surrender china or not surrender china

[quiritus]

N/D 41. China is reduced two factory with a single resource (burma road is cut with land unit) . both city are full garrisoned.

US have a very bad chits drow:first gear up (option 22) next turn (J/F 42)

Germany is ready for Barb 42

Japan i think don't conquer china before US is in war

so surrender china or not surrender?

[AlbertN]

I am truly puzzled how USA got that bad chits but I'd not surrender China yet.

What you have to consider is that the moment China go off, if Japan is not at war with any major their R (Reserve) units go back to Reserve. And they can take only Combined Actions with heavy naval limits (2 ships, not 2 stacks!)
Unless they're at war with the Soviets.

'42 Chits are also better than '41 - so if you are to surrender China, do it when USA is ready to strike - having the Japanese suddenly "lose troops" and have an amount of troops pinned into inland of China.

[quiritus]

ORIGINAL: Cohen

I am truly puzzled how USA got that bad chits

i' m puzzled too: i see this with a aggressive allied on 1939-1940, but the only not standard allied action in this game is DOW on Portugal in 1940. and US keep no chit at all from chinese city, very bad luck.

What you have to consider is that the moment China go off, if Japan is not at war with any major their R (Reserve) units go back to Reserve. And they can take only Combined Actions with heavy naval limits (2 ships, not 2 stacks!)
Unless they're at war with the Soviets.

yes. but i think that axis want to go for dow on urss on both map in M/J 42 anyway, so the no active combined limit it's for two turn only. and every turn we wait is another chit that US don' t keep.

'42 Chits are also better than '41 - so if you are to surrender China, do it when USA is ready to strike - having the Japanese suddenly "lose troops" and have an amount of troops pinned into inland of China.

this is true, but when germany declar war to URSS a lot of early years chit, now on the border, go to the USA pool pushing down average.

[Orm]

this is true, but when germany declar war to URSS a lot of early years chit, now on the border, go to the USA pool pushing down average.

This is true for the board game but not for MWIF.

[paulderynck]

ORIGINAL: Orm

this is true, but when germany declar war to URSS a lot of early years chit, now on the border, go to the USA pool pushing down average.

This is true for the board game but not for MWIF.

Good point.

In MWiF the odds remain the same based on (roughly) the odds for the year in question.

[Centuur]

I would not surrender China. What you have to think about is that the US effect is halved when China surrenders...