"In CENPAC, 3rd Marine Div lands at Onotoa, Nikunau, and Beru and easily clears the islands of minimal defenders – a construction battalion, and two small naval guard units are destroyed. 3rd Marine Div, while suffering few troops lost, has about 1/3 of its troops disabled in the landings due to the lack of preparation"
Question: do you know if landing on a base that is not defended, that is no enemy troops in the hex, would still mean lots of disabled devices in the landing?
In my Japanese game I have tested that using small units, landing on non guarded dot bases, with zero preparation, is not too bad... I don't know if it will be the same for bigger LCUs
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RE: 3-4 Mar 43
ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury
"In CENPAC, 3rd Marine Div lands at Onotoa, Nikunau, and Beru and easily clears the islands of minimal defenders – a construction battalion, and two small naval guard units are destroyed. 3rd Marine Div, while suffering few troops lost, has about 1/3 of its troops disabled in the landings due to the lack of preparation"
Question: do you know if landing on a base that is not defended, that is no enemy troops in the hex, would still mean lots of disabled devices in the landing?
In my Japanese game I have tested that using small units, landing on non guarded dot bases, with zero preparation, is not too bad... I don't know if it will be the same for bigger LCUs
Dont dooo it... Just land a small force and capture the base and then have follow on forces.
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RE: 3-4 Mar 43
In my Japanese game I have tested that using small units, landing on non guarded dot bases, with zero preparation, is not too bad...
Was that before or after the invasion bonus expired?
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RE: 3-4 Mar 43
after the bonus
and I am talking "dot bases" assaulted by SNLF coys; it might be that the losses are faster to recover,
the one time I invaded, without knowing, a base with an enemy ART battalion guarding ended badly
and I am talking "dot bases" assaulted by SNLF coys; it might be that the losses are faster to recover,
the one time I invaded, without knowing, a base with an enemy ART battalion guarding ended badly
RE: 3-4 Mar 43
ORIGINAL: Wargmr
Dont dooo it... Just land a small force and capture the base and then have follow on forces.
too late......
5-6 Mar 43
5-6 Mar 43
Highlights – US sub finally hits a BB; BBs effective again against troops at Port Hedland fight
Jpn ships sunk:
DD: 1 (Amatsukaze – old?)
SS: 3 (I-177, RO-66, RO-103)
Allied ships sunk: None
Air loss:
Jpn: 26
Allied: 30
Subwar:
Jpn:1 Attack, 0 ships hit
Allies: 3 Attacks, 1 ship hit (BB Kongo dam); SS Sawfish dam by mine off Merak
Jpn Amph Inv: None
Allied Amph Inv: None
Bases lost: None
Bases Liberated: None
SIGINT/Intel: Recon unable to confirm KB at Koepang; location currently unknown.
West Coast/Admin: First two APs begin refit to APA at Sydney; will be a slow process to get them all converted and continue to maintain offensive operations.
In NOPAC, IJN sub I-171 misses CL Trentron with 4 torps off Buldir Island despite extensive ASW efforts.
In CENPAC, 3rd Marine Div begins the slow process of reboarding transpports at Onotoa, Nikunau, and Beru. US CVs hit Ocean Island port where a damaged sub has reportedly taken refuge. Pilots report sub hit and duly sunk in port, but intel can not confirm (in other words, combat report showed hit and sunk, but it didn’t come up on Tracker, so could have been synch bug or just FoW). CV TFs will begin to head back to Baker where ships due refit/upgrade in 4/43 will be detached for port. CV TFs will then return to sea in the Gilberts when the next Amph Inv TF returns – currently loading troops at Fanning Island for Abemama.
In SOPAC, two Marine SBD squadrons reach out over Shortlands and hit two APDs with 5 and 2 bombs respectively, as well as an xAKL at Vanguru with 2 bombs. None of the ships are claimed sunk, so perhaps synch bug, or FoW again. In any case, the SBDs were met over Shortlands by A6M5 Zeros, which shoot down 9. Corsairs out of Lunga, although set to range 5 max, get sucked into the furball and engage the Zeros at extended range – 5 Corsairs lost to 4 Zeros. Not good in the air in the Solomons this turn. My fault, had the SBDs to range out past my escorts. Will sweep upper Solomons with P-38s – with lots of shipping in and out of Lunga/Tulagi and the upcoming Rekata Bay landing, much concern for mass air attack that overwhelms CAP.
In SWPAC, IJN TF – at least one, perhaps two, enter the Gove hex, scatter some light shipping, but don’t engage or bombard. Apparently on the return leg back to Darwin, SS Herring puts two torps into BB Kongo 40m out of the port. No fires or secondary explosions reported, but L_S_T confirmed that Kongo was indeed hit. Figure she’ll be in Darwin a bit, then repairs elsewhere. Subs FINALLY got a capital ship! Will push a large convoy since the invasion (2DD, DMS, AP, xAP, 2AK) with 4DD escort carrying 2+ Eng Bns to Groote next turn. Groote expansion doing well, 15+k supply and AF and forts now at level 3 and climbing. Still not enough combat power to hold off a major IJN effort, but its getting better. Gove still sustaining and forts slowly increasing. Supplies there hovering around 1k.
In WAUS, Allied troops at Port Hedland again bombarded by BB TF (3BB, 3CA, 2CL) with good effect, this time in daylight for some reason. Bombardment occurred just prior to the 41st Div entering the hex, but the IJN TF apparently remained in the hex – which has now been mined by plane. All Allied troops now in the Port Hedland hex, and so far they are well supplied, although they are fatigued and disrupted. Troops hit by unescorted Sally raids for a change, and Allied LRCAP downed 12. Heavies hit Port Hedland AF with good effect, and will now switch to bombing the troops in the hex. LRCAP will continue out of Exmouth as well. Biggest threat remains the BB bombardment runs, which now have to pass through a gauntlet of both subs and mines. Maybe the Kongo getting hit off Darwin will give L_S_T pause in sending the BBs on the Port Hedland run. Doubt it, but maybe my sub drivers will get lucky. Or a mine will hit something (other than an Allied sub of course!).
In China, was surprised to see A6M5 Zeros for the first time! Over Lanchow no less. Glad to see the vaunted Lanchow Air Force made such an impact on Japanese deployments! Needless to say, the serviceable 3 planes of that “air force” were pulled back to Chungking. Chungking is now overstacked again, and with supplies already nonexistent, will pull more troops out to the SW. Probably need to pull the max down by 20k or so as destroyed Chinese Corps will continue to spawn in Chungking. Last thing I need is overstacking, and truthfully all these new units do is eat supply.
In India/Burma, a quiet turn as both sides air forces don’t engage. Recon shows only around 200 fighters at Magwe now, down about 1/3 or so from prior to the recent aerial carnage. P-38 convoy still a few days out of Cochin, so it will still be a while before I’m willing to re-engage the fight. US fighters almost back up to strength, but the Brit Hurricanes will take a bit more time. Pools for all fighters pretty much zeroed out once again.
Highlights – US sub finally hits a BB; BBs effective again against troops at Port Hedland fight
Jpn ships sunk:
DD: 1 (Amatsukaze – old?)
SS: 3 (I-177, RO-66, RO-103)
Allied ships sunk: None
Air loss:
Jpn: 26
Allied: 30
Subwar:
Jpn:1 Attack, 0 ships hit
Allies: 3 Attacks, 1 ship hit (BB Kongo dam); SS Sawfish dam by mine off Merak
Jpn Amph Inv: None
Allied Amph Inv: None
Bases lost: None
Bases Liberated: None
SIGINT/Intel: Recon unable to confirm KB at Koepang; location currently unknown.
West Coast/Admin: First two APs begin refit to APA at Sydney; will be a slow process to get them all converted and continue to maintain offensive operations.
In NOPAC, IJN sub I-171 misses CL Trentron with 4 torps off Buldir Island despite extensive ASW efforts.
In CENPAC, 3rd Marine Div begins the slow process of reboarding transpports at Onotoa, Nikunau, and Beru. US CVs hit Ocean Island port where a damaged sub has reportedly taken refuge. Pilots report sub hit and duly sunk in port, but intel can not confirm (in other words, combat report showed hit and sunk, but it didn’t come up on Tracker, so could have been synch bug or just FoW). CV TFs will begin to head back to Baker where ships due refit/upgrade in 4/43 will be detached for port. CV TFs will then return to sea in the Gilberts when the next Amph Inv TF returns – currently loading troops at Fanning Island for Abemama.
In SOPAC, two Marine SBD squadrons reach out over Shortlands and hit two APDs with 5 and 2 bombs respectively, as well as an xAKL at Vanguru with 2 bombs. None of the ships are claimed sunk, so perhaps synch bug, or FoW again. In any case, the SBDs were met over Shortlands by A6M5 Zeros, which shoot down 9. Corsairs out of Lunga, although set to range 5 max, get sucked into the furball and engage the Zeros at extended range – 5 Corsairs lost to 4 Zeros. Not good in the air in the Solomons this turn. My fault, had the SBDs to range out past my escorts. Will sweep upper Solomons with P-38s – with lots of shipping in and out of Lunga/Tulagi and the upcoming Rekata Bay landing, much concern for mass air attack that overwhelms CAP.
In SWPAC, IJN TF – at least one, perhaps two, enter the Gove hex, scatter some light shipping, but don’t engage or bombard. Apparently on the return leg back to Darwin, SS Herring puts two torps into BB Kongo 40m out of the port. No fires or secondary explosions reported, but L_S_T confirmed that Kongo was indeed hit. Figure she’ll be in Darwin a bit, then repairs elsewhere. Subs FINALLY got a capital ship! Will push a large convoy since the invasion (2DD, DMS, AP, xAP, 2AK) with 4DD escort carrying 2+ Eng Bns to Groote next turn. Groote expansion doing well, 15+k supply and AF and forts now at level 3 and climbing. Still not enough combat power to hold off a major IJN effort, but its getting better. Gove still sustaining and forts slowly increasing. Supplies there hovering around 1k.
In WAUS, Allied troops at Port Hedland again bombarded by BB TF (3BB, 3CA, 2CL) with good effect, this time in daylight for some reason. Bombardment occurred just prior to the 41st Div entering the hex, but the IJN TF apparently remained in the hex – which has now been mined by plane. All Allied troops now in the Port Hedland hex, and so far they are well supplied, although they are fatigued and disrupted. Troops hit by unescorted Sally raids for a change, and Allied LRCAP downed 12. Heavies hit Port Hedland AF with good effect, and will now switch to bombing the troops in the hex. LRCAP will continue out of Exmouth as well. Biggest threat remains the BB bombardment runs, which now have to pass through a gauntlet of both subs and mines. Maybe the Kongo getting hit off Darwin will give L_S_T pause in sending the BBs on the Port Hedland run. Doubt it, but maybe my sub drivers will get lucky. Or a mine will hit something (other than an Allied sub of course!).
In China, was surprised to see A6M5 Zeros for the first time! Over Lanchow no less. Glad to see the vaunted Lanchow Air Force made such an impact on Japanese deployments! Needless to say, the serviceable 3 planes of that “air force” were pulled back to Chungking. Chungking is now overstacked again, and with supplies already nonexistent, will pull more troops out to the SW. Probably need to pull the max down by 20k or so as destroyed Chinese Corps will continue to spawn in Chungking. Last thing I need is overstacking, and truthfully all these new units do is eat supply.
In India/Burma, a quiet turn as both sides air forces don’t engage. Recon shows only around 200 fighters at Magwe now, down about 1/3 or so from prior to the recent aerial carnage. P-38 convoy still a few days out of Cochin, so it will still be a while before I’m willing to re-engage the fight. US fighters almost back up to strength, but the Brit Hurricanes will take a bit more time. Pools for all fighters pretty much zeroed out once again.
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Highlights – US sub are on a roll – three fish into CV Hiyo off Port Hedland!
Jpn ships sunk:
BB: 1 (Kongo – its listed up on Tracker, so its here, but I highly, highly doubt it)
CL: 1 (Natori –old, thought to be Katori in Feb ‘42)
Jpn ships un-sunk:
CL: 1 (Katori – originally claimed sunk in Feb ’42, apparently it was the Natori)!
Allied ships sunk: None
Air loss:
Jpn: 87
Allied: 37
Subwar:
Jpn:0 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 2 Attacks, 1 ship hit (CV Hiyo)
Jpn Amph Inv: None
Allied Amph Inv: None
Bases lost: None
Bases Liberated: None
SIGINT/Intel: KB back to supporting the Port Hedland fight – as well as all the BBs!
West Coast/Admin: first new DE Evarts class arrives. Slow convoy departs LA for Auck.
In NOPAC, troops pre-positioned on Buldir and Amchitka, once transports return to Dutch Harbor, will load for Attu amphib. Expect one well dug in SNLF unit defending.
In CENPAC, 3rd Marine Div continues to laboriously re-load its troops. This was not a good idea. Too many disabled squads. That said, wasn’t planning on re-using the 3rd Marines for a bit, and I’d rather learn the lesson of never invade an atoll without 50% prep – regardless of the overwhelming odds – now when it doesn’t cost me much. Bde from 25th ID completes loading at Fanning for Abemama landing – its fully prepped, and will depart next turn. Abemama will be built up to a fwd airfield. CA TF (2CA, 2CL, DDs) bombard Nonouti just north of Tabit with good effect – about 3k troops there. Do not intend to invade, just cause casualties and “recon by fire”.
In SOPAC, fairly quiet. Rekata Bay Amph TF arrives at Tulagi and will head to Rekata Bay next turn – Rekata looks to be abandoned, but will continue with the landing to establish a fwd airfield as the next jump in the Solomons. Fighting continues at Tassafaronga.
In SWPAC, IJN CA TF (2CA, 3CL, DDs) bombard Gove with minimal effect, but no challenge to the TF unloading engineer units at Groote. In the air, unescorted Sally and Betty raids at Gove get pounced by wondering P-38 cap from Groote with good effect – 33 Sally and 8 Bettys downed for no loss, and minimal effect on the ground. For now, I’m good with L_S_T focusing on Gove while Groote builds up. Will shift to re-focusing on Gove once Groote gets a bit stronger and some additional air is avail. In the mean time, still hoping for an IJN TF getting tied up and staying in airstrike range on a run from Gove.
In WAUS, KB is re-located the hard way, but with good success. SS Shark puts three torps into CV Hiyo just off Port Hedland on the second day - the first news of the KB being at sea again. Despite secondary explosions, Hiyo doesn’t sink, and probably made it to Broome. On the down side, L_S_T is still putting a full court press to keep Port Hedland – another heavy BB bombardment (2BB, 3CA, 2CL) does heavy damage to the newly arrived 41st Div in the Port Hedland hex – as well as destroying most of the accumulated supply. Also, the KB CAP catches the 2nd day of US Heavy Bomber raids on the ground troops defending Port Hedland, and the results weren’t good – 8 B-24s and 6 B-17s lost. The small amount of LRCAP out of Exmouth isn’t enough to hold back the KB CAP – or its ground attack strike, which fortunately didn’t do much. Will continue to have subs patrol, lay mines by air and send some LRCAP out of Exmouth, but not doing much more to support this attack – which, as long as the KB and the BBs continue to intervene, will not succeed in taking Port Hedland.
In China, NSTR.
In India/Burma, NSTR.
Highlights – US sub are on a roll – three fish into CV Hiyo off Port Hedland!
Jpn ships sunk:
BB: 1 (Kongo – its listed up on Tracker, so its here, but I highly, highly doubt it)
CL: 1 (Natori –old, thought to be Katori in Feb ‘42)
Jpn ships un-sunk:
CL: 1 (Katori – originally claimed sunk in Feb ’42, apparently it was the Natori)!
Allied ships sunk: None
Air loss:
Jpn: 87
Allied: 37
Subwar:
Jpn:0 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 2 Attacks, 1 ship hit (CV Hiyo)
Jpn Amph Inv: None
Allied Amph Inv: None
Bases lost: None
Bases Liberated: None
SIGINT/Intel: KB back to supporting the Port Hedland fight – as well as all the BBs!
West Coast/Admin: first new DE Evarts class arrives. Slow convoy departs LA for Auck.
In NOPAC, troops pre-positioned on Buldir and Amchitka, once transports return to Dutch Harbor, will load for Attu amphib. Expect one well dug in SNLF unit defending.
In CENPAC, 3rd Marine Div continues to laboriously re-load its troops. This was not a good idea. Too many disabled squads. That said, wasn’t planning on re-using the 3rd Marines for a bit, and I’d rather learn the lesson of never invade an atoll without 50% prep – regardless of the overwhelming odds – now when it doesn’t cost me much. Bde from 25th ID completes loading at Fanning for Abemama landing – its fully prepped, and will depart next turn. Abemama will be built up to a fwd airfield. CA TF (2CA, 2CL, DDs) bombard Nonouti just north of Tabit with good effect – about 3k troops there. Do not intend to invade, just cause casualties and “recon by fire”.
In SOPAC, fairly quiet. Rekata Bay Amph TF arrives at Tulagi and will head to Rekata Bay next turn – Rekata looks to be abandoned, but will continue with the landing to establish a fwd airfield as the next jump in the Solomons. Fighting continues at Tassafaronga.
In SWPAC, IJN CA TF (2CA, 3CL, DDs) bombard Gove with minimal effect, but no challenge to the TF unloading engineer units at Groote. In the air, unescorted Sally and Betty raids at Gove get pounced by wondering P-38 cap from Groote with good effect – 33 Sally and 8 Bettys downed for no loss, and minimal effect on the ground. For now, I’m good with L_S_T focusing on Gove while Groote builds up. Will shift to re-focusing on Gove once Groote gets a bit stronger and some additional air is avail. In the mean time, still hoping for an IJN TF getting tied up and staying in airstrike range on a run from Gove.
In WAUS, KB is re-located the hard way, but with good success. SS Shark puts three torps into CV Hiyo just off Port Hedland on the second day - the first news of the KB being at sea again. Despite secondary explosions, Hiyo doesn’t sink, and probably made it to Broome. On the down side, L_S_T is still putting a full court press to keep Port Hedland – another heavy BB bombardment (2BB, 3CA, 2CL) does heavy damage to the newly arrived 41st Div in the Port Hedland hex – as well as destroying most of the accumulated supply. Also, the KB CAP catches the 2nd day of US Heavy Bomber raids on the ground troops defending Port Hedland, and the results weren’t good – 8 B-24s and 6 B-17s lost. The small amount of LRCAP out of Exmouth isn’t enough to hold back the KB CAP – or its ground attack strike, which fortunately didn’t do much. Will continue to have subs patrol, lay mines by air and send some LRCAP out of Exmouth, but not doing much more to support this attack – which, as long as the KB and the BBs continue to intervene, will not succeed in taking Port Hedland.
In China, NSTR.
In India/Burma, NSTR.
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RE: 7-8 Mar 43
BANZAI!!!
what port level is Broome? you should send all your submarines to patrol it (inside port), and of course set some recon and port strike if you have assets within range
if he already reached Broome, he has most likely disembarked all the squadrons, so you won't be able to use the trick of checking air losses to confirm a CV is lost
Still, a crippled carrier in a vulnerable place is great news, I guess sooner than later he will need to run the gauntlet to Soerabaja
what port level is Broome? you should send all your submarines to patrol it (inside port), and of course set some recon and port strike if you have assets within range
if he already reached Broome, he has most likely disembarked all the squadrons, so you won't be able to use the trick of checking air losses to confirm a CV is lost
Still, a crippled carrier in a vulnerable place is great news, I guess sooner than later he will need to run the gauntlet to Soerabaja
RE: 7-8 Mar 43
Japanese ships in general and CVs in particular have difficulty dealing with both flood and fire at the same time. From that combat report I say 80% chance that Hiyo sinks within a day. Even if they stabilize the flooding the fires tend to have grown out of control and it just takes a day or so to burn up.
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RE: 7-8 Mar 43
Hard to believe Hiyo could survive after both fuel AND ammo explosions.
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RE: 7-8 Mar 43
Hard to believe Hiyo could survive after both fuel AND ammo explosions.
On the other hand, three out of six USN torpedo hits in March '43 is surprising as well.
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RE: 7-8 Mar 43
ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock
Hard to believe Hiyo could survive after both fuel AND ammo explosions.
On the other hand, three out of six USN torpedo hits in March '43 is surprising as well.
Yeah, surprised at both! But she is currently afloat, limping 1hex at a time to Broome. Amazing!
9-10 Mar 43
9-10 Mar 43
Highlights – US Amphib at Rekata Bay lands unopposed; Barge Busting off Burma!
Jpn ships sunk:
CV: 1 (Hiyo – like Kongo, listed in Tracker, but pretty sure she’s still afloat)
SS: 2 (I-171, I-37)
Jpn ships un-sunk:
BB: 1 (Haruna – on again, off again the sunk list….)
SS: 2 (I-162, I-178)
Allied ships sunk:
SS: 2 (KXVII, S-39 – one to air, one to surface forces, crippled previous turn)
Air loss:
Jpn: 17
Allied: 16
Subwar:
Jpn:0 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 5 Attacks, 1 ship hit (xAKL sunk)
Jpn Amph Inv: None
Allied Amph Inv:
Rekata Bay (SOPAC)
Bases lost: None
Bases Liberated:
Rekata Bay (SOPAC)
SIGINT/Intel: KB looks to have moved further off the Port Hedland coast; out of sight, but lots of carrier borne ASW a/c aloft.
West Coast/Admin: NSTR.
In NOPAC, Attu invasion prep continues. For the Navy, this will be a “low budget” operation. Only a single AP committed, the rest of the troop transports being xAPs, including some former Canadian coastal ferries. Warships are also going to be in short supply, a single CA, two old CLs and DDs. Airpower and ground power will be fairly robust, and I don’t think there will be an intervention by the IJN this time around.
In CENPAC, 3rd Marine Div looks to be finally finishing up reboarding transports back to Tabit. At Baker Is, the US fleet is doing some reconfiguring as the CV Wasp, BB Indiana, a CA, 3CL and escorting DDs will begin the trek to port to refit/upgrade in 4/43. Remaining elements of the fleet will sortie to support Abemama landings when the transports close on the staging area near Tabit.
In SOPAC, the landing at Rekata Bay is uneventful. 24th (Sep) IN Reg lands and secures the base without opposition. Transports will take another day to complete offloading a few remaining troops and supply, overwatched by LRCAP and a CA TF. Engineers will begin to be brought in by LSTs/APDs and landing craft from Tulagi next turn. Fighting looks to be moving to the mop us stage at Tassafaronga, with the Jpn force beginning suffer very heavy loss - 2400 to 5 US.
In SWPAC, Gove is again bombarded by a CA TF (2CA, 3CL, DDs) with very minimal effect (14 casualties), and the Groote reinforcement convoy finished offloading without incident – including no air raids. As the transports head back to Normanton, the overwatching 4 Fletcher DDs will sortie along the Gove coast next turn to seek out the IJN, and PTs from Merauke will take station at Gove – goal is to trip up the Tokyo Express cruiser bombardment run, allowing air to get a swing in again. Will continue to focus on Groote for a bit, before chancing a big push to Gove. Still a bit wary about the IJN Big Boys coming back and ruining my day.
In WAUS, KB pulls off the coast a bit out of sight, but her planes remain on ASW activity off Broome – assumed to be safeguarding the CV Hiyo slowwwlly moving to Broome one hex at a time. So far its working as two subs failed to get in for a shot. US Heavies focus on mining both Port Hedland and Broome. No IJN bombardment or air bombardment against Allied troops at Port Hedland for a change. There is hope!
In China, noose continues to tighten around Lanchow as fighting in the mountains near the base looks to be winding down and Chinese remnants are being slowly eliminated.
In India/Burma, its quiet on land. At sea, my small coastal CL TF (2CL, 3DD) raid from Akyab to Ramree Island against suspected barge traffic does very well catching a large barge convoy at Akyab and engage it both at Akyab and at Ramree (I’m assuming it’s the same convoy). In all some 24 barges are sunk with no Allied loss in both night time and daylight engagements.
Highlights – US Amphib at Rekata Bay lands unopposed; Barge Busting off Burma!
Jpn ships sunk:
CV: 1 (Hiyo – like Kongo, listed in Tracker, but pretty sure she’s still afloat)
SS: 2 (I-171, I-37)
Jpn ships un-sunk:
BB: 1 (Haruna – on again, off again the sunk list….)
SS: 2 (I-162, I-178)
Allied ships sunk:
SS: 2 (KXVII, S-39 – one to air, one to surface forces, crippled previous turn)
Air loss:
Jpn: 17
Allied: 16
Subwar:
Jpn:0 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 5 Attacks, 1 ship hit (xAKL sunk)
Jpn Amph Inv: None
Allied Amph Inv:
Rekata Bay (SOPAC)
Bases lost: None
Bases Liberated:
Rekata Bay (SOPAC)
SIGINT/Intel: KB looks to have moved further off the Port Hedland coast; out of sight, but lots of carrier borne ASW a/c aloft.
West Coast/Admin: NSTR.
In NOPAC, Attu invasion prep continues. For the Navy, this will be a “low budget” operation. Only a single AP committed, the rest of the troop transports being xAPs, including some former Canadian coastal ferries. Warships are also going to be in short supply, a single CA, two old CLs and DDs. Airpower and ground power will be fairly robust, and I don’t think there will be an intervention by the IJN this time around.
In CENPAC, 3rd Marine Div looks to be finally finishing up reboarding transports back to Tabit. At Baker Is, the US fleet is doing some reconfiguring as the CV Wasp, BB Indiana, a CA, 3CL and escorting DDs will begin the trek to port to refit/upgrade in 4/43. Remaining elements of the fleet will sortie to support Abemama landings when the transports close on the staging area near Tabit.
In SOPAC, the landing at Rekata Bay is uneventful. 24th (Sep) IN Reg lands and secures the base without opposition. Transports will take another day to complete offloading a few remaining troops and supply, overwatched by LRCAP and a CA TF. Engineers will begin to be brought in by LSTs/APDs and landing craft from Tulagi next turn. Fighting looks to be moving to the mop us stage at Tassafaronga, with the Jpn force beginning suffer very heavy loss - 2400 to 5 US.
In SWPAC, Gove is again bombarded by a CA TF (2CA, 3CL, DDs) with very minimal effect (14 casualties), and the Groote reinforcement convoy finished offloading without incident – including no air raids. As the transports head back to Normanton, the overwatching 4 Fletcher DDs will sortie along the Gove coast next turn to seek out the IJN, and PTs from Merauke will take station at Gove – goal is to trip up the Tokyo Express cruiser bombardment run, allowing air to get a swing in again. Will continue to focus on Groote for a bit, before chancing a big push to Gove. Still a bit wary about the IJN Big Boys coming back and ruining my day.
In WAUS, KB pulls off the coast a bit out of sight, but her planes remain on ASW activity off Broome – assumed to be safeguarding the CV Hiyo slowwwlly moving to Broome one hex at a time. So far its working as two subs failed to get in for a shot. US Heavies focus on mining both Port Hedland and Broome. No IJN bombardment or air bombardment against Allied troops at Port Hedland for a change. There is hope!
In China, noose continues to tighten around Lanchow as fighting in the mountains near the base looks to be winding down and Chinese remnants are being slowly eliminated.
In India/Burma, its quiet on land. At sea, my small coastal CL TF (2CL, 3DD) raid from Akyab to Ramree Island against suspected barge traffic does very well catching a large barge convoy at Akyab and engage it both at Akyab and at Ramree (I’m assuming it’s the same convoy). In all some 24 barges are sunk with no Allied loss in both night time and daylight engagements.
RE: 9-10 Mar 43
If the Hiyo does make it to Broome, do you have the assets for a strong air raid and/or port attack that would sink the ship with a death blow?
RE: 9-10 Mar 43
ORIGINAL: jwolf
If the Hiyo does make it to Broome, do you have the assets for a strong air raid and/or port attack that would sink the ship with a death blow?
Broome is at the limit of the P-38s - and there's over 100 fighters at Broome, so I'll try sending Heavies in at night and hope for a lucky hit. Best I can do for now if the mines and subs don't get lucky.
RE: 9-10 Mar 43
Rats! I don't suppose you have a chance to capture and use Port Hedland any time soon?
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RE: 9-10 Mar 43
You should recon it, that is for sure
then, I have noticed that by just attacking, you will be hindering any effort to fire fight/ reduce damage.
you should start night bombing as soon as you get recon confirmation
Also, remember that low level ports do not provide defenses, your submarines should be visiting too
then, I have noticed that by just attacking, you will be hindering any effort to fire fight/ reduce damage.
you should start night bombing as soon as you get recon confirmation
Also, remember that low level ports do not provide defenses, your submarines should be visiting too
RE: 9-10 Mar 43
ORIGINAL: jwolf
Rats! I don't suppose you have a chance to capture and use Port Hedland any time soon?
Not with the KB and BB fleet in full support of the Japanese defense....going to be a while.
RE: 9-10 Mar 43
ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury
then, I have noticed that by just attacking, you will be hindering any effort to fire fight/ reduce damage.
you should start night bombing as soon as you get recon confirmation
Didn't know that....good to know!
11-12 Mar 43
11-12 Mar 43
Highlights – Heavy air attacks off Rekata Bay achieve little; Inconclusive surface engagement off Gove
Jpn ships sunk:
DD: 1 (Suzakaze – old)
SS: 2 (I-32, I-178)
AGP: 1 (old)
xAKL: 1
SSX: 2
Jpn ships un-sunk:
SS: 1 (I-177)
Allied ships sunk:
PT: 1
Air loss:
Jpn: 54
Allied: 14
Subwar:
Jpn:0 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 5 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Jpn Amph Inv: None
Allied Amph Inv: None
Bases lost: None
Bases Liberated: None
SIGINT/Intel: No sign of the KB; BBs, while idle, seem to be in Broome?
West Coast/Admin: US 7th ID plus some artillery departs East Coast bound for India via Cape Town. The remaining squadrons of the 308th Bomb Group (minus planes) are also bought out and begin the journey to India.
In NOPAC, Attu amph TF begins loading at Dutch Harbor. Tempo of airstrikes against Attu increases as additional PV-1 squadrons and a TBF squadron arrive.
In CENPAC, 2/3 of 3rd Marine Div completes transit back to Tabit, remaining portion should close next turn.
In SOPAC, heavy escorted Val strikes on shipping off Rekata Bay. 25Z, 17V push through the mixed LRCAP of P-38s, P-39s, F4Fs and F4Us – maybe a dozen on station max. However, no hits are scored. Follow on strike of 34V come in w/o escort and are chewed up by LRCAP, and also miss targets. Tallys are impressive – 24V and 6Z in exchange for 3 F4F and a P-39. All troops offloaded, and most of the supply; transports will cease offloading and return to base. Covering CA TF will sortie to bombard Shortlands prior to withdrawing. Remaining troops and supply will be brought in by landing craft, shuttled from Tulagi. On the ground, fighting ends at Tassafaronga.
In SWPAC, the four Fletchers I sent in to Gove miss intercepting the IJN bombardment force at night – but manage to find the screening CL TF (CL, 3DD) the following day – in two combats which the US DDs came off decidedly second best. US gunnery was awful, scoring only two hits. Engagement was inconclusive though, one US will need yard work. Bottom line is the IJN’s experience still carries the day. The bombardment TF (2CA, 3CL, 7DDs) brushed aside PTs, sinking one, before bombarding with little effect.
In WAUS, night time raid by Heavies against Broome port reports a single hit on crippled CV Hiyo – which may, or may not, be enough to sink her – still showing reported heavy damage and fires. No IJN bombardment runs against the troops at Port Hedland is a positive, but the KB is still lurking out to sea as ASW a/c continue to harry subs.
In China, IJA troops enter the outskirts of Changsa.
In India/Burma, the P-38s arrive at Calcutta. Look to resume the air campaign shortly.
Highlights – Heavy air attacks off Rekata Bay achieve little; Inconclusive surface engagement off Gove
Jpn ships sunk:
DD: 1 (Suzakaze – old)
SS: 2 (I-32, I-178)
AGP: 1 (old)
xAKL: 1
SSX: 2
Jpn ships un-sunk:
SS: 1 (I-177)
Allied ships sunk:
PT: 1
Air loss:
Jpn: 54
Allied: 14
Subwar:
Jpn:0 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 5 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Jpn Amph Inv: None
Allied Amph Inv: None
Bases lost: None
Bases Liberated: None
SIGINT/Intel: No sign of the KB; BBs, while idle, seem to be in Broome?
West Coast/Admin: US 7th ID plus some artillery departs East Coast bound for India via Cape Town. The remaining squadrons of the 308th Bomb Group (minus planes) are also bought out and begin the journey to India.
In NOPAC, Attu amph TF begins loading at Dutch Harbor. Tempo of airstrikes against Attu increases as additional PV-1 squadrons and a TBF squadron arrive.
In CENPAC, 2/3 of 3rd Marine Div completes transit back to Tabit, remaining portion should close next turn.
In SOPAC, heavy escorted Val strikes on shipping off Rekata Bay. 25Z, 17V push through the mixed LRCAP of P-38s, P-39s, F4Fs and F4Us – maybe a dozen on station max. However, no hits are scored. Follow on strike of 34V come in w/o escort and are chewed up by LRCAP, and also miss targets. Tallys are impressive – 24V and 6Z in exchange for 3 F4F and a P-39. All troops offloaded, and most of the supply; transports will cease offloading and return to base. Covering CA TF will sortie to bombard Shortlands prior to withdrawing. Remaining troops and supply will be brought in by landing craft, shuttled from Tulagi. On the ground, fighting ends at Tassafaronga.
In SWPAC, the four Fletchers I sent in to Gove miss intercepting the IJN bombardment force at night – but manage to find the screening CL TF (CL, 3DD) the following day – in two combats which the US DDs came off decidedly second best. US gunnery was awful, scoring only two hits. Engagement was inconclusive though, one US will need yard work. Bottom line is the IJN’s experience still carries the day. The bombardment TF (2CA, 3CL, 7DDs) brushed aside PTs, sinking one, before bombarding with little effect.
In WAUS, night time raid by Heavies against Broome port reports a single hit on crippled CV Hiyo – which may, or may not, be enough to sink her – still showing reported heavy damage and fires. No IJN bombardment runs against the troops at Port Hedland is a positive, but the KB is still lurking out to sea as ASW a/c continue to harry subs.
In China, IJA troops enter the outskirts of Changsa.
In India/Burma, the P-38s arrive at Calcutta. Look to resume the air campaign shortly.
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