General Patton vs. larryfulkerson Focus Pacific #75

[BillBrown]

I go for less than 50 flotation damage( 40 - 45 is my target), but 0 system Damage. If you put them in pierside repair they will fix all of the
non major flotation and engine damage and eventually all of the system damage. I would just take all 4 out of shipyard put them in pierside
until they are fixed. They are not that useful until sometime in late 1943 or early 1944.

[larryfulkerson]

have your cleared away his subs from H before you attempt any movement to the West Coast of your damaged BBs?

Every time I see one I chase it with some kind of ASW or other. DM's and AMc's and whatever else is handy when nothing else is.

[larryfulkerson]

I would just take all 4 out of shipyard put them in pierside until they are fixed. They are not that useful until
sometime in late 1943 or early 1944.

Yeah, I tried that but the most they want to stay pierside repairing is a couple of weeks. Then they really do have
to go into the shipyard for repairs. I'm pushing the limit on the shipyard to get whatever ships I can fit into there
and get them repaired so that all that will be left is for the 4 BB's, which I have a suspicsion that they might just fit.
It's either that or move them to the west coast which is what I would rather do. As you say, they are going to be
useless for a significant fraction of the war. Also, I've been toying with the idea of moving some of the repair ships
out to the outlaying islands to get the repair process started where the problems are. As it is they are having to
"escort" themselves to Pearl to get major repairs done. I'd like to see Pago Pago be able to do something like that
for the minor injuries so they don't have to go all the way to Pearl. I may be dreaming.

[BillBrown]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

I would just take all 4 out of shipyard put them in pierside until they are fixed. They are not that useful until
sometime in late 1943 or early 1944.

Yeah, I tried that but the most they want to stay pierside repairing is a couple of weeks. Then they really do have
to go into the shipyard for repairs. I'm pushing the limit on the shipyard to get whatever ships I can fit into there
and get them repaired so that all that will be left is for the 4 BB's, which I have a suspicsion that they might just fit.
It's either that or move them to the west coast which is what I would rather do. As you say, they are going to be
useless for a significant fraction of the war. Also, I've been toying with the idea of moving some of the repair ships
out to the outlaying islands to get the repair process started where the problems are. As it is they are having to
"escort" themselves to Pearl to get major repairs done. I'd like to see Pago Pago be able to do something like that
for the minor injuries so they don't have to go all the way to Pearl. I may be dreaming.

What does the bolded mean? Just put them in pierside repair and forget them until the system damage is 0 and all of the minor flood and engine damage is repaired. Then escort them to the West Coast.

[larryfulkerson]

What does the bolded mean?

I HAD them in pierside repair but then got a message in the OPS log that no more repairs were possible, meaning I had to stick them
into the shipyard to get any further repair. This is what prompted the thought to maybe moving them to the west coast. There's a
couple of ships that I can leave in pierside repair for up to I think a couple of weeks but then repair will stop and I'll have to do
something with them.

[larryfulkerson]

I've been busy grabbing bases and invading here and there and Hong Kong finally fell but all the facilities are badly damaged
there and it's going to take a lot of repair to get Hong Kong sailing smoothly again. I've got two engineers there to get started
on the repairs but I'm thinking of sending more engineers yet to help out because those repairs are going to take a while to
get them straightened out. I'm sweeping for the Allied mines and have cleared 105 of them already but there's a bunch more
to clear. The port has 97% damage so I'm thinking I can't use it yet but there's a whale of a lot of fuel at Hong Kong that will
come in handy eventually. I'm sending the troops that took down Hong Kong to K-town to take it down too. I need the RES
there in K-town and there's a RES center there worth 360+ so it's worth taking.

I've been trying to grab all the coastal cities to try to starve out the Chinese further inland and get them to move north and into
the mountains. I'm out for the goodies that China offers but not the nation itself. I don't want to have to garrison China for the
entire war.

[BillBrown]

The only thing the Engineers will repair is the port damage. You will need a lot of supply to repair the factories.

[larryfulkerson]

ORIGINAL: BillBrown
The only thing the Engineers will repair is the port damage. You will need a lot of supply to repair the factories.

Well, port damage needs repair too. I'm feeling like I'll need the RES center to be repaired but I'm not so sure about
the rest of the facilities. It's going to take a lot of supply to fix all that stuff. I'll need the larger of the two repair yards,
which brings up the question about why there's two repair yards. And I'm leaning toward repairing the Heavy Industry
and maybe the light industry just for the supplies. I'm assuming Hong Kong is going to come in handy in some future
turn so I guess I ought to get started on the repairs right away.

[larryfulkerson]

I was too late getting around to doing Hong Kong's configuration changes and the repairs had already started on the damaged
facilities. I turned off the repairs on the lessor of the two repair yards to concentrate on the bigger one. I've still got some Allied
mines to clear out of the Hong Kong harbor but so far it hasn't been a problem coming or going. I guess I've cleared most of them.
I've got the Hong Kong victors moving toward K-town so as to take over that place too. I've had a BB group bombard K-town and
that destroyed and damaged a bunch of aircraft on the ground so maybe it's safe to start the sweeps again. The airfield and runways
took some hits too so maybe it'll be shut down soon.

[larryfulkerson]

Finally on 27Dec41 I'm able to start loading the first shipload of fuel from Miri. There's still Allied bombers visiting periodically but they
almost always miss so I'm risking it. The next thing I need to do is ship some AA guns to Miri.......you'd have thought I would have
thought of that beforehand but nooooooooo. I'm learning.

Hong Kong fell and I'm shipping the large collection of fuel there to Cam Ranh Bay and the RES are going to Tokyo. Well, actually
first Pescadores and then Tokyo. I'm trying to use the hub / spoke method of resource collection where the Pescadores is a hub.
I'm thinking of changing that to Hong Kong when the port gets fixed and the Allied mines are cleared out of there. Hong Kong's repair
shipyard is the next thing I need to fix. That will save a bunch of trips to Naha to repair a ship. Also, it's my understanding that the
port at Hong Kong is large enough to have BB ammo laying around ready to load on visiting BB's.

EDIT: I found an AA unit at CRB and I'm having it load to ship late tonight and about two days in transit to arrive at Miri.

[larryfulkerson]

You can get some insight into the operational tempo by looking at a list of the broken ships. This is just SOME of them. There's
page after page of more of them. I'm repairing them as fast as they reach port but any long trip breaks something or other and
minor repair is a given. Major repair seems random so far and infrequent. Most of the major repair needs you see in the image
were done by combat, landing on a hostile beach mostly. I'd estimate I've lost about 30 AK's and xAK's to CD guns and subs. Even
those TF's that I have an established escort are getting hit. Sometimes the escort is hit. I don't have enough PB's to give every TF
an escort so only the important ones and the long-distance ones. And I've got some ASW boats active along the south coast of
Japan because of the traffic through there of all kinds. Lots of ships coming out of Tokyo harbor and that's where I expect Brian
to concentrate his subs. At least those subs he has dedicated to merch shipping traffic. I haven't gotten a good feel yet for how
many subs are comitted to merch shipping and how many are chasing combat ships. I'm guessing that Brian is leaning heavily
toward the merch shipping. I would. They, the AK's, make less dangerous targets for one thing. And another thing is that it
seems to take less TT's to sink a transport. Less gun shells. More ships per patrol that way.

[larryfulkerson]

Okay......it's 31Dec41 and I thought I ought to take a look at the aircraft and engine pools and according to the numbers there's a lot
of engine production that can be safely turned off. I'm aiming at a level of about 100 in the pool at any one time so I'm boosting some
production and turning off others to make that happen. And then I'll take a look at the planes and fix them.

[BillBrown]

Are you forgoing the engine bonus for R&D?

[larryfulkerson]

ORIGINAL: BillBrown
Are you forgoing the engine bonus for R&D?

I'm so new to this game that I'm not sure what you're asking. All the engine R&D factories aren't damaged, there's nothing to
repair so I'm at a loss as to what I'm missing. Engine bonus for R&D?

[larryfulkerson]

I get little bumps in the RES in Tokyo and it's been falling but at a leasurely rate. The changes made to the Jap economy
seem to have stabilized everything remarkably. I don't remember having to turn off the HI in any of my cities so far. This makes the
war fightable. We'll see how much longer the honeymoon lasts.

[larryfulkerson]

Okie dokie.......I've run into a problem that I might ought to share with you guys: The detachment from at least two squadrons is a
different model of aircraft than the base unit for that detachment and so even with the same HQ for the units they can't be combined.
I'm going to have to upgrade them to the same kind of aircraft to combine them I guess. I was thinking of just disbanding the two
separated detachments but that's not "elegant" enough for me. Not realistic enough.

[larryfulkerson]

I started north from Legaspi and captured all the Allied cities moving north including A-town and then moved everybody out of
A-town and moved further north again, leaving no garrison at all. So now, this turn, somehow magically A-town flips to Allied
control for some reason. So I'm detaching an armour unit to move back into A-town and re-convert it, hoping that it's
superior mobility will allow it to catch up with the column headed north again.

[SqzMyLemon]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

ORIGINAL: BillBrown
Are you forgoing the engine bonus for R&D?

I'm so new to this game that I'm not sure what you're asking. All the engine R&D factories aren't damaged, there's nothing to
repair so I'm at a loss as to what I'm missing. Engine bonus for R&D?

Stockpile 500+ engines needed by the particular airframe in question you want to research and you'll double your research rate.

Example: Ki-43-IIa uses the Ha-35 engine. If you stockpile 500 engines you'll get a research bonus when your R&D factories are fully repaired. If you have four factories repaired you'd gain 4% in research daily (assuming you have a 30x0 factory), with the engine bonus you'd gain 8%. Just be aware that you'll consume one engine for each research point, so you'll have to have a stockpile of at least 508 if I recall correctly to maintain the bonus rate.

[larryfulkerson]

Stockpile 500+ engines needed by the particular airframe in question you want to research and you'll double your research rate.

Example: Ki-43-IIa uses the Ha-35 engine. If you stockpile 500 engines you'll get a research bonus when your R&D factories are fully repaired. If you have four factories repaired you'd gain 4% in research daily (assuming you have a 30x0 factory), with the engine bonus you'd gain 8%. Just be aware that you'll consume one engine for each research point, so you'll have to have a stockpile of at least 508 if I recall correctly to maintain the bonus rate.

I had no idea about this. Thank you for the information. One thing though......508 engines for each aircraft model you're building
sounds expensive. I'm thinking maybe it should be applied to only the three or four most important R&D targets. Right?

[SqzMyLemon]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

Stockpile 500+ engines needed by the particular airframe in question you want to research and you'll double your research rate.

Example: Ki-43-IIa uses the Ha-35 engine. If you stockpile 500 engines you'll get a research bonus when your R&D factories are fully repaired. If you have four factories repaired you'd gain 4% in research daily (assuming you have a 30x0 factory), with the engine bonus you'd gain 8%. Just be aware that you'll consume one engine for each research point, so you'll have to have a stockpile of at least 508 if I recall correctly to maintain the bonus rate.

I had no idea about this. Thank you for the information. One thing though......508 engines for each aircraft model you're building
sounds expensive. I'm thinking maybe it should be applied to only the three or four most important R&D targets. Right?

I wasn't clear. The 500+ engines applies to all airframe research that uses that engine. You just need to make sure you maintain the engine level over 500. As you research, some engines will be consumed. As soon as you drop below 500 you lose the bonus each day you don't meet it. Hope that helps.