Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Lowpe (J)

[obvert]

yeah that should be enough! [:D]

Won't probably help him much with SD though. You've played this well.

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: obvert

yeah that should be enough! [:D]

Won't probably help him much with SD though. You've played this well.

Thanks. A lot of luck though. [:)]

Without that 10/10 DL on the sub he would have cut the rail before the strat reserve was railed in...[X(]

[Lokasenna]

That's nowhere near 'all' [:'(]

[ny59giants]

This game may have Allied players reconsidering on where to build forts past level 6. I've done it very few times, but bases like Chittagong may need to go up past 6 now if your stand at San Diego shows that BBs can do very little against high forts even in clear terrain. Add a couple of those big SeaBee Rgts and you can build concrete reinforced condos on the beachfront. [:D]

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Hehe, yeah you did. Problem with letting him come to me in LA is that he is never going to attack there though. He doesn´t even have half the raw AV. Its x3 terrain and he knows for sure there are forts there. Just not how many. So he is not going to attack. He is just trying (successfully) to block me in.

I´ll attack again next turn. I´ll grind him down eventually as I can recover and cycle troops in and out. He can´t. [:)]

Taking the contrarian position, I'd ask why you're in such a hurry to beat him, eject him, off the WC? If he doesn't attack at LA, great! He sits prime LCUs--that can't really hurt yours--on a foreign shore, eating groceries and getting sniped by air power. Why is that bad for you? They're at LA they're not in the DEI, for example.

Instead, you handed him almost two good divisions for very little return. Do you need the guys at LA to defend SD? You've said you think SD is fine now, so no.

Why attack out of Level 9 forts at LA? It's water under the bridge, but maybe you don't go back upstream at this point.

[crsutton]

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

This was my face when I saw the LA attack...

1 to 35 odds. Ouch.

I'm not sure, coulda been dreaming, can't say, might be wrong . . .

. . . but didn't somebody say "Don't attack at LA. Let him come at you behind the forts you so expensively built"? And that person was promptly shouted down by the Maneuver War brigade?

1 to 35. Sheesh. If you'd have had the whole LA stack attack might it have been 1 to 10?

There will be a significant difference when you get the chance to upgrade to the 43 squads. 42 squads have low firepower and virtually no AT values. 43 is much better.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Hehe, yeah you did. Problem with letting him come to me in LA is that he is never going to attack there though. He doesn´t even have half the raw AV. Its x3 terrain and he knows for sure there are forts there. Just not how many. So he is not going to attack. He is just trying (successfully) to block me in.

I´ll attack again next turn. I´ll grind him down eventually as I can recover and cycle troops in and out. He can´t. [:)]

Taking the contrarian position, I'd ask why you're in such a hurry to beat him, eject him, off the WC? If he doesn't attack at LA, great! He sits prime LCUs--that can't really hurt yours--on a foreign shore, eating groceries and getting sniped by air power. Why is that bad for you? They're at LA they're not in the DEI, for example.

Instead, you handed him almost two good divisions for very little return. Do you need the guys at LA to defend SD? You've said you think SD is fine now, so no.

Why attack out of Level 9 forts at LA? It's water under the bridge, but maybe you don't go back upstream at this point.

I have no experience with this point so I want to confirm: have the factories at LA and SD that produce aircraft ceased production, or are they still pumping out birds?

[IJV]

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Hehe, yeah you did. Problem with letting him come to me in LA is that he is never going to attack there though. He doesn´t even have half the raw AV. Its x3 terrain and he knows for sure there are forts there. Just not how many. So he is not going to attack. He is just trying (successfully) to block me in.

I´ll attack again next turn. I´ll grind him down eventually as I can recover and cycle troops in and out. He can´t. [:)]

Taking the contrarian position, I'd ask why you're in such a hurry to beat him, eject him, off the WC? If he doesn't attack at LA, great! He sits prime LCUs--that can't really hurt yours--on a foreign shore, eating groceries and getting sniped by air power. Why is that bad for you? They're at LA they're not in the DEI, for example.

Instead, you handed him almost two good divisions for very little return. Do you need the guys at LA to defend SD? You've said you think SD is fine now, so no.

Why attack out of Level 9 forts at LA? It's water under the bridge, but maybe you don't go back upstream at this point.

I think specifically the problem is supply at San Diego - namely that there isn't, in the grand scheme of things, very much of it (iirc 50k on D+2 of the invasion? can't remember what was posted), so being passive elsewhere would tend to lead to that becoming a potential Problem very quickly (or at least more so than it will as things stand).

Which, of course, begs the question - how's that situation now ?

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Hehe, yeah you did. Problem with letting him come to me in LA is that he is never going to attack there though. He doesn´t even have half the raw AV. Its x3 terrain and he knows for sure there are forts there. Just not how many. So he is not going to attack. He is just trying (successfully) to block me in.

I´ll attack again next turn. I´ll grind him down eventually as I can recover and cycle troops in and out. He can´t. [:)]

Taking the contrarian position, I'd ask why you're in such a hurry to beat him, eject him, off the WC? If he doesn't attack at LA, great! He sits prime LCUs--that can't really hurt yours--on a foreign shore, eating groceries and getting sniped by air power. Why is that bad for you? They're at LA they're not in the DEI, for example.

Instead, you handed him almost two good divisions for very little return. Do you need the guys at LA to defend SD? You've said you think SD is fine now, so no.

Why attack out of Level 9 forts at LA? It's water under the bridge, but maybe you don't go back upstream at this point.

I have no experience with this point so I want to confirm: have the factories at LA and SD that produce aircraft ceased production, or are they still pumping out birds?

I don't see why they wouldn't? The only things that don't are apparently HI, but also Resources/Oil.

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: IJV

I think specifically the problem is supply at San Diego - namely that there isn't, in the grand scheme of things, very much of it (iirc 50k on D+2 of the invasion? can't remember what was posted), so being passive elsewhere would tend to lead to that becoming a potential Problem very quickly (or at least more so than it will as things stand).

Which, of course, begs the question - how's that situation now ?

In stock SD has 160 LI and 40HI. I don't recall his Resources there, but he has a million fuel. If he has Resources even a sealed base should be fine on supply for the rest of 1943.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: witpqs

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58




Taking the contrarian position, I'd ask why you're in such a hurry to beat him, eject him, off the WC? If he doesn't attack at LA, great! He sits prime LCUs--that can't really hurt yours--on a foreign shore, eating groceries and getting sniped by air power. Why is that bad for you? They're at LA they're not in the DEI, for example.

Instead, you handed him almost two good divisions for very little return. Do you need the guys at LA to defend SD? You've said you think SD is fine now, so no.

Why attack out of Level 9 forts at LA? It's water under the bridge, but maybe you don't go back upstream at this point.

I have no experience with this point so I want to confirm: have the factories at LA and SD that produce aircraft ceased production, or are they still pumping out birds?

I don't see why they wouldn't? The only things that don't are apparently HI, but also Resources/Oil.

Just want to verify how it works. [8D]

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
Taking the contrarian position, I'd ask why you're in such a hurry to beat him, eject him, off the WC? If he doesn't attack at LA, great! He sits prime LCUs--that can't really hurt yours--on a foreign shore, eating groceries and getting sniped by air power. Why is that bad for you? They're at LA they're not in the DEI, for example.

Instead, you handed him almost two good divisions for very little return. Do you need the guys at LA to defend SD? You've said you think SD is fine now, so no.

Why attack out of Level 9 forts at LA? It's water under the bridge, but maybe you don't go back upstream at this point.

If I knew that SD was 100% sure I would be in no hurry whatsoever. But for every division worth of troops disabled at LA means one division left on SD.

To my knowledge I never said SD was fine. I said I *think* its fine but its not something to take chances on. Besides my attacks have been going quite well at LA. Doing at least the same amount of damage I suffered. This obviously is the exception. But not unexpected considering only 2 divisions attacked.

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: witpqs
I have no experience with this point so I want to confirm: have the factories at LA and SD that produce aircraft ceased production, or are they still pumping out birds?

They are still producing. [:)]

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: IJV
I think specifically the problem is supply at San Diego - namely that there isn't, in the grand scheme of things, very much of it (iirc 50k on D+2 of the invasion? can't remember what was posted), so being passive elsewhere would tend to lead to that becoming a potential Problem very quickly (or at least more so than it will as things stand).

Which, of course, begs the question - how's that situation now ?

For now its unchanged. 51k supply. This despite BB bombardments and strat bombing from the air as well as two ground bombardments. So I´m still getting supply there. [:)]

[JocMeister]

Still no turn. Maybe today...

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

To my knowledge I never said SD was fine. I said I *think* its fine but its not something to take chances on. Besides my attacks have been going quite well at LA. Doing at least the same amount of damage I suffered. This obviously is the exception. But not unexpected considering only 2 divisions attacked.

Since you have some time, can you post the CRs for the other attacks? I'd like to see a full-stack Allied attack.

[JocMeister]

On the phone right now but they are all in the AAR if you want to check. [:)]

EDIT: Page 91 for the last one. I can´t remember if it was all troops or if some where resting. I think the 3rd Marines might have been in reserve mode.

[JocMeister]

Gah, got the turn last night but Jeff had forgotten to end it. [:(]

[JocMeister]

[font="Verdana"]Los Angeles[/font]
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Ah, not too bad. At it again tomorrow boys!

Obviously the 4th Motorizes is shot. They will rotate out and be replaced by the 91st ID.

[JocMeister]

[font="Verdana"]Airlosses[/font]
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Another tough day for the Japanese. How many more can he take? Given my prior experience waiting/hoping for Japanese pools to run dry is...futile though.