Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[Hongjian]

I have been playing "The Lost Province" scenario (very well crafted scenario, btw!) and found out that it is incredibly hard for the PLA Rocket Force to shut down any ROCAF/Taiwanese airbases with even huge amounts of DF-11A SRBM due to the lack of accuracy on the mainstay SRBMs, the DF-11A.
The DB gives a CEP of 600m for both the basic DF-11 of the 90s and the improved 2000s DF-11A, which results in them not being able to hit even a runway even if launched en-masse. What I found weird is that the DF-11A also has the same CEP of the basic DF-11 of 600m.
Wikipedia, citing MissileThread and Global Security, say that the DF-11A has improved Beidou/GPS guidance which raises its CEP to 20-30m.

http://missilethreat.com/missiles/df-11-11a-css-7/


Fixed Thanks

[jun5896]

Daegu-Class (ROKN FFX Batch-II), 2018

Displacement:
2,800 t, 3,600 t (full load)
Length: 122 m
Beam: 14.2 m
Draft: 4.15 m
Propulsion: CODOG, 2 shafts, 2 x MTU 12V 1163 TB83 diesel engine, 1 x Rolls Royce MT30 gas turbine engine
Speed: 30 knots (56 km/h; 35 mph) (max), 18 knots (33 km/h; 21 mph) (cruising)
Range: 8,100 km
Complement: 120
Sensors and processing systems: SPS-550K search radar, SPG-540K tracking radar, Hanhwa Thales EOTS
SQS-240K sonar, SQR-220K towed array sonar
Electronic warfare & decoys: LIG Nex1 SLQ-200(V)K Sonata electronic warfare suite, KDAGAIE Mk2 decoys, SLQ-261K TACM
Armament:
1 x 5 inch Mk-45 Mod 4 (127mm/L62) naval gun
1 x 20 mm Phalanx Block 1B CIWS
2 x 4 SSM-700K Hae Sung anti-ship Missiles or 4 Tactical Ship-to-Surface Missiles (tentatively named : Hae Sung II; Guided Missile ~ 200-250km : Korean news Source)
2 x 3 K745 LW Blue Shark torpedoes
1 x KVLS 16-cells quadpack with Haegung K-SAAM(It is similar VL MICA maybe 10 - 12nm It will replace RAM) 32 round in 8-cells and Red Shark K-ASROC 8 round in 8-cells. KVLS also integrate Hyunmoo-3 B/C and Tactical Ship-to-Surface Missile
Aircraft carried: Super Lynx or Wildcat (1 medium slot)



http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... -navy.html
http://www.janes.com/article/61012/dsme ... ii-frigate


K-VLS


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_ ... References



LIG Nex1 Tactical Ship-to-Surface Missile (Guided Missile)

https://www.lignex1.com/eng/product/product01_02.jsp

Haegung K-SAAM

http://www.janes.com/article/55433/adex ... ce-by-2018

[Rocksoldier]

I think there is a minor DB error in Aircraft #4416 (wrong name)
As far as i know the SF-260AM was replaced in 2005 with SF-260EA

http://www.aeromedia.it/sf260ami.html

Fixed Thanks!

[VIF2NE]

#973 - Big Bird C [64N6] -- SA-20

Radar has two active surfaces, ScanInterval = 6 seconds (one full turn 12 seconds).
This radar is similar to High Screen A [9S19 Imbir]. He scans the space in two dimensions, so the information is updated more quickly than for "ScanInterval"

http://www.russianarms.ru/forum/index.php?topic=11388.0


Fixed Thanks

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: VIF2NE

#973 - Big Bird C [64N6] -- SA-20

Radar has two active surfaces, ScanInterval = 6 seconds (one full turn 12 seconds).
This radar is similar to High Screen A [9S19 Imbir]. He scans the space in two dimensions, so the information is updated more quickly than for "ScanInterval"

http://www.russianarms.ru/forum/index.php?topic=11388.0

Fixed. Thanks!

Mike

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: Hongjian

I have been playing "The Lost Province" scenario (very well crafted scenario, btw!) and found out that it is incredibly hard for the PLA Rocket Force to shut down any ROCAF/Taiwanese airbases with even huge amounts of DF-11A SRBM due to the lack of accuracy on the mainstay SRBMs, the DF-11A.
The DB gives a CEP of 600m for both the basic DF-11 of the 90s and the improved 2000s DF-11A, which results in them not being able to hit even a runway even if launched en-masse. What I found weird is that the DF-11A also has the same CEP of the basic DF-11 of 600m.
Wikipedia, citing MissileThread and Global Security, say that the DF-11A has improved Beidou/GPS guidance which raises its CEP to 20-30m.

http://missilethreat.com/missiles/df-11-11a-css-7/

Reduced it to 50. Found similar sources but none that low[:)]

Mike

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: Skjold

I would like to request these Algerian additions to the DB please.

S-400 (Unknown version, presumably SA-21a?) #1668
16 TEL Launchers in total.
Delivery 2015-2016.

Buk-M2E (SA-17 Grizzly) #1913
48 launchers in total.
Delivery 2014-2015.

Pantsir-S1E (SA-22 Greyhound) #1935
38 vehicles in total.
Delivery 2010-2013.

Sources:
http://armstrade.org/files/obrazecglava4.pdf (Page 14-15) - Note: This is in Russian.

Add Raptor II capability to #3197 Su-24MK2
Delivery 2008.

Edit: Seems very similar to the existing H4-SOW (#3311 & #3312) entry with these differences.

Payload:600 kg HE warhead
Range:200 km (108 nm)


Sources:
http://armstrade.org/files/obrazecglava4.pdf (Page 16) - Note: This is in Russian.
http://www.deneldynamics.co.za/products ... /raptor-ii - Mentions Su-24 Integration

I've searched but come up empty. Do you have any pictures of any of these SAM systems with algerian markings. I've only found one that is likely the S-300.

Thanks!

Mike

[benefant]

Please can you add the Y-12. ?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbin_Y-12

There are 3 Y-12's in the latest db for China, Kenya and Cambodia. Let me know if another nation is needed.

[benefant]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_Il-96


Il-96400
Il-96400 TZ tanker

[benefant]

#2083 and #3630
Eurofighter Austrian Airforce
They are not capable for AIM 120 AMRAAm
Only the IRIS-T

This was a political decision to special downgrade


So i think a light cap with 4 Iris and 3 drop tanks
And a heavy cap with 8 iris and 3 drop tanks


Please provide a source so we can make the change.

[wqc12345]

What about new Russian Vehicle Jammers?

Murmansk-BN’ and ‘Leyer-3’ aerial jamming system. And many others?

https://russiandefpolicy.wordpress.com/ ... re-part-i/

I was curious why these weren't in the DB?

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: wqc12345

What about new Russian Vehicle Jammers?

Murmansk-BN’ and ‘Leyer-3’ aerial jamming system. And many others?

https://russiandefpolicy.wordpress.com/ ... re-part-i/

I was curious why these weren't in the DB?

Why do we have to explain why its not in there yet?

Mike

[wqc12345]

You don't.

I should say, would you, most gracious devs, think about adding these units to the DB?

[Vici Supreme]

ORIGINAL: benefant

#2083 and #3630
Eurofighter Austrian Airforce
They are not capable for AIM 120 AMRAAm
Only the IRIS-T

This was a political decision to special downgrade


So i think a light cap with 4 Iris and 3 drop tanks
And a heavy cap with 8 iris and 3 drop tanks


Please provide a source so we can make the change.

These changes were implemented into the DB over a year ago. Make sure you are using the latest DB version.

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: wqc12345

You don't.

I should say, would you, most gracious devs, think about adding these units to the DB?

Yeah we're really like that.

Mike

[Hongjian]

There has been a huge update and an infodump on the wikipedia-page for the Type 346 or H/LJG-346 SAPAR, the 4-faced naval AESA that is equipped on the Type 052C and 052D Destroyers (And the Liaoning CV):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_346_Radar

It provides some specs on the performance of this AESA radar, which is conceptual close to the dual-band AN/APQ-53 radar of MIM-104 Patriot:

For Type 346:[4][5][14]

Total number of faces: 4
Bands: S and C
S-band array size & shape: octagon with 4 meter diameter
C-band array size & shape: ≈ 0.8 to 1 square meter rectangular ea.
Number of S-band arrays: 4 (1 per face)
Number of C-band arrays: 8 (2 per face)
Maximum search range (km): > 400
Weight (t): < 16 above deck
Scan: 120°
Elevation: 0° to 90°
Cooling: Air (Type 346), Liquid (Type 346A)

Type 346: First naval version with a large S-band array sandwiched between two rows of C-band arrays, utilizing air cooling system and identifiable by the curved surface of the cover of the radar array. Installed onboard Type 052C destroyers.

Type 346A: Development of Type 346 with increased number of T/R module and increased range, utilizing liquid cooling system and identifiable by the flat surface of the cover of the radar array. Installed onboard Type 052D destroyers.

[lowchi]

Northrop LAP (Low Altitude Penetrator) concept

https://theaviationist.com/2016/07/29/t ... r-concept/




Thanks for considering!

Regards Lowchi

[Zaslon]

Missing units:
Spanish CH-47D [HT.17] x17
9 converted from CH-47C from 1991-1993
3 converted in 1998
5 converted in 2002

Delta Standard but with RWR ALR-300 and Chaff dispenser ALE-40.

An entire modernization of the fleet to F version started in 2016
Boeing Magazine
Boeing web
Modernization announced (in spanish)

Thank you very much.

[VIF2NE]

The DB wants to have the units:
The cargo discharged from the aircraft.
The cargo discharged from a vessel.
Floating debris.
Floating wreckage.

[hellfish6]

Floating wreckage and floating debris could actually be kinda cool if LUA'd to a sinking/sunk ship.