MWiF & WiTP-AE, Can the Two Worlds Co-Exist?
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RE: MWiF & WiTP-AE, Can the Two Worlds Co-Exist?
 I used the shortcut of grounding each to the nearest water pipe.  That's not optimal since putting a charge on the pipe encourages plaque development inside the pipe.  Despite some people thinking it counterintuitive, the best ground is a ground rod (at least 6') driven into the ground near the structure.  Some homes that are so old they don't have grounded outlets still have a ground rod attached to a lightning rod which is perfectly acceptable to use.  If you're doing this yourself, try to make sure not to ground anything to a gas line, that could be a source of ignition.
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RE: MWiF & WiTP-AE, Can the Two Worlds Co-Exist?
 That plaque can form inside both steel pipes and copper pipes, but not plastic ones, but that's moot since you can't ground anything to a plastic pipe.
			
			
									
						
							RE: MWiF & WiTP-AE, Can the Two Worlds Co-Exist?
 rkr,
 
Yes you can have both games going at the same time.
 
I have WITPAE running, and have a break by continuing a couple of John Tiller games, Battles of Normandy, France 14 & East Prussia 14 are on the go at the moment. I run a short set of notes and maps if possible.
 
Regarding WIF, I own a very early edition, it being one of the best games designed in Australia, and honestly believe that an AI is impossible and PBEM VERY hard. The interaction within phases MAKES the game as a face to face experience, it also makes it very hard to program. Looking at you current games shows this, continual asking for reactions etc. We had great fun face to face but on a computer......
 
Have fun playing both, even against the AI in WITPAE or against yourself in WIF
			
			
									
						
							Yes you can have both games going at the same time.
I have WITPAE running, and have a break by continuing a couple of John Tiller games, Battles of Normandy, France 14 & East Prussia 14 are on the go at the moment. I run a short set of notes and maps if possible.
Regarding WIF, I own a very early edition, it being one of the best games designed in Australia, and honestly believe that an AI is impossible and PBEM VERY hard. The interaction within phases MAKES the game as a face to face experience, it also makes it very hard to program. Looking at you current games shows this, continual asking for reactions etc. We had great fun face to face but on a computer......
Have fun playing both, even against the AI in WITPAE or against yourself in WIF
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RE: MWiF & WiTP-AE, Can the Two Worlds Co-Exist?
ORIGINAL: JeffK
Regarding WIF, I own a very early edition, it being one of the best games designed in Australia, and honestly believe that an AI is impossible and PBEM VERY hard. The interaction within phases MAKES the game as a face to face experience, it also makes it very hard to program. Looking at you current games shows this, continual asking for reactions etc. We had great fun face to face but on a computer......
What are you referring to??? Platypuses were designed in Australia. Are they ducks or muskrats or what? All those marsupials in Oz just look at the platypus and laugh! What have you been smoking?
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 JeffK needs a new avatar, and here's the beginning of one.  There's plenty of room on the bottom for a maxim or something.
 
 
			
							
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Wrong thread for the avatar advice stuff, but if I was Aussie I would favour the Tasmanian Devil - either the real one showing off his huge mouth or the Warner Brothers one that can bore through trees and walls.ORIGINAL: geofflambert
JeffK needs a new avatar, and here's the beginning of one. There's plenty of room on the bottom for a maxim or something.

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						RE: MWiF & WiTP-AE, Can the Two Worlds Co-Exist?
You have not noticed the amount of OT post in this forum.
Many of the OT posts are still related to the subject to one degree or another (a video or a book for example). With the lead of OT, its obvious that its not about the game and if you don't care to read it you can just skip it. So what's the problem?
Well I recently purchased the board game version of WiF, or the version I like to call everything in flames as it has all the add ons. Daunting project, but I assume I'll get there sooner or later. Just the number of counters is daunting. Wonder how long it'll take me to punch, trim, and sort those. Yes, I did say trim, always did, always will with all my board games.[:'(] As of yet I haven't had the time to get involved with the beast.
On a side note (OT)[:D], I've recently started playing board games with an old friend who moved back to the area. Right now its Bonaparte at Morengo. Nice little game which can be played in an hour or so.
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RE: MWiF & WiTP-AE, Can the Two Worlds Co-Exist?
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Had a look at the WiF product info - while I am sure it would be somewhat fun to play, I cannot conceive of adequately dealing with the whole war across the whole world in only 36 turns. Just too large a scale for me - I want to see the individual combats as they take place.
This. What drew me to AE was the notion of being able to track every single thing going on across half the globe on a timescale that made each of those individual parts both noticeable and significant.
RE: MWiF & WiTP-AE, Can the Two Worlds Co-Exist?
Thanks! [:)]ORIGINAL: JeffK
rkr,
Yes you can have both games going at the same time.
I have WITPAE running, and have a break by continuing a couple of John Tiller games, Battles of Normandy, France 14 & East Prussia 14 are on the go at the moment. I run a short set of notes and maps if possible.
Playing MWiF by PBEM has actually not been that bad. There are times when several iterations are necessary, which we do by consecutive posts, but there's a lot of time when they're not.ORIGINAL: JeffK
Regarding WIF, I own a very early edition, it being one of the best games designed in Australia, and honestly believe that an AI is impossible and PBEM VERY hard. The interaction within phases MAKES the game as a face to face experience, it also makes it very hard to program. Looking at you current games shows this, continual asking for reactions etc. We had great fun face to face but on a computer......
Yes. [:)]ORIGINAL: JeffK
Have fun playing both, even against the AI in WITPAE or against yourself in WIF
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						RE: MWiF & WiTP-AE, Can the Two Worlds Co-Exist?
 Putting WiF and WITP:AE aside, has anyone played Making History? Seems the HOI series put that title into obscurity. 
 
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RE: MWiF & WiTP-AE, Can the Two Worlds Co-Exist?
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Putting WiF and WITP:AE aside, has anyone played Making History? Seems the HOI series put that title into obscurity.
A shame given how terrible the HoI series is nowadays. They could do with some competition.
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I'm happy to fly my flag, which would be illegal to do outside a residence in the USA.ORIGINAL: geofflambert
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RE: MWiF & WiTP-AE, Can the Two Worlds Co-Exist?
My wife an I do all the time...in Texas no less. As do a couple of other Aussies in the neighborhood. We just don't do it on the 4th of July out of respect. The blue goes well with all the UT Orange that is much more prolific than the stars and stripes.ORIGINAL: JeffK
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RE: MWiF & WiTP-AE, Can the Two Worlds Co-Exist?
 Just do your patriotic duty and don't follow New Zealand's example
			
			
									
						
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ORIGINAL: JeffK
I'm happy to fly my flag, which would be illegal to do outside a residence in the USA.
[&:] Maybe an inside joke with the Gorn?
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 I don't have any inside things with any of you pathetic Earthlings, and don't you forget it!
			
			
									
						
							RE: MWiF & WiTP-AE, Can the Two Worlds Co-Exist?
 A)   I never said I have a problem with OT forum post per se.  In general it is a good thing for the reasons many have stated.  The ONLY thing I took issue with is AITPAE players equating this with the games' superiority over other games.  This is a fallacious argument.  Hell, WITPAE may well be the greatest game ever made but forum activity does not mean a thing.
 
B) I was not complaing about any time it was taking to answer the question I had posed. It was simply an attempt on my part to redirect the conversation away from my bs to a legitimate question I had. Nothing more, nothing less. I thanked the guy who responded with his thoughts.
 
C) IF you were bullwinkle not being insulting by calling the designer of MWIF a person in an apartment in Honolulu in ill health then I apologize. Perhaps you just have a terse way of expressing things to which your friends have grown accustomed.
 
In short, I appologize for coming to your elitist party uninvited and taking a dump on your coffee table. It remains my secret (wink) that I also urinated on your fine china. So throw another shrimp on the barbie and eat up.
 
Annoying enough for ya?
 
 
			
			
									
						
										
						B) I was not complaing about any time it was taking to answer the question I had posed. It was simply an attempt on my part to redirect the conversation away from my bs to a legitimate question I had. Nothing more, nothing less. I thanked the guy who responded with his thoughts.
C) IF you were bullwinkle not being insulting by calling the designer of MWIF a person in an apartment in Honolulu in ill health then I apologize. Perhaps you just have a terse way of expressing things to which your friends have grown accustomed.
In short, I appologize for coming to your elitist party uninvited and taking a dump on your coffee table. It remains my secret (wink) that I also urinated on your fine china. So throw another shrimp on the barbie and eat up.
Annoying enough for ya?
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RE: MWiF & WiTP-AE, Can the Two Worlds Co-Exist?
ORIGINAL: BradK82
A) I never said I have a problem with OT forum post per se. In general it is a good thing for the reasons many have stated. The ONLY thing I took issue with is AITPAE players equating this with the games superiority over other games. This is a fallacious argument. Hell, WITPAE may well be the greatest game ever made but forum activity does not mean a thing.
B) I was not complaing about any time it was taking to answer the question I had posed. It was simply an attempt on my part to redirect the conversation away from my bs to a legitimate question I had. Nothing more, nothing less.
C) IF you were bullwinkle not being insulting by calling the the designer of MWIF a person in an apartment in Honolulu in ill health then I apologize. Perhaps you just have a terse way of expressing things to which your friends have grown accustomed.
In short, I appologize for coming to your elitist party uninvited and taking a dump on your coffee table. It remains my secret (wink) that I also urinated on your fine China. So throw another shrimp on the barbie and eat up.
Annoying enough for ya?
Yeah, you're annoying all right. Mission accomplished. That was your mission when you came over, right?
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