not using the base anyway, and got a few with the flak guns.
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CHINA: [/font] Hami is about to fall, then it's on to Urumchi.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR January 16, 42
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Morning Air attack on Munda , at 111,134
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 17
N1K2-J George x 40
No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
40 x N1K2-J George sweeping at 31000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Munda , at 111,134
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 4
No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x N1K2-J George sweeping at 31000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Munda , at 111,134
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 12
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 6
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 29
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 8 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed on ground
P-39N1 Airacobra: 7 damaged
P-39N1 Airacobra: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 19
Aircraft Attacking:
29 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Munda , at 111,134
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 17
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 28
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 15
Allied aircraft
no flights
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
P-39N1 Airacobra: 3 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 4 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 5
Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 59,48
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 39
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 7 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 16
Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on Kavieng , at 106,122
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 27
Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 20
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-38H Lightning: 2 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 21000 feet
CAP engaged:
301 Ku S-1 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 13 on standby, 8 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 33000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
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Afternoon Air attack on Kavieng , at 106,122
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 37,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 12
Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 20
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 2 destroyed
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
16 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 31000 feet
CAP engaged:
301 Ku S-1 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 11 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 33000 , scrambling fighters between 24000 and 34000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
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[font="Trebuchet MS"]As this map shows there is a lot of activity in the region. Now that all of the forces involved in the OZ operation are back in central areas, I'll be sending them this way, including some Emilys, more Dinah III and Judy recons to search deeply into the Allied position. Although I've not seen CVs anywhere, there is a lot of consistent noise from Suva.
Will my reinforcements arrive in time to Kaveing and Namatani and Feni Islands? Will I be able to contest Shortlands and the middle Solomons if he throws in the CVs?
Shown here are the bases that are being reconned by the Allies. Targets? Interesting that Namatani is not being looked at.
This area is only meant for a roadblock delaying defense, so I have to be careful here not to get carried away and think I have to stop the Allies cold. This is about delay, taking some VPs in the process, and not committing too much. More to come. [/font]
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SW PAC: [/font] Not a lot happening here until the 16th. I have been noticing a surge in ships around the southern Solomons, and I'm getting the feeling there may be movement soon.
I saw though recon that Munda has no guns. None. Not sure if those were wiped during previous landing attempts or if these are just engineers without guns, but it made me think it was high time for a strike to inhibit building and damage the fields for any upcoming op around here. I sent two Helen group after sweeps and they surprisingly found two fighter groups on the ground, Corsairs and P-39N1. They must have just moved in. The Helens had a bit of a weak strike but took out 4-5 fighters and got decent strikes o the base. I may strike here again but decided that sitting back for at least a turn in case of retribution was the best follow-up policy for the 17th.
He also swept at Kaveign, aware that I've stationed fighters there in prep to using this as a secondary strike base with its level 7 fields. (I have a big base force and an HQ en route, feeling that Rabaul was feeling a bit solitary down here and one or two good strikes cold really limit what I would be able to do there defensively).
Two P-38H groups swept, one at 21k and another at 31k. My Jacks did well against the low and not so well against the high, coming out roughly even after the encounter. I've moved more fighters in now.
Some B-25s targeted Shortlands also, which could be the next target if he wants a field closer to Rabaul. With Allied engineers he could take any tiny base and build it though, and that would be my move here. I'm guessing he'll be more directed at already built bases. I have about 70AV there now which won't stand long against anything bigger than a regiment.
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]BURMA: [/font] Some B-24 strike Taung Gyi, but flak does its job and the fields are relatively untouched after the turn. Not using the base anyway, and got a few with the flak guns.
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CHINA: [/font] Hami is about to fall, then it's on to Urumchi.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR January 16, 42
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Morning Air attack on Munda , at 111,134
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 17
N1K2-J George x 40
No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
40 x N1K2-J George sweeping at 31000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Munda , at 111,134
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 4
No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x N1K2-J George sweeping at 31000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Munda , at 111,134
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 12
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 6
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 29
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 8 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed on ground
P-39N1 Airacobra: 7 damaged
P-39N1 Airacobra: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 19
Aircraft Attacking:
29 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Munda , at 111,134
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 17
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 28
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 15
Allied aircraft
no flights
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
P-39N1 Airacobra: 3 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 4 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 5
Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 59,48
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 39
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 7 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 16
Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
13 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on Kavieng , at 106,122
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 27
Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 20
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-38H Lightning: 2 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 21000 feet
CAP engaged:
301 Ku S-1 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 13 on standby, 8 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 33000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
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Afternoon Air attack on Kavieng , at 106,122
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 37,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 12
Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 20
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 2 destroyed
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
16 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 31000 feet
CAP engaged:
301 Ku S-1 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 11 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 33000 , scrambling fighters between 24000 and 34000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
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[font="Trebuchet MS"]As this map shows there is a lot of activity in the region. Now that all of the forces involved in the OZ operation are back in central areas, I'll be sending them this way, including some Emilys, more Dinah III and Judy recons to search deeply into the Allied position. Although I've not seen CVs anywhere, there is a lot of consistent noise from Suva.
Will my reinforcements arrive in time to Kaveing and Namatani and Feni Islands? Will I be able to contest Shortlands and the middle Solomons if he throws in the CVs?
Shown here are the bases that are being reconned by the Allies. Targets? Interesting that Namatani is not being looked at.
This area is only meant for a roadblock delaying defense, so I have to be careful here not to get carried away and think I have to stop the Allies cold. This is about delay, taking some VPs in the process, and not committing too much. More to come. [/font]
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)
[font="Times New Roman"]INVASIONS!!![/font]
There are some major events in the South Pacific going on during the past few turns, and I don't have nearly enough time to get into all of it right now, but I'll post a small but happy screenshot for now.
This is by no means an indication of how the entire day went as the USN got into full gear and began making up for lost time in a big way. It was fun and a bit sould crushing to watch about ten separate amphib TFs land troops at four different bases!! [:(][X(]
More to come.
There are some major events in the South Pacific going on during the past few turns, and I don't have nearly enough time to get into all of it right now, but I'll post a small but happy screenshot for now.
This is by no means an indication of how the entire day went as the USN got into full gear and began making up for lost time in a big way. It was fun and a bit sould crushing to watch about ten separate amphib TFs land troops at four different bases!! [:(][X(]
More to come.
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)
Admiral Kurita would be jealous.
RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)
[font="Times New Roman"]17 January, 1944[/font]
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font] The day starts with the return of the Allied subs. Bonefish hits xAK Fusemi Maru near Truk, empty luckily.
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SW PAC: [/font] Sweeps roll in all over the place. The first hits Umboi where I had Georges up high for a change, and got a good 1:1 with some Jugs. Then the barrage against Rabaul began. A few waves of Spits and Corsairs, then the B-24s. I got the scrambling message from the start here, with radar notice a solid 27 minutes for the big boys. The P-38s did a fine job of getting the bombers through unfortunately, and they did serious business at the very full Rabaul fields. The next waves met a hornets nest though and paid back the favor, some small packets completely obliterated between the fighters and the flak.
The CAP did well right up until the Juds arrived after the bombing runs. Then it was carnage. Yuck. A tired CAP all out of shape and the beasts diving from 40k.
Still, on the day he lost between 50-60 4E and a number of good fighters over our territory. The fields are open, but the issue is that a huge fleet appeared near Rekata Bay in the Solomons. As expected, something is up.
There will be no major response, but I have mobilized a few reaction forces to see if we can take a chunk out of anything coming. The KB is setting sail in a precautionary manner as it's been in port in the HI for several months upgrading and letting groups train while not using fuel. I'll bring them to at least the Marianas just in case there is dire need or this is not what I think it is. He does hae a large Death Star now and can basically go where he likes. Not knowing where the KB is located is my only wild card here. I'll keep it close for now.
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CHINA: [/font] In a small victory Hami falls and forces now move to Urumchi.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR January 17, 42
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Morning Air attack on Umboi Island , at 100,125
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 32
Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 3 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 31000 feet
CAP engaged:
Yokosuka Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 33000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 52
N1K1-J George x 27
N1K2-J George x 71
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 9
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 36
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 29
Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 2
F4U-1 Corsair x 24
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed
CAP engaged:
204 Ku S-1 with N1K2-J George (0 airborne, 18 on standby, 18 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
253 Ku S-2 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 17 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
254 Ku S-1 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 9 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
301 Ku S-2 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 13 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
Hiryu-1 with N1K2-J George (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 13 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
21st Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 14 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
26th Sentai with Ki-43-IIIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
30th Sentai with Ki-43-IIIa Oscar (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
78th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
87th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 45
N1K1-J George x 22
N1K2-J George x 65
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 8
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 34
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 22
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 12
B-24D1 Liberator x 33
P-38H Lightning x 35
F4U-1 Corsair x 2
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 3 damaged
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-46-III Dinah: 2 destroyed on ground
H8K2-L Emily: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-48-IIb Lily: 1 destroyed on ground
L2D2 Tabby: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-56 Thalia: 3 destroyed on ground
H8K2 Emily: 3 destroyed on ground
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 destroyed, 20 damaged
P-38H Lightning: 2 destroyed
Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 11
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 39
N1K1-J George x 21
N1K2-J George x 59
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 8
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 24
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 19
Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 8
P-38H Lightning x 23
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
P-38H Lightning: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 68 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 36
N1K1-J George x 19
N1K2-J George x 53
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 6
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 22
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 18
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 7
F4U-1 Corsair x 11
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 60 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 32
N1K1-J George x 17
N1K2-J George x 49
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 5
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 21
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 14
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 8
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 4 destroyed
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
[font="Trebuchet MS"]ALL WIPED OUT! [X(][/font]
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 64 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 30
N1K1-J George x 15
N1K2-J George x 42
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 4
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 18
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 11
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 8
Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 5 destroyed
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 27
N1K1-J George x 12
N1K2-J George x 31
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 3
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 12
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 7
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 8
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
H8K2-L Emily: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
Runway hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 25
N1K1-J George x 11
N1K2-J George x 24
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 2
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 10
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 7
Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 23
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 5 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
13 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 40000 feet *
CAP engaged:
204 Ku S-1 with N1K2-J George (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 35300.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
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Ground combat at Hami (81,17)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 2160 troops, 0 guns, 207 vehicles, Assault Value = 104
Defending force 3448 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22
Japanese adjusted assault: 78
Allied adjusted defense: 16
Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Hami !!!
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
I-16-III: 9 destroyed
Combat modifiers
Defender: experience(-)
Attacker:
Allied ground losses:
1568 casualties reported
Squads: 52 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 35 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 12 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 2
Assaulting units:
5th Armored Car Co
15th Tank Regiment
9th Armored Car Co
2nd Tank Regiment
Defending units:
9th Separate Brigade
21st Chinese Base Force
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[font="Trebuchet MS"]I don't see much in the way of CVs here, but I'd guess this is CVEs and the Death Star lurks behind. There is a lot more at Kira Kira and in the lower Solomons. Minelayers are moving and MTBs and midgets are being mobilized at Rabaul. [/font]
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font] The day starts with the return of the Allied subs. Bonefish hits xAK Fusemi Maru near Truk, empty luckily.
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SW PAC: [/font] Sweeps roll in all over the place. The first hits Umboi where I had Georges up high for a change, and got a good 1:1 with some Jugs. Then the barrage against Rabaul began. A few waves of Spits and Corsairs, then the B-24s. I got the scrambling message from the start here, with radar notice a solid 27 minutes for the big boys. The P-38s did a fine job of getting the bombers through unfortunately, and they did serious business at the very full Rabaul fields. The next waves met a hornets nest though and paid back the favor, some small packets completely obliterated between the fighters and the flak.
The CAP did well right up until the Juds arrived after the bombing runs. Then it was carnage. Yuck. A tired CAP all out of shape and the beasts diving from 40k.
Still, on the day he lost between 50-60 4E and a number of good fighters over our territory. The fields are open, but the issue is that a huge fleet appeared near Rekata Bay in the Solomons. As expected, something is up.
There will be no major response, but I have mobilized a few reaction forces to see if we can take a chunk out of anything coming. The KB is setting sail in a precautionary manner as it's been in port in the HI for several months upgrading and letting groups train while not using fuel. I'll bring them to at least the Marianas just in case there is dire need or this is not what I think it is. He does hae a large Death Star now and can basically go where he likes. Not knowing where the KB is located is my only wild card here. I'll keep it close for now.
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CHINA: [/font] In a small victory Hami falls and forces now move to Urumchi.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR January 17, 42
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Morning Air attack on Umboi Island , at 100,125
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 32
Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 3 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 31000 feet
CAP engaged:
Yokosuka Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 33000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 52
N1K1-J George x 27
N1K2-J George x 71
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 9
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 36
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 29
Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 2
F4U-1 Corsair x 24
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed
CAP engaged:
204 Ku S-1 with N1K2-J George (0 airborne, 18 on standby, 18 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
253 Ku S-2 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 17 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
254 Ku S-1 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 9 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
301 Ku S-2 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 13 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
Hiryu-1 with N1K2-J George (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 13 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
21st Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 14 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
26th Sentai with Ki-43-IIIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
30th Sentai with Ki-43-IIIa Oscar (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
78th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
87th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 45
N1K1-J George x 22
N1K2-J George x 65
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 8
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 34
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 22
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 12
B-24D1 Liberator x 33
P-38H Lightning x 35
F4U-1 Corsair x 2
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 3 damaged
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-46-III Dinah: 2 destroyed on ground
H8K2-L Emily: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-48-IIb Lily: 1 destroyed on ground
L2D2 Tabby: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-56 Thalia: 3 destroyed on ground
H8K2 Emily: 3 destroyed on ground
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 destroyed, 20 damaged
P-38H Lightning: 2 destroyed
Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 11
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 39
N1K1-J George x 21
N1K2-J George x 59
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 8
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 24
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 19
Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 8
P-38H Lightning x 23
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
P-38H Lightning: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 68 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 36
N1K1-J George x 19
N1K2-J George x 53
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 6
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 22
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 18
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 7
F4U-1 Corsair x 11
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 60 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 32
N1K1-J George x 17
N1K2-J George x 49
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 5
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 21
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 14
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 8
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 4 destroyed
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
[font="Trebuchet MS"]ALL WIPED OUT! [X(][/font]
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 64 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 30
N1K1-J George x 15
N1K2-J George x 42
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 4
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 18
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 11
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 8
Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 5 destroyed
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 27
N1K1-J George x 12
N1K2-J George x 31
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 3
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 12
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 7
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 8
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
H8K2-L Emily: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
Runway hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 20000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 25
N1K1-J George x 11
N1K2-J George x 24
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 2
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 10
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 7
Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 23
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 5 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
13 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 40000 feet *
CAP engaged:
204 Ku S-1 with N1K2-J George (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 35300.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
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Ground combat at Hami (81,17)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 2160 troops, 0 guns, 207 vehicles, Assault Value = 104
Defending force 3448 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22
Japanese adjusted assault: 78
Allied adjusted defense: 16
Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Hami !!!
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
I-16-III: 9 destroyed
Combat modifiers
Defender: experience(-)
Attacker:
Allied ground losses:
1568 casualties reported
Squads: 52 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 35 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 12 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 2
Assaulting units:
5th Armored Car Co
15th Tank Regiment
9th Armored Car Co
2nd Tank Regiment
Defending units:
9th Separate Brigade
21st Chinese Base Force
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[font="Trebuchet MS"]I don't see much in the way of CVs here, but I'd guess this is CVEs and the Death Star lurks behind. There is a lot more at Kira Kira and in the lower Solomons. Minelayers are moving and MTBs and midgets are being mobilized at Rabaul. [/font]
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)
[font="Times New Roman"]17 January, 1944 (cont.)[/font]
Here is the view of the Allied fleets beginning to strike. Looks like Shortlands, but can't be sure here. I'm preparing for anything and everything.
Air strikes will be limited and I'll try to direct them away from any main fleet that appears by restricting range and search. I'll only commit two 36 plane Judy groups, two 27 plane Lily DB groups, 27 Frances and 45 Kates.
On the surface I have 4 old DDs, 3 fast TB/E, plus a little surprise lurking out near Truk. Depending on how long this takes I'll also have some CA and CVE coming in for a look around.
Here is the view of the Allied fleets beginning to strike. Looks like Shortlands, but can't be sure here. I'm preparing for anything and everything.
Air strikes will be limited and I'll try to direct them away from any main fleet that appears by restricting range and search. I'll only commit two 36 plane Judy groups, two 27 plane Lily DB groups, 27 Frances and 45 Kates.
On the surface I have 4 old DDs, 3 fast TB/E, plus a little surprise lurking out near Truk. Depending on how long this takes I'll also have some CA and CVE coming in for a look around.
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)
Holy cow, the B-24D losses in a single day [X(]. Where are his B-24J's, though? It's 1/44, he should have them?
RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
Holy cow, the B-24D losses in a single day [X(]. Where are his B-24J's, though? It's 1/44, he should have them?
They're all in CBI. They took a similar hit over there a month ago. Here these have been getting a bit slammed as he's trying to close Rabaul. The losses have to add up, but the toll on my service 3 fighters is significant. Sweeps and 4Es day after day and suddenly 1/3 of the fighters are on the ground.
Luckily the N1K2 and J2M3 are filling in and the Ki-100 is close, due in about a month. I don't have Franks down here yet either.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill
RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)
The next turn started as I'd expected; an invasion at Shortlands.
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MTBs shot around the area and had several good engagements, but couldn't get in close to land a hit with the fish. Damn!
These are in small TFs because I only have two of the 38knot, two 29 knot, and the rest are all 22 knot.
These are in small TFs because I only have two of the 38knot, two 29 knot, and the rest are all 22 knot.
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)
In the daylight some small strikes went out to find the Allies and find them they did. Unfortunately, this shot is the beginning of the engagement, when I thought they might have a chance to get through. After this the CAP got to 500+ Hellcats!!! This is the full Death Star!
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)
After another strike also failed hitting the TFs at Shortlands the 4Es hit Rabaul again. Sweeps from three Spit groups again preceded the beasts and didn't do as well as previous turns. maybe they're wearing out.
This time the P-38s again were tough, but the CAP was strong and got to the bombers again. The real killer though was the flak today. He lowered altitude to 12k and lost ~18 planes to flak!! [X(]
This time the P-38s again were tough, but the CAP was strong and got to the bombers again. The real killer though was the flak today. He lowered altitude to 12k and lost ~18 planes to flak!! [X(]
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)
[font="Times New Roman"]18 January, 1944[/font]
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SW PAC: [/font] This seems bigger than it did the turn before. Now, with the entire Allied CV fleet a fwe hexes from Rabaul I wonder if he's going big. There are a lot of trailing TFs,marauding DD TFs and some big boys in the mix. Whenever I see multiple TFs that have assault shipping identified I know it's no joke. A lot of search planes lost though since the CAP is at around 600 fighters!! [X(]
He's landed all he's going to need at Shortlands. The base will fall soon, but I'm more worried about what comes next. Will he come for Rabaul?
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR January 18, 42
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Green Island at 109,127
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 118 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 18
D4Y1 Judy x 23
N1K1-J George x 22
Allied aircraft
FM-1 Wildcat x 54
F4U-1A Corsair x 38
F6F-3 Hellcat x 532
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 4 destroyed
D4Y1 Judy: 14 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 3
A6M5b Zero x 6
J2M2 Jack x 63
N1K1-J George x 40
N1K2-J George x 18
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 10
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 39
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 6
Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 14
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 3 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Spitfire VIII sweeping at 31000 feet *
CAP engaged:
Yokosuka Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (1 airborne, 9 on standby, 6 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 3
A6M5b Zero x 4
J2M2 Jack x 50
N1K1-J George x 29
N1K2-J George x 17
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 8
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 29
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 6
Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 48
P-38H Lightning x 38
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed on ground
N1K2-J George: 13 damaged
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground
H8K2-L Emily: 3 destroyed on ground
L2D2 Tabby: 1 destroyed on ground
D4Y1-C Judy: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 3 destroyed, 19 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 3 destroyed by flak
P-38H Lightning: 3 destroyed
Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 15
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 3
A6M5b Zero x 3
J2M2 Jack x 40
N1K1-J George x 25
N1K2-J George x 12
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 6
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 25
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 4
Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 11
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 destroyed by flak
Runway hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 37,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 2
A6M5b Zero x 1
J2M2 Jack x 20
N1K1-J George x 10
N1K2-J George x 4
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 1
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 13
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1
Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
J2M2 Jack: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
8 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 31000 feet *
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Ground combat at Shortlands (109,131)
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 2279 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 77
Defending force 9168 troops, 366 guns, 363 vehicles, Assault Value = 263
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Assaulting units:
1st South Seas Det.
3rd Indpt SNLF Coy
40th Const Co
51st JNAF AF Unit /1
Defending units:
763rd Tank Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
3rd NZ Bde /1
12th NZ Bde /1
57th Coastal Artillery Regiment
181st USAAF Base Force /3
76th Cst AA Rgt /6
611th Cst AA Rgt /4
221st USN Base Force /3
229th USN Base Force /1
Southwest Pacific /2
XIII US Bomber Cmnd
226th USN Base Force /1
7th Marine Def Bn /2
607th Cst AA Rgt /6
257th USAAF Base Force /1
32nd Aviation Base Force /3
610th Cst AA Rgt /7
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[font="Trebuchet MS"]I'm kicking my self a bit that I set those strikes to go. A little bit trigger happy.
His 4E losses are again horrific. How many of these can he run?[/font]
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SW PAC: [/font] This seems bigger than it did the turn before. Now, with the entire Allied CV fleet a fwe hexes from Rabaul I wonder if he's going big. There are a lot of trailing TFs,marauding DD TFs and some big boys in the mix. Whenever I see multiple TFs that have assault shipping identified I know it's no joke. A lot of search planes lost though since the CAP is at around 600 fighters!! [X(]
He's landed all he's going to need at Shortlands. The base will fall soon, but I'm more worried about what comes next. Will he come for Rabaul?
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR January 18, 42
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Green Island at 109,127
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 118 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 18
D4Y1 Judy x 23
N1K1-J George x 22
Allied aircraft
FM-1 Wildcat x 54
F4U-1A Corsair x 38
F6F-3 Hellcat x 532
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 4 destroyed
D4Y1 Judy: 14 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 3
A6M5b Zero x 6
J2M2 Jack x 63
N1K1-J George x 40
N1K2-J George x 18
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 10
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 39
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 6
Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 14
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 3 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Spitfire VIII sweeping at 31000 feet *
CAP engaged:
Yokosuka Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (1 airborne, 9 on standby, 6 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 3
A6M5b Zero x 4
J2M2 Jack x 50
N1K1-J George x 29
N1K2-J George x 17
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 8
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 29
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 6
Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 48
P-38H Lightning x 38
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed on ground
N1K2-J George: 13 damaged
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground
H8K2-L Emily: 3 destroyed on ground
L2D2 Tabby: 1 destroyed on ground
D4Y1-C Judy: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 3 destroyed, 19 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 3 destroyed by flak
P-38H Lightning: 3 destroyed
Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 15
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 3
A6M5b Zero x 3
J2M2 Jack x 40
N1K1-J George x 25
N1K2-J George x 12
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 6
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 25
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 4
Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 11
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 destroyed by flak
Runway hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 37,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 2
A6M5b Zero x 1
J2M2 Jack x 20
N1K1-J George x 10
N1K2-J George x 4
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 1
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 13
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1
Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
J2M2 Jack: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
8 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 31000 feet *
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Ground combat at Shortlands (109,131)
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 2279 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 77
Defending force 9168 troops, 366 guns, 363 vehicles, Assault Value = 263
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Assaulting units:
1st South Seas Det.
3rd Indpt SNLF Coy
40th Const Co
51st JNAF AF Unit /1
Defending units:
763rd Tank Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
3rd NZ Bde /1
12th NZ Bde /1
57th Coastal Artillery Regiment
181st USAAF Base Force /3
76th Cst AA Rgt /6
611th Cst AA Rgt /4
221st USN Base Force /3
229th USN Base Force /1
Southwest Pacific /2
XIII US Bomber Cmnd
226th USN Base Force /1
7th Marine Def Bn /2
607th Cst AA Rgt /6
257th USAAF Base Force /1
32nd Aviation Base Force /3
610th Cst AA Rgt /7
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[font="Trebuchet MS"]I'm kicking my self a bit that I set those strikes to go. A little bit trigger happy.
His 4E losses are again horrific. How many of these can he run?[/font]
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)
Here is a look at the area now. The highlighted TF running in is my surprise. Still unseen, these are the Mutsu and Nagato with five old DDs. They'll run at flank into the mess and have a home port of Kaveing, hoping to be outside the main combat areas by daylight. Wishful thinking, I know, but had to try something here, and I did set two 45 plane groups to LR CAP. Against the full DS that might not matter, but we'll see!
Minelayers went for Rabaul and Kaveing, PTs are everywhere and midgets are covering most bases. Fleet subs will work the edges out in the deep water for the most part.
Minelayers went for Rabaul and Kaveing, PTs are everywhere and midgets are covering most bases. Fleet subs will work the edges out in the deep water for the most part.
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)
Just from looking at the total 4E lost, it doesn't seem like much given the date.[:(]
However, I am sure he has to juggle pilots and replacements.
However, I am sure he has to juggle pilots and replacements.
RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)
Comparing the B24D losses to my game, he might be short of them...so I take back my previous statement a little.[;)]
RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A)
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Comparing the B24D losses to my game, he might be short of them...so I take back my previous statement a little.[;)]
He'll have the 'J' in quantity enough but in this area it will be at least a week or two before they get back to full strength if he has to upgrade. My fighters are struggling to stay in the game though. Tough going at Rabaul. I think the losses are worth it for him if the sweeps now continue to work the place. He hasn't used any 2E here to follow up but that could be next.
As you can see by this another one of these kitchen sink raids would knock us out, and it could be coming. About 40-50 more of these will be in working order by tomorrow but it'll still be tough if the CV planes get involved.
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