Are you going to use one, or more, of your armor units to pursue? They should be able to mop up any survivors, even in jungle rough terrain.Attack at PM failed to take the base. It will fall next attack though.
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Avengers - Take groups off CV/CVLs and replace with Marine fighter groups for now. Train to 70 in NavT and then Ground. Assign them missions attacking safe ground targets/bases to bring up their overall experience levels. IMO, they are not gaining enough experience from limited CV usage to get many TT hits.
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Dont armour units suffer a movement rate disadvantage compared to infantry in jungle hexes though?
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Avengers - Take groups off CV/CVLs and replace with Marine fighter groups for now. Train to 70 in NavT and then Ground. Assign them missions attacking safe ground targets/bases to bring up their overall experience levels. IMO, they are not gaining enough experience from limited CV usage to get many TT hits.
No can do ATM. I´m chronically short on Wildkittens. I have some training groups in SWPAC but those only have 2-4 planes and I don´t have any in the pools to fill them out with. This situation won´t improve until Hellcats in 2 months.

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Dont armour units suffer a movement rate disadvantage compared to infantry in jungle hexes though?
If I remember correctly you are right! In J/JR hexes infantry move faster than armor.

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Not a bad day. Some happy Buff pilots in Butte today.

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Not a bad day. Some happy Buff pilots in Butte today.

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces
I hope this does continue ... My own opinion the IJ make a huge mistake with the invasion of Pearl Harbor and sealed
the deal by expending resources against the West Coast. These are resources that are needed to build bases in the DEI and on critical Atolls ..
Also the commitment to the WC has allowed you to put pressure in the East and directly on Burma .. which is going to be hard to recover from once the full ramifications of spending so much to gain so little is realized ..
I think taking PH is OK, as long as its part of a plan taking the Aleutians,Christmas I and somewhere in the Tahiti region. It makes it a long way back for the AFB. Going to Coal Harbour is doubtful, but a firm base if a quick attack on the West Coast is planned, maybe into Prince Rupert and Para based threats on Canada, the 12 mth delay wasted it.
However it appears that most eggs are in the LA/SD basket, and Dunkerque was a 30 mile trip, not 2000 miles back to PH.
Joc, do you still have the SST, Nautilus etc?? Are you allowed "commando raids" on the Hawaiian islands as a recce of just to annoy him?
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I think taking PH is OK, as long as its part of a plan taking the Aleutians,Christmas I and somewhere in the Tahiti region. It makes it a long way back for the AFB. Going to Coal Harbour is doubtful, but a firm base if a quick attack on the West Coast is planned, maybe into Prince Rupert and Para based threats on Canada, the 12 mth delay wasted it.
However it appears that most eggs are in the LA/SD basket, and Dunkerque was a 30 mile trip, not 2000 miles back to PH.
Joc, do you still have the SST, Nautilus etc?? Are you allowed "commando raids" on the Hawaiian islands as a recce of just to annoy him?
I´m a bit torn about a PH OP. In all honestly I think there are way better options out there to pick. Mainly the VP cost in planes and ships gives the allied player a nice boost against AV. I gave the exact numbers somewhere in the AAR but basically I got around 1k VPs from ships sunk in the landing and planes lost while suppressing the airfield. That is 4k VPs the Japanese will have make up somewhere else. I think in total the Japanese got 1200 VPs from the PH OP. So when numbers are summed up with AV in mind the PH OP was 2800 VPs in the negative for Japan.
Not very effective IMO. And from an allied perspective losing PH means nothing. It will take a little bit longer to set things up but once up and running the LOC is very solid. And more safe from raiding as Balboa - NZ will take you down into the deepest south.
I still have the SSTs. Won´t use them on the Hawaiian islands though. Jeff can keep those for now as I don´t need them. I´ll take them back later. Probably in 44 if ever. [:)]

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A very good turn. Getting spoiled lately...
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Jeff neglects convoy escort and pay the price for it as an Allied DD TF sneaks into the LOC.
Mizuho took two TT hits as well. Sadly they were US TTs...two duds. Seriously doubt she will make it though. All the hits were 4 or 5 inch ones. She was burning pretty good.
Ward will be fine with 24 SYS. Time to head home and rearm.

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A very good turn. Getting spoiled lately...
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Jeff neglects convoy escort and pay the price for it as an Allied DD TF sneaks into the LOC.
Day Time Surface Combat, near Santa Catalina Is at 217,94, Range 17,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CS Mizuho, Shell hits 30, heavy fires, heavy damage
AK Tenyo Maru, Shell hits 11, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Kensin Maru, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Nichiryo Maru, Shell hits 4, on fire
PB Shirogane Maru, Shell hits 5, on fire
PB Teimei Maru, Shell hits 2
CM Tsubame, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
CM Shirakami, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
CM Naryu, Shell hits 2
CM Aotaka, Shell hits 3, on fire
CM Wakataka, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
SC Ch 34
Allied Ships
DD Strong
DD Phelps
DD Monaghan
DD Worden
DD Dewey
DD Hull, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Ward, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
DD Chew
Mizuho took two TT hits as well. Sadly they were US TTs...two duds. Seriously doubt she will make it though. All the hits were 4 or 5 inch ones. She was burning pretty good.
Ward will be fine with 24 SYS. Time to head home and rearm.

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One of two duds of course. Doubt this was fatal as no fuel cargo burning message was shown. She was probably empty.

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As predicted the Allies liberate Port Morseby! Huzzah!

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As predicted the Allies liberate Port Morseby! Huzzah!
Ground combat at Port Moresby (98,130)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 25730 troops, 465 guns, 351 vehicles, Assault Value = 896
Defending force 6131 troops, 48 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 71
Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 1
Allied adjusted assault: 356
Japanese adjusted defense: 35
Allied assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 1)
Allied forces CAPTURE Port Moresby !!!
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 8 destroyed
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
3162 casualties reported
Squads: 42 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 88 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 27 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 31 (31 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 4
Allied ground losses:
182 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Units pursuing 2
Assaulting units:
Americal Infantry Division
2/4th Armoured Regiment
27th Infantry Division
762nd Tank Battalion
2/6th Armoured Regiment
198th Field Artillery Battalion
205th Field Artillery Battalion
1st Marine Defense Battalion
Defending units:
144th Infantry Regiment
3rd Construction Battalion
33rd JNAF AF Unit
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RE: Invasion West Coast!
Have you considered taking Horn Island and Meruake? If lightly garrisoned, you could take them easily and begin to threaten the Timor sea region.
RE: Invasion West Coast!
That tanker you torpedoed is going to have to head to Singapore to repair. Hope your sub gets another shot at it!
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Have you considered taking Horn Island and Meruake? If lightly garrisoned, you could take them easily and begin to threaten the Timor sea region.
Invasions coming there shortly. [:)]

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
That tanker you torpedoed is going to have to head to Singapore to repair. Hope your sub gets another shot at it!
Yeah, going to move the sub towards Singers and see if I run into here again.

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This level of carelessness seems like the exact opposite of victory disease (but with similar effect). Almost a fatal approach and mindset in his game as of late, Lowpe!
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This level of carelessness seems like the exact opposite of victory disease (but with similar effect). Almost a fatal approach and mindset in his game as of late, Lowpe!
He also forgot to stand down the bombers at Butte. Most of them turned back before the Buffs could get to them though.
Not a good sign...

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister
ORIGINAL: Anachro
This level of carelessness seems like the exact opposite of victory disease (but with similar effect). Almost a fatal approach and mindset in his game as of late, Lowpe!
He also forgot to stand down the bombers at Butte. Most of them turned back before the Buffs could get to them though.
Not a good sign...
Could be low on Morale.
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Could be low on Morale.
Of course it was low morale. He lost 60 or so of them the turn before so morale must have be shot.
Jeff forgot them to stand them down after that attack. Which is not a good sign of someone focused and playing his best which was what I meant with my comment.

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