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[jun5896]

http://www.janes.com/article/56855/poss ... rst-flight
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_J-16

Electronic warfare variant. It has wingtip pods resembling the AN/ALQ-218, up to ten fuselage and wing hardpoints, and no IRST or 30 mm cannon. It reportedly made its first flight in December 2015.

Also, J-16 is used by PLAAF (It has not been added yet) and PLANAF (It is includes in DB3000)

Please, add J-16D EW varients and PLAAF J-16. Thanks

[Triode]

About Russian UAVs

Currently UAV company in Armed Forces have :
in close range UAV platoon it is BKMD - there is UAVs with ~10 km range,like
Granat-1, multicopters like Granat VA series ,Zala small UAVs
anyways if we dont have RQ-11 in database we generally can ignore all this things, I mean 10km range, really [:)]

BKBD25 platoon there is UAVs with range ~25-50km
like Zastava copy of IAI Bird Eye ,Eleron-3SV etc

but also in this company we have long range UAV platoon , and I thiink this UAVs can be added to database
BKBD100 platoon with UAVs:
Orlan-3M (2011)


Takeoff weight, kg .:7.00
Range, km .:100.00
Speed, km / h .:150.00
Practical ceiling, m .:7 000.00
Payload weight, kg .:1.8
Engine:DIC (methanol)
Max. Flight duration, h .:3
Max. allowable wind speed at the start, m / sec .:10
Operating temperature at the surface C .:-30 to +40
Manufacturer:Special Technology Center
can take TV or IR camera , not very succesful thing not in great numbers

Orlan-10 (-10M ,Orlan-10 with Leer-3 payload) (2013)

Takeoff weight, kg .:18.00
Range, km .:600.00
Speed, km / h .:150.00
Practical ceiling, m .:5 000.00
Payload weight, kg .:5
Max. allowable wind speed at the start, m / sec .:10
Operating temperature at the surface of the earth, C:-30 to +50
Max. Flight duration, h .:18
Manufacturer:Special Technology Center
most numerous russian UAV with range>100km ,
600km with radio signal repeaters(any other Orlan-10 or ground stations)or in full auto mode(flight in recon mode by waypoins,60 waypoints for Orlan-10), range of basic station 150km
http://bp-la.ru/bpla-orlan-10/ in russian
http://bla-orlan.blog.ru/ in russian
Orlan-10 - use Flir Photon 320, Flir Photon 640, BHV-558 EX, and Controp D-STAMP, U-STAMP ,Сanon EOS 5D,Сanon EOS 50D,Сanon EOS 500D
Orlan-10M - also have 12 long focus "guns" for high-resolution images , 7 liters fuel tank instead of standart 5 liters for Orlan-10 and 20 h flight duration
12 Orlan-10M "guns":
http://defence-blog.com/wp-content/uplo ... AEFTfI.jpg
for comparison
Orlan-10

orlan-10M


Orlan-10 with "Leer-3" payload
Leer-3 is jamming/elint system ,there is Orlan-10 with jamming station(6km range of jamming enemy station) and Orlan-10 with ELINT station , main purpose - find and jamm enemy radio also radio reconnaissance
Orlan-10 with Leer-3 payload on "Radioelectronic troops directorate of Russian Federation Armed Forces" stand


"Last year(2014), STC produced in the framework of the defense order of about 200 drones. This year(2015), shipments will increase to nearly 300 "
He noted that the major part - 90% - falls on the systems with devices "Orlan-10"."
http://www.aex.ru/news/2015/7/27/138313/ in russian
So, most numerous UAV with range >100km in Russian Armed Forces [:)]

Also UZGA (manufacturer of Forpost UAV (israel Searcher II)) release imrovment path for Forpost :


translation - today Forpost-M
Integration of military GLONASS


translation - tomorrow Forpost-R
radio signal repeaters for other Forposts and Orlans
ELINT station 250 km range , 1-18 GHz


and aftertomorrow "perspective Forpost"
SLAR ,laser system etc


also 06/08/2016 there is first flight of Altius-M
http://oko-planet.su/science/sciencenew ... ltair.html in russian
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/bmpd/380 ... iginal.jpg

wing 28,5 m
length 11,6 m
engines 2x RED A03/V12
range 10000 km
speed 250 km/h
practical ceiling 12000 m
takeoff weight 5000kg
flight duration 48 h
this UAV have AESA SLAR and "optical-electonic gyrostabilized station"
this UAV is secret project ,so we can only guess about current payload , but if we look at old presentations for Altius


so, one hour flight this SLAR scan 300x250 km area, this mean SLAR have range 300 km or,if there is two of them on both sides 2x150
also interesting that in this mode this radar have 1m resolution
in mapping mode using Visual and IR chanells it is 0,3 m resolution for 300x250 strip
http://www.okbsimonova.ru/press/news/pr ... one_rf-67/ whole presentation in russian
time for readyness of this rhing is 2019


so, can you please add to database Orlan-3M,Orlan-10,Orlan-10M, and maybee add Orlan-10 with Leer-3 (both payload , two UAVs),Forpost-R and Altius-M
also it would be nice have something like generic UAV launchpad or something like that (yeah
I know I can use renamed helipads for this [:)] )

[Hongjian]

ORIGINAL: jun5896

http://www.janes.com/article/56855/poss ... rst-flight
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_J-16

Electronic warfare variant. It has wingtip pods resembling the AN/ALQ-218, up to ten fuselage and wing hardpoints, and no IRST or 30 mm cannon. It reportedly made its first flight in December 2015.

Also, J-16 is used by PLAAF (It has not been added yet) and PLANAF (It is includes in DB3000)

Please, add J-16D EW varients and PLAAF J-16. Thanks

And please add 2 more BVRRAAM/AG-Ordnance hardpoints on the wings of the J-15, J-16 and J-11D. Structurally, they have the Su-30's wings and feature 4 hardpoints per wing (2x for SRAAM, 2x BVRRAAM) instead of three hardpoints of the standard Su-27 that only has 3 hardpoints per wing (2x SRAAM, 1x BVRAAM).

Pic: Su-30MKI and Su-30; showing that they have four hardpoints per wing in addition to their four fuselage hardpoints - 12 hardpoints in total:




Pic: Su-27 showing it has only 3 hardpoints per wing, in addition to its 4 on the fuselage - ten hardpoints in total:




EDIT:

Checked in db just now; it seems that the original Russian Su-30s also only sport 10 hardpoints in total. So, this small inaccuracy seems to be not limited to Chinese Flankers.

Anyway; the Chinese Flankers roughtly are divided in two families:

10 Hardpoints (using original Su-27 wing layout):
Su-27SK/UBK
J-11
J-11A/S
J-11B/S

12 Hardpoints (using the Su-30 wing layout):
Su-30MKK/MK2
J-11D
J-15/S
J-16
J-16D

Thanks!

[jun5896]

http://izvestia.ru/news/621584

http://www.janes.com/article/62823/ka-5 ... ar-upgrade


Navalized versions of the Ka-52K are to be installed with a compact active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar external link. The radar operates in dual-band millimetric and centimetric wavelengths which allows the Ka-52K to detect large naval targets up to a range of 180 km. Initially developed for French-built Mistral-class vessels, the sale was cancelled by France after Russia's annexation of Crimea. The helicopters already built are likely to be added to the air wing of the Project 11435 Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier

[Showtime 100_MatrixForum]

Some AESA radars offer electronic attack capability (thanks to the flexible nature of T/R modules and especially thanks to their programmability), but don't seem to have that capability directly modeled in Command (that I can see, though some aircraft like the PAK-FA have DECM suites that use their AESA radars as transmitters modeled). I totally understand not having enough details to properly implement it, but here's some info in case you're interested!

Various sources on aircraft with these radars having capabilities that could be modeled as OECM in Command:

F-22 AN/APG-77 v1 electronic attack (post-2012 Raptors)
AN/APG-79 on E/F Super Hornets post-2010
F-35 AN/APG-31 electronic attack capability (all versions)

Also, the AN/ASQ-239 is missing some capabilities. From the BAE Systems brochure on it (i.e. take these claims and assume it's about half as good as that):

Features
- Offensive and defensive digital electronic warfare capabilities
- Multispectral, radio frequency (RF) and infrared (IR) countermeasures (not DIRCM, just flares)
- Simultaneous jamming without interfering with radar and radar warning receiver

[various marketing elided]

Equipped with offensive and defensive electronic warfare options for the pilot and aircraft, the suite provides fully integrated radar warning, targeting support, and self-protection, to detect and defeat surface and airborne threats.

Always active, AN/ASQ-239 provides all-aspect, broadband protection, allowing the F-35 to reach well-defended targets and suppress enemy radars. The system stands alone in its ability to operate in signal-dense environments, providing the aircraft with radio-frequency and infrared countermeasures, and rapid response capabilities.

It's difficult to figure out if the offensive/defensive jamming is all aspect or it's cleverly worded to make it sound like that and the reality is that the detection is all aspect and the AN/APG-81 is used as the transmitter for EW purposes (meaning that OECM and DECM capabilities would be front-aspect only). It's clear that the F-35 definitely has integrated offensive and defensive electronic warfare capabilities of some kind, though.

[jun5896]

http://www.armyrecognition.com/russia_r ... 12153.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-500_(missile_system)
http://www.military-today.com/missiles/s500.htm
http://www.defensetech.org/2016/07/19/r ... -missiles/

While Russian media in April reported that S-500 prototypes were “expected to enter service in late 2016 or 2017” as a replacement to the S-300, U.S. observers say they haven’t yet been deployed and question whether the government can stick to that timeline.

“I have seen nothing to indicate that the S-500 air/missile defense system has been deployed,” said Paul Schwartz, a senior associate in the Russia and Eurasia program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a think tank in Washington, D.C. “There are reports that it will be deployed later this year, but I remain skeptical.”

In an email to Military.com, Schwartz pointed out that even the U.S. had to rigorously test and modify its anti-ballistic missile systems over a long period before fielding effective technology.

“We have seen little to indicate that the Russians have carried out such testing,” he said. “It is possible that they will roll out a modified version of the S-400 as an interim system, and they may call it the S-500.”

More importantly, Schwartz said, “The thing to look for will be whether Moscow can deploy the 77N6 missiles, as these are the key to developing a real ballistic missile defense system.”

I invite you to consider add this point while next update. Thank you for your efforts on improving update database until now.

[jun5896]

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=3241
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XASM-3

The XASM-3 is an anti-ship missile being developed by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries to replace the ASM-1 and ASM-2 missiles. The major launch platform is the Mitsubishi F-2. Planned Initial Operational Capability is 2016. The missile will be used by the Japan Air Self-Defense Force.

In November 2015, the Japanese Ministry of Defense announced it would conduct a live-fire experiment of the XASM-3 in 2016, targeting the decommissioned ship JDS Shirane.

It will be deployed in 2016, not 2019.

[jun5896]

http://www.deagel.com/Strike-and-Fighte ... 57003.aspx
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_MiG-29K

MiG-29KUB
Tandem two-seat operational trainer variant.

But MiG-29KUB shows only one-seat in database. KUB is two-seat

[wqc12345]

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[Mgellis]

Presently working on a scenario involving Taiwan, China, and Kiribati. The following are not essential, but would be helpful, and would be appreciated. Thanks for considering them.

For Taiwan...

AOE 532 Panshi
Operational dates: 2015-

"Panshi is 196 meters long with a beam of 25.2 meters and a draft of 8.6 meters. It has a full displacement of 20,859 tons and light displacement of 10,371 tons. It has a range of 8,000 nautical miles, maximum speed of 22 knots and the capacity to carry a complement of 165 sailors."

"The large helicopter hangar provides permanent basing of up to three medium helicopters. The ship has been design to be able to simultaneously replenish two vessels at the same time."

"According to the original models, the class is set to receive a quite unusual heavy weapons fit for this type of vessel:
[Does NOT have a 76mm. gun..."The final weapons fit on Panshih differs slightly from what was expected based on the original scale model: The 76mm main gun was never installed. The ROC Navy opted for a RIM-72C Sea Chaparral (with 4x AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles) SAM system."]
2x 20mm Phalanx CIWS
2x 35mm Rheinmetall Millenium guns
2x 30mm cannons turrets
and several .50 cal machine guns"

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... nshiq.html

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... shihq.html

http://www.dmitryshulgin.com/tag/panshih-aoe-532/

http://cimsec.org/new-ship-boosts-taiwa ... ties/17609

F-16V
Operational dates: 2017- ???

"The F-16V is equipped with an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar in the nose cone, which improves upon the mechanically scanned radar systems currently in use. Northrop Grumman’s scalable agile beam radar (SABR) passed critical design review on 19 August. The milestone was announced by Lockheed, which Taiwan chose as lead systems integrated for upgrades to its fleet of 144 F-16A/B Block 20s."

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ne-402877/

"The F-16V flew with Northrop Grumman’s advanced APG-83 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) and Northrop’s Scalable Agile Beam Radar (SABR) for the first time last week."

http://www.news.com.au/technology/innov ... 510950f808

"Another big improvement is the SNIPER targeting pod. Designed to provide precise day and night air-to-ground targeting capability, SNIPER is also useful in air-to-air combat, detecting enemy aircraft by their infrared signatures. That gives the F-16V a fighting chance at short range against planes like China's J-20 "Soaring Dragon" fighter."

http://www.popularmechanics.com/militar ... st-flight/

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ ... kes-flight

[willpope697]

I'd love it if you would consider adding these units for uk to the DB Ive not been able to post links due toregulations on the forum therefor I've just stated my source that can easily be found with a quick Google search

P8A Poseidon for the RAF due 2019
Source, IHS Jane's UK orders P8 Poseidon article

Protector RPAS (predator B) for the RAF due 2018
Source, Flight global UK selects predator B as reaper replacement article

AH-64Es for the army air corps to replace their ageing WAH-64Ds, there has also been talk of implementing the brimstone 2 on the E variant
Source, IHS Jane's article UK request ah-64Es article

CV-22 osprey for the army air corps the details are very vague but it seems like UKSF pilots are now flying or will be flying the V-22
Source, dailymail v-22 osprey "transformer" article

I hope you consider these the last request is a bit vague granted and I imagine your to do list is extremely long, again sorry about the links

Thanks

[Gunner98]

Minor error in DB:

#1957 Single-Unit Airfield (Heliport)

-Description states it is invisible - which is good, all the others are detectable so this gives us some flexibility - but it has the auto-detectable flag on.

-Recommend that you have two items in the DB on which is and one which is not invisible.

Thank you

B

[SASR]

The unnamed America-class amphib LHA-8 will receive the rotating version (not the CVN-79 version) of the EASR radar and will have a well deck (unlike LHA-6 and LHA-7) with a slightly smaller hangar than LHA-6/7.

LHA-8 will enter service with the USN in 2024.

From: http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... tract.html

Raytheon Company has been awarded a $92,069,954 cost-plus-incentive-fee contract for the engineering and manufacturing development of the Enterprise Air Surveillance Radar. EASR will consist of two configuration variants: Variant 1, a rotating phased array (for amphibious vessels); and Variant 2, a three-face fixed-phased array (for the Ford-class of aircraft carriers).

The US Navy expects the new radar system to become operational on the USS Kennedy (second Ford-class carrier) and the LHA 8 (Third America-class amphibious assault ship) beginning in 2023 and 2020 respectively.

From: http://breakingdefense.com/2012/10/navy ... ous-ships/

So this February, after months of study, the Marine Corps Commandant and the Chief of Naval Operations signed an official memorandum of agreement that restores the well deck to LHA-8 and subsequent ships. A modification of the LHA-6 America design, LHA-8 will have a slightly smaller hanger than the America and a slightly smaller well deck than past amphibs like the Kearsage. (A redesign of the “island” structure will free up more room on LHA-8’s flight deck to do maintenance on V-22s, compensating for some of the hanger space lost inside the ship).

From: http://www.dodbuzz.com/2014/01/18/navy- ... o-amphibs/

The Navy has begun early design work, affordability studies and planning with industry partners for its third big-deck America-Class Amphibious Assault Ship, or LHA 8, slated to enter service in 2024, service officials said Jan. 15 at the Surface Navy Association Annual Symposium, Crystal City, Va.

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: SASR

The unnamed America-class amphib LHA-8 will receive the rotating version (not the CVN-79 version) of the EASR radar and will have a well deck (unlike LHA-6 and LHA-7) with a slightly smaller hangar than LHA-6/7.

LHA-8 will enter service with the USN in 2024.

From: http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... tract.html

Raytheon Company has been awarded a $92,069,954 cost-plus-incentive-fee contract for the engineering and manufacturing development of the Enterprise Air Surveillance Radar. EASR will consist of two configuration variants: Variant 1, a rotating phased array (for amphibious vessels); and Variant 2, a three-face fixed-phased array (for the Ford-class of aircraft carriers).

The US Navy expects the new radar system to become operational on the USS Kennedy (second Ford-class carrier) and the LHA 8 (Third America-class amphibious assault ship) beginning in 2023 and 2020 respectively.

From: http://breakingdefense.com/2012/10/navy ... ous-ships/

So this February, after months of study, the Marine Corps Commandant and the Chief of Naval Operations signed an official memorandum of agreement that restores the well deck to LHA-8 and subsequent ships. A modification of the LHA-6 America design, LHA-8 will have a slightly smaller hanger than the America and a slightly smaller well deck than past amphibs like the Kearsage. (A redesign of the “island” structure will free up more room on LHA-8’s flight deck to do maintenance on V-22s, compensating for some of the hanger space lost inside the ship).

From: http://www.dodbuzz.com/2014/01/18/navy- ... o-amphibs/

The Navy has begun early design work, affordability studies and planning with industry partners for its third big-deck America-Class Amphibious Assault Ship, or LHA 8, slated to enter service in 2024, service officials said Jan. 15 at the Surface Navy Association Annual Symposium, Crystal City, Va.

Will it even be called a LHA? Its back to being a LHD.

Mike

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: willpope697

I'd love it if you would consider adding these units for uk to the DB Ive not been able to post links due toregulations on the forum therefor I've just stated my source that can easily be found with a quick Google search

P8A Poseidon for the RAF due 2019
Source, IHS Jane's UK orders P8 Poseidon article

Protector RPAS (predator B) for the RAF due 2018
Source, Flight global UK selects predator B as reaper replacement article

AH-64Es for the army air corps to replace their ageing WAH-64Ds, there has also been talk of implementing the brimstone 2 on the E variant
Source, IHS Jane's article UK request ah-64Es article

CV-22 osprey for the army air corps the details are very vague but it seems like UKSF pilots are now flying or will be flying the V-22
Source, dailymail v-22 osprey "transformer" article

I hope you consider these the last request is a bit vague granted and I imagine your to do list is extremely long, again sorry about the links

Thanks

You actually have to provide links. Not just write where you read it [:)]

Funny though..hehe

Thanks

Mike

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: wqc12345

DELETE - WAS WRONG

LOL. Yeah


Mike

[mikmykWS]

Updated our work list to this point. Thanks for the info!

Mike

[SASR]

More info on EASR. It seems to be almost identical to the SPY-6 and may adopt the SPY-6 name (as (V)2 and (V)3?) if I am reading this correctly.

From: http://www.seapowermagazine.org/stories ... -easr.html

The S-band EASR is partially based on the SPY-6 Air and Missile Defense Radar (AMDR), the contract of which also has been awarded to Raytheon, said Paul, Ferraro, the company’s vice president for Seapower Capabilities Systems, in the teleconference. The SPY-6 will be installed on Flight III of the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers.

Raytheon regards the EASR as a variant of the SPY-6 AMDR, said Tad Dickenson, the company’s program manager for AMDR.

“The SPY-6 of Flight III is Variant 1,” Dickenson said during the teleconference. “EASR will be a V2 Variant or similar type number (of SPY-6), using identical hardware, signal processing, software, [and] data processing software. It is near identical as possible. The goal of the program is to drive affordability and commonality.”

“The EASR inherently, because of the commonality with what has been developed on the AMDR, will share the [AMDR’s] digital beamforming, multimission resource planner capabilities that enable it to perform multiple missions simultaneously, and overall optimizes the operational effectiveness for situational awareness of these carriers,” Washburn said.

[Aethyrion]

Hi,

Some update propositions mostly for french equipment. Note that I'm not a military specialist even if I have some defense engineering education. Some of my propositions might be wrong, so I'm really open to some constructive discussion. Hope it may help improving this great game even more!

Sorry I can't post source links (not enough posts for now) but I can provide them if someone tells me how to.

L'Adroit
- Replace EOMS by EOMS-NG (same as Floreal 2015 or Baynunah).
- End date (for French Navy): 2016.

Floreal 2015
- Should be available from 2012 (first introduction of EOMS-NG).

[Aethyrion]

Cassard class frigate (and other ships using SMART-S Mk2)
- SMART-S Mk2: Developped a couple of years before 2007 (release date) so should be early or late 2000 tech (don't know the rule you follow).

La Fayette
- Create a 2018 version, not clear yet what the modernization program will consist in, but the only sure thing is that a sonar will be added.
While waiting for more information, we could just add the VDS from Al Riyadh variant.

Neuron
- Why a 2019 availability date? I propose 2015 instead (first flight 2012, but first AASM SBU fired in 2015). I know Neuron is not an "operational" military UAV, but it won't be in 2019 either and it will never be.

Taranis
- Consider adding it (since neuron is present).

SBU-54/64
- The 2 variants names seem inverted according to manufacturer site (54 would be SALH, 64 would be IR). Some sites say so, some others say otherwise (including Wikipedia english page). Don't know who to trust.