Lambs to the slaughter (Lowpe (J) vs Jocke; BillBrown (A)) Finished

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

I have to say this jives with my current thinking too.

Ob English nit to increase hit count: it's "jibe" rather than "jive." [8D]

[HansBolter]

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

I have to say this jives with my current thinking too.

Ob English nit to increase hit count: it's "jibe" rather than "jive." [8D]

and THIS is jive:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBw25CrUS-o

[Lowpe]

It was autocorrect. Sheesh.

That is my story and I am sticking to it.[:D]

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

It was autocorrect. Sheesh.

That is my story and I am sticking to it.[:D]

Some sources report that "jive" is becoming the norm in the US, which is a shame. This is like another pet peeve, wherein people say "I'm chomping at the bit." It's "champing." The use of chomping is about 20:1 now according to one source, and champing is a dead verb outside the idiom, but it's still champing. Grump!

[jmalter]

Folks who "tow the line" don't come up to scratch.

Also, too:
Reading of ships that unmoor described as "getting under weigh" - I can't cope, I just run for the liquor cabinet.

Damn this language & its homonyms/spelling errors.

[BillBrown]

nm

[Anachro]

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
Some sources report that "jive" is becoming the norm in the US, which is a shame. This is like another pet peeve, wherein people say "I'm chomping at the bit." It's "champing." The use of chomping is about 20:1 now according to one source, and champing is a dead verb outside the idiom, but it's still champing. Grump!

Just think of how much of the "correct" language you adore came about through the process you describe happening in the U.S. I'm sure a good chunk of it.

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: Anachro

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
Some sources report that "jive" is becoming the norm in the US, which is a shame. This is like another pet peeve, wherein people say "I'm chomping at the bit." It's "champing." The use of chomping is about 20:1 now according to one source, and champing is a dead verb outside the idiom, but it's still champing. Grump!

Just think of how much of the "correct" language you adore came about through the process you describe happening in the U.S. I'm sure a good chunk of it.

Yes and no. Words change all the time, and new loanwords are vacuumed into the language, but idioms normally stay put. It's part of their charm.

Idioms have begun to morph, as discussed here, for lots of reasons. Part is the Net, whereby incorrect uses can spread to ill-informed readers who figure everything there is true. Part is laziness. Part is an increasing lack of reading in the general public where they see idioms spelled out. Part is the lack of respect for the past by younger folks.

IRRegardless, I don't like it. [;)]

[Lokasenna]

But...

Jive and jibe are different words with different uses.

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

But...

Jive and jibe are different words with different uses.

They are. So here I'd go with causes #1 and 3.

[Lowpe]

Feb 1, 1943

PM invaded...

Another big attack at LA...after two days of aerial bombing.

Ground combat at Los Angeles (225,76)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 109021 troops, 2056 guns, 4755 vehicles, Assault Value = 3698

Defending force 76272 troops, 1092 guns, 1260 vehicles, Assault Value = 1873

Allied adjusted assault: 2127

Japanese adjusted defense: 5061

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1929 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 190 disabled
Non Combat: 50 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 15 disabled
Guns lost 95 (4 destroyed, 91 disabled)
Vehicles lost 112 (63 destroyed, 49 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
5035 casualties reported
Squads: 31 destroyed, 475 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 67 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 91 disabled
Guns lost 151 (8 destroyed, 143 disabled)
Vehicles lost 123 (14 destroyed, 109 disabled)

Assaulting units:
7th Motorized Division
36th Infantry Division
5th Armoured Division
104th Infantry Division
13th Armoured Division
Provisional Tank Brigade
41st Infantry Division
8th Motorized Division
3rd Marine Division
LA Harbor Defense
640th Tank Destroyer Battalion
6th Armoured Division
2nd Armored Division
2nd Army Tank Brigade
37th US Naval Construction Battalion
204th Coast AA Regiment
511th Coast AA Regiment
29th USN Special Construction Battalion
21st US Naval Construction Battalion
165th Field Artillery Battalion
183rd Field Artillery Battalion
54th Coastal Artillery Regiment
352nd Construction Regiment
I US Corps
503rd Coast AA Regiment
24th MAG
188th Field Artillery Battalion
19th Base Maint Engineer Battalion
603rd Coast AA Regiment
Los Angeles USN Base Force
3rd USN Naval Construction Regiment
144th Field Artillery Regiment
181st Field Artillery Battalion
168th Field Artillery Battalion
21st Base Maint Engineer Battalion
214th Coast AA Regiment
II USA Corps

Defending units:
23rd Tank Regiment
4th Division
16th Division
1st Tank Division
4th Tank Regiment
2nd Tank Division
9th Division
1st Division
6th Guards Division
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
5th RF Gun Battalion
2nd RF Gun Battalion
9th RF Gun Battalion
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
15th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
11th RF Gun Battalion
3rd Air Defense AA Regiment
15th Air Defense AA Regiment
10th RF Gun Battalion
7th Air Defense AA Regiment
8th RF Gun Battalion
1st Air Defense AA Battalion
2nd Air Defense AA Regiment
22nd Fld AA Gun Co
12th Ind.AA Gun Co
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Hvy.Artillery Rgt /1

[Lowpe]

Chungking...

Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4356 troops, 349 guns, 185 vehicles, Assault Value = 2193

Defending force 167314 troops, 632 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2604

Allied ground losses:
942 casualties reported
Squads: 46 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (4 destroyed, 2 disabled)

[Lowpe]

Turn is away, and I suspect there will be some fireworks this day!

[DanSez]

Page saving bump and an echo from this reader:

Fireworks?

[Lowpe]

I sent the Mutsu and several cruisers and destroyers to intercept the PM landings, but Jocke fled with all his ships...

Leaving Mutsu vulnerable to some air attacks.[:(]

Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 98,130

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 4
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 20
F4F-3 Wildcat x 14
TBF-1 Avenger x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed by flak
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp.

CAP engaged:
801 Ku S-1 with A6M2-N Rufe (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead
77th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (12 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 98,130

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 2
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 7

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 11
TBF-1 Avenger x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
TBF-1 Avenger: 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu
DD Hatsuzuki

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp.

CAP engaged:
801 Ku S-1 with A6M2-N Rufe (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead
77th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead

[Anachro]

Luckily, no hits though.

[Lowpe]

Page 2 shame.

Anyhow I have let a few days slip by with no updates, and with the conclusion of my other game I can focus on this one.

14 Divisions basically stuck in LA. It seems the Allies have decided to march down out of the mountains and attack in the plains and not in LA anymore, so we are attempting our massive escape. It will need amazing luck as not taking San Diego has thrown a huge monkey wrench into my plans to flee LA. But we will hang tough.

The Allies look to be ready to invade either Sumatra or anywhere from Rangoon to the south.

Allies marching out from Port Moresby.

So, I am in a pickle. A big pickle. A really big pickle.

But I am not disheartened, or chagrined. I will fight the Allies with everything I have.

But I have made a mess of Olorin's great opening. Truth hurts.[:)][;)]

[Grfin Zeppelin]

[Capt. Harlock]

14 Divisions basically stuck in LA. It seems the Allies have decided to march down out of the mountains and attack in the plains and not in LA anymore, so we are attempting our massive escape. It will need amazing luck as not taking San Diego has thrown a huge monkey wrench into my plans to flee LA. But we will hang tough.

And if nothing else, you've generated one of the most interesting games yet posted.

[Lowpe]

Feb 9th, 1943

Looks awfully grim....here.

14 Divisions plus support troops, Allies marching around LA to fight in the clear. San Diego heavily fortified with 3 Allied divisions.

Can you say deathtrap?