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Marshall
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RE: So I thought...

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Here is my report,
First of all to understand my situation i will explain:
I have a massive training schedule going on, that depletes my replacement pools for the navy pilots, i am already snatching naval pilots from from their class room.
Not a big thing, as the training program delivers them in fine shape after a period of time, with over 2000 fighter pilots in reserve, i feel confident that it will not become an issue.
Current play date is OCT 1943

I did not put my best pilots into TRACOM because of the reasoning that it only speeds up basic training, and i felt that my training program would not need this.
I opted for them to be in elite squadrons, and that worked very well over Burma and Australia, In Burma the RAF is completely shattered, and the US needed to send in squadrons of new fighters to cover the gap.

I had 86 pilots in TRACOM for most of the war time so far.
I moved all of my top pilots to TRACOM about 6 weeks ago in the war, to make a buffer for 1945, when the new generation of wonder weapons will appear.
The new generation of elite pilots is replacing the TRACOM fighters, they all have high numbers, and many sorties on their name, they will become the new TRACOM feed in 6 months.

So i will have to see the effect of having 650 TRACOM pilots the coming 12 months of play i think.
If i can get the same results in experience, i will be a very very happy japanese commander in chief.

So far, TRACOM did not do much for me, with the 86 in it. But i will grow the TRACOM number now, and i will see if i can get to a 1000 in the coming year.
Based on the report of Jolly_Pillager, i am willing to invest heavy in the TRACOM, and i will keep an eye on the developments, but here is the current situation:
I have 2 Squadrons of TRACOM pilots still on duty, they are not in the pool yet. (around 100 pilots), i moved them out of TRACOM yesterday to form 2 new ACE squadrons on the location i expect the D day landings within a months time. so 560 left in TRACOM.

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RE: So I thought...

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This is a bug which michaelm said he would address after patch 3 was released.  It seems it may have slipped his mind to get back to it.
 
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2382146&mpage=1&key=instructor&#2387563
 
The problem stems from going into negative territory.
 
It really should be taken to the Tech sub-forum.
 
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RE: So I thought...

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The Question is always how many pilots do you need until the end of the war, i personally calculate 2000 casualties a year for 45 and 46 (5 a day on average)
way low i think even for the allies. Look at some recent AAR's that got late into '45.

IJ pilots losses can be easily 500 in a day due to kami.
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RE: So I thought...

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Hey, thanks Marshall for the post and explanation.

Alfred, wow thanks for the link. TBH I've had a problem of no TRACOM advancement since I upgraded to 1108r9 and above. I've been seeking a solution by regressing my patch to 1106 Oct 2010, where I believe it last worked for me. Was going to get a save from it and then a later level to post to Mr. M. Maybe the whole thing is related, don't know. Can a thread be moved or does a new one need to be started?
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The Question is always how many pilots do you need until the end of the war, i personally calculate 2000 casualties a year for 45 and 46 (5 a day on average)
way low i think even for the allies. Look at some recent AAR's that got late into '45.

IJ pilots losses can be easily 500 in a day due to kami.

Hundred a day into Tokyo Bay?
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RE: So I thought...

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Sorry for the confusion, i was referring to fighter pilot losses, not bomber losses.

I do not train my Kamikazes up to veteran, i give them 10 days of naval bombing training and a cup of sake,a hug from the empress, and off they go!
If things get really bad, i grab them from the streets, give them an aviation manual of the plane they will fly, 2 hours of preparation and a of course ... a cup of sake and the best wishes from the emperor
I prefer the Ohka attack over kamikazes, but if the going gets though, the kamikazes come out.

i do not see the use of sending a 70+ exp and 70+ skill naval bomber pilot on a kamikaze mission, i think that is an utter waste of talent.

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RE: So I thought...

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ORIGINAL: rustysi

Hey, thanks Marshall for the post and explanation.

Alfred, wow thanks for the link. TBH I've had a problem of no TRACOM advancement since I upgraded to 1108r9 and above. I've been seeking a solution by regressing my patch to 1106 Oct 2010, where I believe it last worked for me. Was going to get a save from it and then a later level to post to Mr. M. Maybe the whole thing is related, don't know. Can a thread be moved or does a new one need to be started?

As a forum moderator, wdolson is able to move an entire thread to a new sub-forum.

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RE: So I thought...

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ORIGINAL: rustysi

Hey, thanks Marshall for the post and explanation.

Alfred, wow thanks for the link. TBH I've had a problem of no TRACOM advancement since I upgraded to 1108r9 and above. I've been seeking a solution by regressing my patch to 1106 Oct 2010, where I believe it last worked for me. Was going to get a save from it and then a later level to post to Mr. M. Maybe the whole thing is related, don't know. Can a thread be moved or does a new one need to be started?

Where would you suggest moving it?

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RE: So I thought...

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I copy my answer to similar thread on main AE forum..just my 2 euro cents:

My main use of TRACOM is to store elite pilots to use later to form elite squadrons and improve good squadrons to be great squadrons. In TRACOM, your aces are safe (as Allies, you can think them as sent to war bond tour for a while). [8D]

For Japan, TRACOM is bit more useful in pilot training, but Allies should never have much problem with trained OK pilots. Things with AUS/NZ/Brit/CW/Chinese pilots might be bit different, though. But USN/USAAF usually never lack trained pilots and Allied player has enough restricted squadrons on West Coast to use for pilot training.
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ORIGINAL: rustysi

Hey, thanks Marshall for the post and explanation.

Alfred, wow thanks for the link. TBH I've had a problem of no TRACOM advancement since I upgraded to 1108r9 and above. I've been seeking a solution by regressing my patch to 1106 Oct 2010, where I believe it last worked for me. Was going to get a save from it and then a later level to post to Mr. M. Maybe the whole thing is related, don't know. Can a thread be moved or does a new one need to be started?

Where would you suggest moving it?

Bill

I thought it should go to the tech forum for Michealm to look at if he hasn't already. The experience gain shown by jolly_pillager just doesn't appear to be WAD. In my experience with TRACOM I'm having different problems (its not working). Unfortunately at the current time I don't have any saved games to post and show what I'm dealing with, although the two may be related.
It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once. Hume

In every party there is one member who by his all-too-devout pronouncement of the party principles provokes the others to apostasy. Nietzsche

Cave ab homine unius libri. Ltn Prvb
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RE: So I thought...

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OK I moved it to tech support.

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RE: So I thought...

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Thanks Bill. I just think there's something grossly wrong here.
It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once. Hume

In every party there is one member who by his all-too-devout pronouncement of the party principles provokes the others to apostasy. Nietzsche

Cave ab homine unius libri. Ltn Prvb
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RE: So I thought...

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Bump, because this bug seems pretty serious
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