Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

ORIGINAL: mind_messing

I'm actually glad to see the slaughter on Honshu that you're having to endure, it makes me feel justified in my decision to spend supplies copiously in digging forts on Honshu.

Don't forget that the forts will most likely reduce supply stockpile hits from aerial bombardments.[:)]

Uh, I don't think they do that, do they?

[njp72]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

ORIGINAL: mind_messing

I'm actually glad to see the slaughter on Honshu that you're having to endure, it makes me feel justified in my decision to spend supplies copiously in digging forts on Honshu.

Don't forget that the forts will most likely reduce supply stockpile hits from aerial bombardments.[:)]

Uh, I don't think they do that, do they?

I would love to know the answer to that question as well [:)]

[Lowpe]

Dec 16, 1944

Over 20 units arrive on train cars into rail yards at Nagoya...

they arrives into a maelstrom of destruction and death![X(]

They are joined by every able bodied pixel man from Hamamatsu, they arrived yesterday, and were in battle positions.

The attack comes![X(]

[Lowpe]

Oh my!

Ground combat at Nagoya (111,60)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 172121 troops, 2679 guns, 4713 vehicles, Assault Value = 5877

Defending force 177004 troops, 2658 guns, 459 vehicles, Assault Value = 3487

Allied adjusted assault: 1491

Japanese adjusted defense: 2673

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), leaders(+), disruption(-)
preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker: disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
10960 casualties reported
Squads: 230 destroyed, 558 disabled
Non Combat: 47 destroyed, 145 disabled
Engineers: 16 destroyed, 111 disabled
Guns lost 186 (59 destroyed, 127 disabled)
Vehicles lost 37 (8 destroyed, 29 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Allied ground losses:
3139 casualties reported
Squads: 21 destroyed, 342 disabled
Non Combat: 14 destroyed, 133 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 54 disabled
Guns lost 90 (8 destroyed, 82 disabled)
Vehicles lost 322 (22 destroyed, 300 disabled)

Assaulting units:
44th Tank Battalion
4th Marine Division
640th Tank Destroyer Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion
706th Tank Battalion
193rd Tank Battalion
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
766th Tank Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
3rd USMC Tank Battalion
775th Tank Battalion
711th Tank Battalion
671th Tank Destroyer Battalion
1st Marine Division
25th Infantry Division
XIV Corps Combat Engineer Regiment
3rd Marine Division
33rd Infantry Division
763rd Tank Battalion
37th Infantry Division
2nd Marine Division
43rd Infantry Division
I Corps Cmbt Engineer Regiment
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
40th Infantry Division
713th Flame Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
710th Tank Battalion
41st Infantry Division
7th Infantry Division
XXIV CorpsArtillery
XIV Corps Artillery
XI Corps Artillery
168th Field Artillery Regiment
X Corps Artillery
225th Field Artillery Battalion
1 USMC Seacoast Art

Defending units:
Yokosuka 3rd SNLF
2nd Glider Inf. Regiment
65th Brigade
69th Ind.Mixed Brigade
38th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Sasebo SNLF Coy
73rd/A Division
60th Ind.Mixed Brigade
14th Ind.Mixed Regiment
5th Indpt SNLF Coy
57th Depot Division
84th Division
1st Tank Division
73rd/B Division
1st Ind.Tank Brigade
57th Ind.Mixed Brigade
3rd Guards/B Division
66th Ind.Mixed Brigade
48th Division
16th Ind.Mixed Regiment
34th Ind.Mixed Brigade
4th Tank Division
78th Infantry Brigade
46th Division
81st Division
71st Ind.Mixed Brigade
17th Ind.Mixed Regiment
1st Raiding Tank Battalion
31st Engineer Regiment
56th Naval Guard Unit
3rd Guards/A Division
1st Glider Inf. Regiment
6th Depot Division
35th Ind.Mixed Brigade
54th Ind.Mixed Brigade
56th Depot Division
73rd/C Division
58th Ind.Mixed Brigade
91st Division
2nd Depot Division
3rd Guards/C Division
21th JNAF AF Unit
56th JNAF AF Unit
54th Field AA Battalion
7th JNAF Coy
206th Naval Construction Battalion
11th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
246th JAAF AF Bn
31st Air Defense AA Regiment
7th Base Force
28th Field AA Machinecannon Company
23rd AA Regiment
87th JAAF AF Bn
102nd AA Regiment
78th Field AA Machinecannon Company
Nanyo Cho JNAF Base Force
7th Medium Mortar Battalion
111th AA Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion
50th Field AA Battalion
89th JAAF AF Bn
3rd Special Base Force
57th Construction Battalion
121st AA Regiment
94th Field AA Battalion
Nampo Shoto JNAF Base Force
43rd JAAF AF Bn
140th JAAF AF Bn
94th JAAF AF Bn
1st Ind.AA Gun Co
65th JAAF AF Bn
11th JNAF AF Unit
31st JAAF AF Bn
Hokuto JNAF Base Force
141st JAAF AF Bn
9th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
32nd Special Base Force
163rd JAAF AF Bn
5th Mortar Battalion
2nd Base Force
227th Naval Construction Battalion
77th Field AA Battalion
176th JAAF AF Bn
190th JAAF AF Bn
131st Naval Construction Battalion
37th Ind. Engineer Regiment
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
248th JAAF AF Bn
94th Engineer Regiment
62nd Special AA Machinecannon Company
61st Field AA Battalion
107th JAAF AF Bn
56th Construction Battalion
65th Construction Battalion
1st Naval Construction Battalion
39th Const Co
29th Field AF Construction Battalion
175th JAAF AF Bn
Kanto JNAF Base Force
12th RF Gun Battalion
29th Ind. Engineer Regiment
20th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
19th JAAF Base Force
49th JAAF AF Bn
64th Construction Battalion
Maraisha JNAF Base Force
189th JAAF AF Bn
10th RF Gun Battalion
13th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
79th Field AA Machinecannon Company
11th Special Base Force
3rd Machine Cannon AA Battalion
146th JAAF AF Bn
96th Field AA Battalion
23rd Special Base Force
2nd Ind. Engineer Regiment
8th JNAF AF Unit
26th RF Gun Battalion
Suzuka JNAF Base Force

[Lowpe]

China...

[Lowpe]

Lots of VP at Shanghai, and it isn't heavily defended, but more and more troops arrive each day.

Only need to hold for 14 more days and the rail line from Nanking to Manchuko is still intact.

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: njp72

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: Lowpe





Don't forget that the forts will most likely reduce supply stockpile hits from aerial bombardments.[:)]

Uh, I don't think they do that, do they?

I would love to know the answer to that question as well [:)]

I have mentioned this before, and read the rules quite closely and have evidence of my games to firmly believe this is the case.

I don't know the mechanics, and there could even be more than one benefit: i.e. reducing the number of supply hits and a percent reduction in the effectiveness of the bombs at destroying supplies formula for those that do hit.

[BBfanboy]

+1 on the forts protecting supply as well as troops/devices.

[Lowpe]

I just wanted to point out the Allied disruption malus in the attack on Nagoya...

I think the 4th Marine has been knocked down to near 200 AV...so even though my troops are shot and falling like flies, I just need to hold on for two more weeks.

[mind_messing]

Did you ever get CD guns to fire on enemy shipping on the Yangste?

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: mind_messing

Did you ever get CD guns to fire on enemy shipping on the Yangste?

Only on shore bombardments.

Mines never worked either.

So disappointing!

[Lowpe]

One of my many problems is supply, and supply getting to Nagoya and Maizuru.

I have had to move units in and out of the cities so they can resupply, rather than wait for the supply to ship into those towns. It is a pain...

I have gone to leaving all AA in reserve no pursuit mode as it moves in and out of the cities, but this way I always have some AA firing at the Allied bombers. If they stayed put, then no AA would fire and I would embolden the Allies. But I get tired of moving the the units in and out, so normally start 10 or so units each way each turn.

Lots of other units are using reserve no pursuit mode too. I find having about 20 to 30 percent of the raw AV in this mode helps, but I don't put low experience troops into this mode for fear they won't fight.

The countdown is really on!

[mind_messing]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

ORIGINAL: mind_messing

Did you ever get CD guns to fire on enemy shipping on the Yangste?

Only on shore bombardments.

Mines never worked either.

So disappointing!

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I've been doing some testing myself and I'm convinced something isn't quite right in regards to CD guns on rivers. Plus, I was right about there being something off with barrage balloons and night bombing, so I'm not completely crazy!

[Lowpe]

Dec 17, 1944

No major attacks on Honshu...

Japanese troops are really on their last legs, but I am also wearing down the Allies somewhat.

[Lowpe]

Hankow attacked by hordes of Chinese troops....forts dropped to 5.

Nanking attacked and maintains their fort level.

[Lowpe]

It is interesting to see how Japan use's of units change during the game.

I squandered a lot of my air force in pointless attacks...

I squandered my transports in risky last minute escapes...

Now, they are both extremely valuable in flying supplies with only the very rare attack.

Getting supplies to the combat troops is simply so very important in the slugfest that has evolved here.

I think a more methodical Allied player would have destroyed all my supply generation by now, but I still make quite a bit. Industry at Shanghai is untouched for example as is most of Manchuko and Korea.

[Lowpe]

Dec 18th, 1944

No major attacks, but the Allies are recovering fast at Nagoya. The 4th Marine improves 40 AV in one day.

I am shipping supplies to Port Moresby and Rabaul which are out of supplies. I am hoping the supplies make it there to boost the base victory point total here at the end. Both locations are worth a lot of points for Japan and might give me an unexpected VP edge.

At least that is the plan.

[Lowpe]

Dec 19th 1944

Attack at Maizuru...

Ground combat at Maizuru (110,58)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 150124 troops, 2429 guns, 3890 vehicles, Assault Value = 5393

Defending force 177111 troops, 2840 guns, 1251 vehicles, Assault Value = 4457

Allied adjusted assault: 1568

Japanese adjusted defense: 957

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
10571 casualties reported
Squads: 234 destroyed, 452 disabled
Non Combat: 41 destroyed, 168 disabled
Engineers: 19 destroyed, 72 disabled
Guns lost 254 (79 destroyed, 175 disabled)
Vehicles lost 42 (9 destroyed, 33 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
3622 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 440 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 120 disabled
Engineers: 26 destroyed, 112 disabled
Guns lost 50 (2 destroyed, 48 disabled)
Vehicles lost 173 (10 destroyed, 163 disabled)

[Lowpe]

Holding for now in China...

[Lowpe]

Attack at surrounded Changsha

Ground combat at Changsha (82,52)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 93486 troops, 281 guns, 416 vehicles, Assault Value = 3477

Defending force 68774 troops, 663 guns, 377 vehicles, Assault Value = 1961

Allied adjusted assault: 1954

Japanese adjusted defense: 1443

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
9280 casualties reported
Squads: 70 destroyed, 840 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 189 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 66 disabled
Guns lost 170 (13 destroyed, 157 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
4119 casualties reported
Squads: 23 destroyed, 448 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 54 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 46 disabled
Guns lost 21 (1 destroyed, 20 disabled)