To test K-62's new rules (shown below) we have decided to start a new thread, and I will provide weekly updates from the newspaper Pravda and K-62 will contribute when he has time.
Also I will try to make some comments regarding the new rules +'s and -'s as the campaign progresses.
If there are to many campaign threads going then as Tom1939 said post a reply asying so, we don't want to bore anyone.
We have had a lot of discussion about some of the rules but we have settled on the ones below:
GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT
(GA1) The players negotiate before the game the House Rules they are going to use. Anything that is not specifically prohibited by those House Rules is fair and allowed.
(GA2) If a player breaks a House Rule, his opponent can ask him to replay his turn. In doing so, he must perform the same actions as before, except those that broke the rule.
(GA3) No player will save in mid turn.
(GA4) No player will play his turn twice unless a computer failure has occurred.
(GA5) No player will use a program to alter or view the game situation without the permission of his opponent.
(GA6) At the end of the game, the players will exchange PBEM passwords.
HOUSE RULES
(1) A corps must fight under the command of the HQ that gave it Special Supply.
(2) If a corps does not have at least one mobile division in it then it can only plot 2 squares. Mobile divisions are Panzer/Tank, Motorized, PZG, Mechanized and Cavalry.
(3) No more than 3 air missions are allowed to target a single spot in a single turn.
(4) Soviet HQs that are in Siberia can't be attacked. Siberia is considered to be all territory within 3 hexes of the eastern edge of the map not in contact with Axis ground forces.
(5) West Front can only have German forces. SUD Front can only have German and Italian forces.
(6) There must be at least two fighter groups and one bomber group in Germany and in Italy at all times.
(7) Hungarian and Rumanian units can't be in the same corps.
(8) Leningrad's suburbs can't be attacked from the north as long as they have at least 3 Soviet divisions defending..
(9) Finnish forces are not allowed to advance more than 3 squares from Leningrad. Added: but Finnish forces can attack through Karelia.
(10) A corps that has received air supply can't plot in the same turn.
(11) No corps can move more than 2 squares if its path goes through difficult terrain. Difficult terrain is defined in the manual: mountains, swamp and the northern latitudes.
(12) When an enemy unit retreats a friendly unit must advance in its place.
(13) The Axis can't take units out of the West and SUD Fronts. Added: except the Axis player may replace Infantry Divisions with Panzer Divisions which cannot then be removed
(14) It is not allowed to produce obsolete units.
(15) It is not allowed to change the subordination of an HQ.
Issues Discussed but not included in the above rules:
1) Production (producing only heavy tanks discussed in another thread - Tiger issue)
2) Using out of supply units as part of encirclements
3) Finns allowed to make static attacks on 3rd square from Leningrad
4) Definition of a Pz Corps (must contain 1 German Pz Division and a maximum of 1 minor ally division)
Any comments please post a reply.
Cheers
Lienz Cossack
Barbarossa to Berlin/Moscow (Possum 6)
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Query about the rules
Having read the house rules there's one in particular that stands out, and needs a little more clarification IMO.
It's this one....
12) When an enemy unit retreats a friendly unit must advance in its place.
The presumption of this rule is that the unit that's retreating has been attacked.
What's to stop one of you just retreating your own units without been attacked?
The implications are that if you do this you, your opponent automatically has to fill the void as the rule stands.
Most likely you will have agreed between yourselves that this rule applies to combat and not to a tactical withdrawal as part of a non combat movement.
Apart from that I'll re-read the rules to see if I can find any more advantages that can be gained
It's this one....
12) When an enemy unit retreats a friendly unit must advance in its place.
The presumption of this rule is that the unit that's retreating has been attacked.
What's to stop one of you just retreating your own units without been attacked?
The implications are that if you do this you, your opponent automatically has to fill the void as the rule stands.
Most likely you will have agreed between yourselves that this rule applies to combat and not to a tactical withdrawal as part of a non combat movement.
Apart from that I'll re-read the rules to see if I can find any more advantages that can be gained
I didn't know it then, but looking back, in hindsight, I realize that when I was younger I could see into the future. Now I'm getting all my premonitions as flashbacks!
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Lienz Cossack
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Actually the rule does apply to combat only, we didn't discuss it in detail but I think it refers to K-62's anti-static attack thread, where he feels that if you static attack a unit and the attacked unit retreats then you cannot just attack for 20 miles and then return back to your entrenchment position, one of your attacking units must move into the void left by retreating unit.
Hope that this clarifies it, would be embarassing though if K-62 meant something else.
Hope that this clarifies it, would be embarassing though if K-62 meant something else.
That's true, Lienz Cossack, I did have static attacks in mind. I'm used to calling what EvilWeevil describes as a "withdrawal", because it is voluntary, while a "retreat" is involuntary. To make it more clear, I'll edit the rule a bit:
12) When an enemy unit retreats in combat a friendly unit must advance in its place.
I appreciate your comments EvilWeevil, if you find any more exploits please let me know
12) When an enemy unit retreats in combat a friendly unit must advance in its place.
I appreciate your comments EvilWeevil, if you find any more exploits please let me know
"Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views beyond the comprehension of the weak" - John Adams
(8) Leningrad's suburbs can't be attacked from the north as long as they have at least 3 Soviet divisions defending..
Well how do I know that there is 2 or less divisions defending, sofar I have never seen what there is in an enemy corp/army?
A great man ones said "Veni Vidi Vici" and "Alea iacta est"
But a lot other said this "Ave Caesar,morituri te salutant"
But a lot other said this "Ave Caesar,morituri te salutant"
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K-62 is trying to simulate the fact that the unit has to remain near its airfields the entire week in order to receive all the supplies.
At present the existing house rules assume that a unit receives all its supplies for the week instantly at the begining of the period.
I am not sure if the rule refers to out of supply and cut-off units or to all units.
K-62 will need to confirm this.
At present the existing house rules assume that a unit receives all its supplies for the week instantly at the begining of the period.
I am not sure if the rule refers to out of supply and cut-off units or to all units.
K-62 will need to confirm this.
Originally posted by wieschi
(10) A corps that has received air supply can't plot in the same turn.
I don`t agree with this rule. You want to make air supply to a pure defensive weapon. Why? What is the reason for this?
I think, air supply was more an offensive as a defensive strategy.
The rules should only be seen as a basis for negotiation, if you don't agree to it you can argue for its exclusion for some game you're about to start.
I'm currently giving this air supply rule a chance the way it is. The Germans are quite strong in '41 anyway, this should slow them down a bit for game balance.
Also, from the historical point of view, they wouldn't have sent trucks from a poorly defended, recently captured airfield, through uncertain roads, to a moving PzKorps that is maybe dificult to find and reach since it advances 100 miles a week. And even if they did, the efficiency of supply would have to decrease dramatically compared to when the PzKorps would just stick to the airfields.
Parachuting supplies happened, but it's very inefficient and wouldn't have yielded the hundreds of tons per week possible in WiR. The entire Luftwaffe at Stalingrad delivered to a stationary army something like 700 tons a week (correct me if I'm wrong, I hope at least I got the order of magnitude right).
"Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views beyond the comprehension of the weak" - John Adams
Originally posted by Chairman
Well how do I know that there is 2 or less divisions defending, sofar I have never seen what there is in an enemy corp/army?
I rewrote that to make it clear. The Soviets have to keep 3 divisions facing the Finns in Leningrad's suburbs.
"Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views beyond the comprehension of the weak" - John Adams
Stalingrad
The Germans in Stalingrad never exceeded 500 tons a week which was the minimum requirement. If memory serves me correctly though they only exceeded 200 tons for one week, when they first brought in Milch and he stepped up the campaign though took heavy losses. The weather was probably good for that week as well. In addition once the Soviets got too close to the airfields supplies went down drastically.
To the point of parachuting supplies to a panzer korps ... maybe 50 tons for an airgroup of 52's. That is at best defensive supply for one PzDiv. In normal attack mode each division needs 150 tons. 6th Armee's requirment of 500 tons should be considered minimal supply ie. 50 percent defensive strength 10-15 percent offensive. 6th Armee would have needed 2500 tons or more to take an offensive stance. They did probably have quite a bit of stores in the Stalingrad area, and I don't think that is adequately represented. There is also the issue of emergency supply such as eating horses and then not having to feed them etc...
I think in general air supply was used to get divisions out of bad situations, not to give them extra attacking strength. But, in a well planned attack such as Barbarossa, where all the divisions really needed was fuel and some ammo (no spare parts, not much food, etc.) to keep them going for another couple of days the supply could be highly effective. I just don't think the game has the complexity to model the flexibility of commanders in the field to make do in certain situations; situations that turned out to be turning points of battles.
To the point of parachuting supplies to a panzer korps ... maybe 50 tons for an airgroup of 52's. That is at best defensive supply for one PzDiv. In normal attack mode each division needs 150 tons. 6th Armee's requirment of 500 tons should be considered minimal supply ie. 50 percent defensive strength 10-15 percent offensive. 6th Armee would have needed 2500 tons or more to take an offensive stance. They did probably have quite a bit of stores in the Stalingrad area, and I don't think that is adequately represented. There is also the issue of emergency supply such as eating horses and then not having to feed them etc...
I think in general air supply was used to get divisions out of bad situations, not to give them extra attacking strength. But, in a well planned attack such as Barbarossa, where all the divisions really needed was fuel and some ammo (no spare parts, not much food, etc.) to keep them going for another couple of days the supply could be highly effective. I just don't think the game has the complexity to model the flexibility of commanders in the field to make do in certain situations; situations that turned out to be turning points of battles.
when the russians traped 6th army it lost about 90% of its supplies. it lost all of its repair and equipment depos. it lost almost all of its horses as higher hq said that it would be easier to feed them closer to the railhead. as for the airlift it was impossible. 6th army needed 200 tons a day not a week to maintain any fighting condition. the weather soviet massive fighter redeployment and AA made it almost impossible for ju52 to make it. one german fighter piolt said that 6 to 1 was too much even for the german airforce to handle. most transports had to carry alot of fuel for the fighters that were based in the fortress stalingrad also. 6th army was doomed once it got traped. the leader of the airforces supporting 6th army told belin that it could not support that many troops by air but he was not listened to and hitler believe goreing who said that it could be done. in fact one officer in front of hitler said that it was a lie but hitler said that if goreing said so it must be true. the house rule for air supply is good for trapped units.
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Turn 1
Pravda Newsflash
Large German army formations were unleashed on Mother Russia this week and through a series of hammer blows drove back our brave forces near the border regions.
An investigation has been ordered into why many Russian armoured formations around Lvov (captured) and Bialystock (captured) failed to put up significant resistance. As part of this process a number of incompetent front line generals have been relieved of their commands and are being interrogated, I mean interviewed in Lubiyanka.
Surprise attacks from the Luftwaffe devastated much of the Red airforce near border regions and many air groups were withdrawn to Siberia for training and upgrading.
The advance of enemy forces towards Odessa cut-off supply to 2nd Cav. Motorised Corps, which has been ordered to hold out until a miracle counter-attack can be mounted to relieve them. The 12th Mtn Army and 17th Mtn Corps also surprised at the speed of the advance withdrew as far as possible.
The 3rd and 6th Mech Corps have been cut-off and were ordered to breakout to the north-west and west, respectively. However, due to communication problems (a lack of paper cups and string) their commanders were not informed by headquarters of the urgency or importance of these orders and failed to break out.
Campaign Losses
Soviet
Squads 7553
AFV's 2338
Guns 4207
Aircraft 6142
Axis casualties minimal
End of news flash
Large German army formations were unleashed on Mother Russia this week and through a series of hammer blows drove back our brave forces near the border regions.
An investigation has been ordered into why many Russian armoured formations around Lvov (captured) and Bialystock (captured) failed to put up significant resistance. As part of this process a number of incompetent front line generals have been relieved of their commands and are being interrogated, I mean interviewed in Lubiyanka.
Surprise attacks from the Luftwaffe devastated much of the Red airforce near border regions and many air groups were withdrawn to Siberia for training and upgrading.
The advance of enemy forces towards Odessa cut-off supply to 2nd Cav. Motorised Corps, which has been ordered to hold out until a miracle counter-attack can be mounted to relieve them. The 12th Mtn Army and 17th Mtn Corps also surprised at the speed of the advance withdrew as far as possible.
The 3rd and 6th Mech Corps have been cut-off and were ordered to breakout to the north-west and west, respectively. However, due to communication problems (a lack of paper cups and string) their commanders were not informed by headquarters of the urgency or importance of these orders and failed to break out.
Campaign Losses
Soviet
Squads 7553
AFV's 2338
Guns 4207
Aircraft 6142
Axis casualties minimal
End of news flash
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Yep
After sending the message I thought day sounded more reasonable than week.
I agree with your conclusion completely, although the supply depots, horses etc would have some effect of their supply level. I have found that the 6th Armee in the game shattered too quickly, but I haven't played that scenario in the new version.
Aircraft supply is very difficult and can only be used to support very small forces, or supply a very limited subsection of supllies to a larger group. For example, I think a PzDiv could conceivably carry two weeks of food, and some amount of additional ammo and other general supplies, but fuel is more of a critical need and more difficult to carry.
Even during Gulf War II the lead elements were not able to be effectively supplied by air, although I am not sure how hard they tried given that land based supplies were close at hand. Fuel was transported to the front, rather dangerously, in tankers. Obviously in a true emergency we could have air-supplied, but the capacity of such supply has always been very limited.
I agree with your conclusion completely, although the supply depots, horses etc would have some effect of their supply level. I have found that the 6th Armee in the game shattered too quickly, but I haven't played that scenario in the new version.
Aircraft supply is very difficult and can only be used to support very small forces, or supply a very limited subsection of supllies to a larger group. For example, I think a PzDiv could conceivably carry two weeks of food, and some amount of additional ammo and other general supplies, but fuel is more of a critical need and more difficult to carry.
Even during Gulf War II the lead elements were not able to be effectively supplied by air, although I am not sure how hard they tried given that land based supplies were close at hand. Fuel was transported to the front, rather dangerously, in tankers. Obviously in a true emergency we could have air-supplied, but the capacity of such supply has always been very limited.
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Sorry to interrupt but there has to be a new rule added to the house rules. Urgent.
Finns are not to be allowed to be railroaded out of Finland to attack Leningrad from the South (I thought that was presumed but as it has just happened to me it has to be made explicit).
Advance to the three squares south of Leningad is only possible after the fall of Leningrad to Axis - non Finnish - forces.
Finns are not to be allowed to be railroaded out of Finland to attack Leningrad from the South (I thought that was presumed but as it has just happened to me it has to be made explicit).
Advance to the three squares south of Leningad is only possible after the fall of Leningrad to Axis - non Finnish - forces.
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29 June 1941 - Week 2
Pravda Newflash
Axis forces spent the week attacking Red Airforce airfields and mopping up the 3rd and 6th Mech Corps. On surrendering officers of the the German Panzer Korps promptly gave Russian officers a demonstration of the latest wireless communications equipment in use in the German Army. However, many of the senior Russian commanders remain unconvinced that it is more effective than the Soviet paper cup and string system.
Major Lufwaffe airfield attacks on the southern Front that destroyed 1000+ plus "modern" I-16 and I-153 etc. aircraft proved ineffective from the Soviet strategic point of view due to their huge reserves of these quality machines. The Luftwaffe also bombed airfields controlled by Southwest and Northern Front HQ's.
The 2nd Motorised Cav. Corps attempted to break-out. However, its attempt failed following the discovery a warehouse containing large quantities of Stolychnaya vodka and silyodka (salted fish), hidden in preperation for Stalin's birthday celebrations south of the beach resort of Odessa. The well equipped 5th farmer, 6th civil servant and 11th "deciding on our sexual orientation" corps of the 4th pathetic Rumanian Army were happy to sit out the week rather than face a bunch of drunk, bayonet wielding Russians.
Several mushroom picking expeditions organised by the commanders of the 12th Mtn. Army and 17th Mtn. Corps to stave off starvation as they attempted to retreat towards the Russian lines had serious hallucinogenic consequences for all concerned and the retreat failed to achieve its objectives.
Frontline Red Army forces retreated to so called safe distances in order to regroup and resupply prior to counter-attacking. Rumours of potential factory evacutions to the Urals over the next few weeks are widespread throughout many Soviet Cities. Beach resort of Odessa expected come under axis bombardment next week.
Pravda Newflash
Axis forces spent the week attacking Red Airforce airfields and mopping up the 3rd and 6th Mech Corps. On surrendering officers of the the German Panzer Korps promptly gave Russian officers a demonstration of the latest wireless communications equipment in use in the German Army. However, many of the senior Russian commanders remain unconvinced that it is more effective than the Soviet paper cup and string system.
Major Lufwaffe airfield attacks on the southern Front that destroyed 1000+ plus "modern" I-16 and I-153 etc. aircraft proved ineffective from the Soviet strategic point of view due to their huge reserves of these quality machines. The Luftwaffe also bombed airfields controlled by Southwest and Northern Front HQ's.
The 2nd Motorised Cav. Corps attempted to break-out. However, its attempt failed following the discovery a warehouse containing large quantities of Stolychnaya vodka and silyodka (salted fish), hidden in preperation for Stalin's birthday celebrations south of the beach resort of Odessa. The well equipped 5th farmer, 6th civil servant and 11th "deciding on our sexual orientation" corps of the 4th pathetic Rumanian Army were happy to sit out the week rather than face a bunch of drunk, bayonet wielding Russians.
Several mushroom picking expeditions organised by the commanders of the 12th Mtn. Army and 17th Mtn. Corps to stave off starvation as they attempted to retreat towards the Russian lines had serious hallucinogenic consequences for all concerned and the retreat failed to achieve its objectives.
Frontline Red Army forces retreated to so called safe distances in order to regroup and resupply prior to counter-attacking. Rumours of potential factory evacutions to the Urals over the next few weeks are widespread throughout many Soviet Cities. Beach resort of Odessa expected come under axis bombardment next week.
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Week 3 - 6 July 1941
Pravda Newsflash
Axis forces advanced toward Vitebsk unopposed, surrounded Odessa in the south even though it had been abandoned by the Red Army and performed two large encircling movements to cut-off the 12th and 17 Mtn Corps that had tried escape the encirclement.
The 2nd Mot. Cav. Corp south of Odessa was inactive as the vodka party continued for a second week still cut-off by the 4th Pathetic Rumanian Army that remained inactive.
Initial indications appear that Axis forces are concentrating on taking Moscow with no advance on Leningrad visible yet (see jpeg). Axis panzer forces are concentrated on the road to Vitebsk (at least 4/5 Panzer Korps and another 3 pushing through the Pripet marshes.
Axis supply lines appear stretched but initial indications appear that Axis forces are concentrating on taking Moscow with no advance on Leningrad visible yet.
The Red Army continued to dig in and the Red I-16 and I153 Airforce bouyed by the previous weeks successes (by Russian standards) decided to perform a series of suicidal attacks on Axis airfields resulting in heavy casualties. Minor success in the north was achieved where Finnish airfields were bombed.
A misjudged probing attack by the General of the Red Army's Karelian forces in the North resulted in both units being repulsed with moderate losses by the Finnish IV Corp which were stationed in a marsh/swamp area.
Major clashes expected in the coming weeks.
End of Newsflash
Pravda Newsflash
Axis forces advanced toward Vitebsk unopposed, surrounded Odessa in the south even though it had been abandoned by the Red Army and performed two large encircling movements to cut-off the 12th and 17 Mtn Corps that had tried escape the encirclement.
The 2nd Mot. Cav. Corp south of Odessa was inactive as the vodka party continued for a second week still cut-off by the 4th Pathetic Rumanian Army that remained inactive.
Initial indications appear that Axis forces are concentrating on taking Moscow with no advance on Leningrad visible yet (see jpeg). Axis panzer forces are concentrated on the road to Vitebsk (at least 4/5 Panzer Korps and another 3 pushing through the Pripet marshes.
Axis supply lines appear stretched but initial indications appear that Axis forces are concentrating on taking Moscow with no advance on Leningrad visible yet.
The Red Army continued to dig in and the Red I-16 and I153 Airforce bouyed by the previous weeks successes (by Russian standards) decided to perform a series of suicidal attacks on Axis airfields resulting in heavy casualties. Minor success in the north was achieved where Finnish airfields were bombed.
A misjudged probing attack by the General of the Red Army's Karelian forces in the North resulted in both units being repulsed with moderate losses by the Finnish IV Corp which were stationed in a marsh/swamp area.
Major clashes expected in the coming weeks.
End of Newsflash
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Week 4 - 13 July 1941
Pravda Newsflash
Axis forces continued to move unnopposed on Smolensk, concentrating what appears to be at least 8 Panzer divisions in the region although visibility is limited due to the fact that the Red Airforce issued new entry vision requirements for trainee pilots of 'almost blind' as a result of heavy losses inflicted by the Luftwaffe in recent weeks.
Needless to say most Red Airforce attacks were ineffective this week except for against the Finnish who are believed to have similar entry level airforce vision requirements.
Luftwaffe bombed airfields of Russian HQ's all along the line and Moscow and Kharkov this week causing damage to Artillery and Tank factories respectively. Intelligence indicates that Axis Supply lines are stretched by the Axis's rapid advance.
In the south 4-5 Axis Panzer Corps moved towards the crossroads south of the Dnepr and Poltava. A number of Red Army units retreated following a number of skirmishes with Axis forces that turned into full scale battles, casualties were heavy approximately 17,500 men. Axis intentions are unclear but they must take the crossroads if they intend to move east or north. Red Army troops continued to dig in along the Dnepr.
Approximately 80,000 men, 400 guns and 160 afvs of the 12th and 17th Mtn. Corps surrendered after what appeared to be a dawn tractor raid by the one of the Rumanian Corps, although details of the attack remain sketchy it appears that both Corps racked by starvation had consumed copious amounts of the only available local fauna, an unidentified type of mushroom. Early in the morning it appears that all the troops in a psychedelic haze misinterpreted the Rumanians and tractors for Elite German SS troops and Pz IIIh's and promtly surrendered. The shame of the surrender has yet to sink in as the effects of the mushrooms have not yet worn off.
The surrounded 2nd Mot. Cav. Division's party extended for another week despite attempts by the 4th Pathetic Rumanian Army to bring the celebrations to a close. Skirmishes on Friday evening with the Rumanians turned into a full scale battle. However large numbers of Russian troops repulsed the attacks armed with bottles of vodka and charging the enemy 1st World War style and using close combat vodka breath to incapacitate enemy troops.
End of News Flash
K-62 could you attach an jpg.
Pravda Newsflash
Axis forces continued to move unnopposed on Smolensk, concentrating what appears to be at least 8 Panzer divisions in the region although visibility is limited due to the fact that the Red Airforce issued new entry vision requirements for trainee pilots of 'almost blind' as a result of heavy losses inflicted by the Luftwaffe in recent weeks.
Needless to say most Red Airforce attacks were ineffective this week except for against the Finnish who are believed to have similar entry level airforce vision requirements.
Luftwaffe bombed airfields of Russian HQ's all along the line and Moscow and Kharkov this week causing damage to Artillery and Tank factories respectively. Intelligence indicates that Axis Supply lines are stretched by the Axis's rapid advance.
In the south 4-5 Axis Panzer Corps moved towards the crossroads south of the Dnepr and Poltava. A number of Red Army units retreated following a number of skirmishes with Axis forces that turned into full scale battles, casualties were heavy approximately 17,500 men. Axis intentions are unclear but they must take the crossroads if they intend to move east or north. Red Army troops continued to dig in along the Dnepr.
Approximately 80,000 men, 400 guns and 160 afvs of the 12th and 17th Mtn. Corps surrendered after what appeared to be a dawn tractor raid by the one of the Rumanian Corps, although details of the attack remain sketchy it appears that both Corps racked by starvation had consumed copious amounts of the only available local fauna, an unidentified type of mushroom. Early in the morning it appears that all the troops in a psychedelic haze misinterpreted the Rumanians and tractors for Elite German SS troops and Pz IIIh's and promtly surrendered. The shame of the surrender has yet to sink in as the effects of the mushrooms have not yet worn off.
The surrounded 2nd Mot. Cav. Division's party extended for another week despite attempts by the 4th Pathetic Rumanian Army to bring the celebrations to a close. Skirmishes on Friday evening with the Rumanians turned into a full scale battle. However large numbers of Russian troops repulsed the attacks armed with bottles of vodka and charging the enemy 1st World War style and using close combat vodka breath to incapacitate enemy troops.
End of News Flash
K-62 could you attach an jpg.
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week 5 - 20th July
Pravda News flash
Axis forces took Vitebsk this week forcing out the entrenched Soviet defenders. The Luftwaffe struck Soviet airbases in the north south and centre although although not as successfully as earlier in the campaign as there were virtually no operational planes left on the Russian front line.
Elsewhere in a show of strength the Germans lined up at least 6 divisions along the Soviet defense line south of Smolensk and there are known to be at least 8-10 Pz Korps in the region. Axis forces also massed Pz Korps on the south of the eastern part of the Dnepr, where they sat looking across at the Soviet defenders.
Leningrad still totally unthreatened. Soviet airforces managed to break through weak Luftwaffe units providing air cover to Pz Korps near Smolensk to inflict some interdiction casualties.
All in all a fairly quiet week and definately the lull before the storm that will undoubtebly be unleashed next week by the "bloody assassin of the workers".
Intelligence sources indicate that Axis top secret operational plans involve the 4th Rumanian farmer corps getting they winter barley sown before the bad weather hits.
End of news flash
Pravda News flash
Axis forces took Vitebsk this week forcing out the entrenched Soviet defenders. The Luftwaffe struck Soviet airbases in the north south and centre although although not as successfully as earlier in the campaign as there were virtually no operational planes left on the Russian front line.
Elsewhere in a show of strength the Germans lined up at least 6 divisions along the Soviet defense line south of Smolensk and there are known to be at least 8-10 Pz Korps in the region. Axis forces also massed Pz Korps on the south of the eastern part of the Dnepr, where they sat looking across at the Soviet defenders.
Leningrad still totally unthreatened. Soviet airforces managed to break through weak Luftwaffe units providing air cover to Pz Korps near Smolensk to inflict some interdiction casualties.
All in all a fairly quiet week and definately the lull before the storm that will undoubtebly be unleashed next week by the "bloody assassin of the workers".
Intelligence sources indicate that Axis top secret operational plans involve the 4th Rumanian farmer corps getting they winter barley sown before the bad weather hits.
End of news flash