Aditia vs. Darbymcd

[Peltonx]

OHH sht one other thing stop moving Army HQs and LW bases turns 1-4.

1+1=2 ====== more MP's when your 25+ hexes from RHs.

A VERY simple thing people over look when it comes to logistics.

If the sht don't move it does not use supplies - you don't need the LW until turn 7+ if that.

Just like in WitW WA's really don't need AF other then to drop supplies = German border in 6 turns landings which
is better then 1.0 start line to Leningrad in 6 turns.

Testers/ 2by3 and most players can't add 1+1=2 and try to figure out why I am still getting to Leningrad in 4 turns,
D-town in 4 and Stalino in 7 4 yrs after 7 nerfs.

good skill set but as good as you are your wasting fuel.

A+ taking what your given = like Hitler saving German manpower, you will easly be over 4.25 million men by June 42 -
unlike morveal 3.6 C-.

Great job newbie

[Aditia]

Thanks for the feedback Pelton. Yeah, fuel conservation only got onto my radar at turn 9 or so, doing better with it now, but I am steel feeling the effect of my overconsumption of fuel at the start.

Anyway, Turn 6:

It is becoming very clear that Leningrad is only very lightly defended.
Darbymcd explained to me that he wanted to try a different strategy this game:
- Heavily defend the south, enabling the evac of most of the industry there
- Defend Moscow
- Don't care about Leningrad

He calculates that if he can pull that off, the excess in saved industry will enable him to have a stronger 1943.
He wants to see if that can work as an alternative to the prevailing wisdom on the forum that holding Leningrad is key.

Apart from that, he admitted that he did not expect a drive on V-Luki at all, because none of his other opponents had any focus there.

[Aditia]

Leningrad AO:

HQBU results in outflanking the Luga line and most of the forces there are now trapped. Darbymcd did not think to defend the Janis, so the finns are now racing down Karelia.

[Aditia]

AGC

Smolensk is encircled and the PzCorps east of V-Luki has only 1 objective, and that is to prevent forts from being built while the infantry catches up.

[Aditia]

Gomel AO

Imminent link up of AGC and AGS. With Gomel now threatened the position between Chernigov and kiev seems untenable to me.

[Aditia]

AGS

I believe I did 1 HQBU on the Dnepr and moved up 2 Corps from 11th Army that will hopefully have enough MP next turn to do a deliberate assault across the Dnepr.

I had no clue what to do with my other Panzer forces here. I considered holding off on advancing and seeing if I can later on threaten to outflank D-town, but that seemed too risky and unsure for me. I opted to continue to drive forward to put pressure and expand the southern flank.

[Peltonx]

Then simply pocket pocket pocket.

They don't have to be uber. Every pocket is a little fewer trucks for him.

The arm/hvy really matters little. He can't rail out manpower - pocket and over run as many manpower points as you can. You only need 3 PD to take Leningrad at this point.

4 infantry divisions loaded with pioneers and 12 hvy artillery in I Corp with Model in charge. Start bombing the 1 port closed.

Once your set 4 I Corp divisions/ 1 in same Army and 1 PD from LVI Corp. Have 1 PD broken down and one hole in reserve mode. Have 4th PD HQ/AGN HQ withen 5 hexes also.

OK your rdy do a HQBU for I Corp and LVI then hit it next turn. It will fall withen 2 turns as fort lvl will drop like a cheap street trick.

make him move everything to save Moscow while you have fun in the south.

You have already gotten a draw at min

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: Aditia

Gomel AO

Imminent link up of AGC and AGS. With Gomel now threatened the position between Chernigov and kiev seems untenable to me.

This is probably a big mistake, you can close the marsh with 1 cav division ( until exploit is fixed ). Your PD are or will be in fuel hell in this area, cav units require zip for fuel or supplies.

The one u have can do same thing faster check my AAR's

[Aditia]

Turn 7

For this turn and the next couple turns my plan is simple.

North: Leningrad is open; prepare the assault and extract mobile forces when I can
Moscow: Recon shows troops moving into position to defend, but it seems too late to me. Here I am willing to over extend to deny forts to be built up.
South: He has a LOT of units in the south. I need to get across the Dnepr and force him to move. After I get across I can assess what to do next. He is on schedule in the south with evaccing industry, so my focus here is to destroy as much of the red army as I can and try and get to Stalino before mud.

Leningrad AO:

Luga line forces are in the bag now. Expanding across the Volkhov and moving towards Sviritsa. This turn I have started freeing up Pioneers and Hvy Arty to assign to the Corps assaulting Leningrad. Seeing how weekly it is held, I am not going to wait for Sviritsa to be taken to start the assault.

[Aditia]

Moscow:

Pz Corps over extending to deny the formation of solid lines.

[Aditia]

Bryansk:

Since I feel I am already putting sufficient pressure on Moscow I decided to use Guderian's Panzer Group to link up with AGS with the infantry and move on Bryansk. And yes Pelton, I will be in fuel hell soon, I did not play the logistics game very well for a few turns

[Aditia]

In the south, 2 Rumanian and 3 German divisions had enough MP for a deliberate assault across the Dnepr and I expand the bridgehead.
2 small pockets are formed and the rest of the Panzer Group secures the flank south of the Dnepr

[Aditia]

A more zoomed out view of the situation south of Oka

[Aditia]

Turn 8

Leningrad AO

Prepping the assault for the city. Mobile forces will withdraw probably next turn.

[Aditia]

Moscow:

2 Field Armies are assembling for the push on Moscow, with a Pz Corps in the north, 1 weak on in the center and a Pz Corps in the south. The southern Pz Corps received Model as commander and since then have done exactly nothing

I have 4th Army largely in Reserve and it can be committed towards Moscow if needed. By 'in-reserve' I mean that it mopping up east of Mogilev and I haven't decided a mission for it yet

[Aditia]

Link Up between AGC and AGS.

This will give me some operational freedom.

[Aditia]

And the South. A small pocket formed on the Dnepr and some more divisions with no way to escape destruction further north.

The 2 Pz Corps west of D-Town are waiting for the rest of 11th Army and 17th Army that is now force marching across the Ukraine.

I like forming these half pockets as it forces my opponent to choose:

- Do I leave those units to certain doom?
- Do I commit more forces to keep them in the fight longer?

Sometimes better than confronting your oppenent with a fait a compli as they can then mentally detach themselves from the lost divisions way more easily.

[Aditia]

As this is the last turn I am posting tonight, the following are some pictures of what is happening in the background.

First, production

Manpower is now growing about 8k per turn after I fixed some TOE issues.

[chaos45]

His army appears very weak in the north and center....my guess is to many russians in the south.

[Aditia]

TOE for airbases