Rumble in the Southwest witpqs-A vs Andav-J 2011-11-29 to 2017-02-08

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Home Islands west.

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Home Islands east.

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Tokyo. Small Fires still!

[witpqs]

1945 April 16

The Empire captured:


The Allies captured:
Allied forces CAPTURE Weihsien !!!

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:


There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:
Busuanga

Imperial Naval Bombardments


Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding enemy troops at Zamboanga
Allied Ships Bombarding enemy troops at Zamboanga


Our subs are conducting secret activities.

Chungking is secured!

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Ground combat at Weihsien (95,46)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3468 troops, 3 guns, 645 vehicles, Assault Value = 361

Defending force 1102 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 39

Allied adjusted assault: 243

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 243 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Weihsien !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(-), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1608 casualties reported
Squads: 69 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 52 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
2/4th Armoured Regiment
192nd Tank Battalion
Provisionl Tank Brigade
2/6th Armoured Regiment
1st Army Tank Regiment

Defending units:
1st NCPC Route Brigade


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Ground combat at 91,39 (near Taiyuan)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6385 troops, 77 guns, 441 vehicles, Assault Value = 343

Defending force 758 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10

Allied adjusted assault: 232

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 232 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
599 casualties reported
Squads: 42 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 39 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
50th Tank Brigade
268th Motorised Brigade

Defending units:
3rd NCPC Infantry Brigade


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Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 75651 troops, 98 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 3343

Defending force 6352 troops, 26 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 8

Allied adjusted assault: 1932

Japanese adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 644 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
8622 casualties reported
Squads: 150 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 598 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 18 (18 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 3

Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
70th Chinese Corps
14th Chinese Corps
23rd Indian Division
63rd Chinese Corps
56th Chinese Corps
95th Chinese Corps
6th Australian Division
76th Chinese Corps
62nd Chinese Corps
91st Chinese Corps
32nd Chinese Corps
24th Chinese Corps
2nd Prov Chinese Corps
CCAHQ
China Command
25th Group Army
Z' Force
3rd War Area
CAF HQ
6th Mixed A/T Mtr Regiment
22nd Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
41st/C Division
23rd Army
64th Infantry Brigade
24th/B Division


41st/C Division Wiped Out at Chungking by attrition!!!
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One more day and the units for the next attack at Hangchow will be in place. Probably a week before the same is true at Hankow as several Chinese Army units march from Changsha. And now that Chungking is secured, Shanghai preparation is underway.

A few Fires are still burning in Tokyo.

China west.

[witpqs]

China east.

[witpqs]

Philippines.

[witpqs]

Home Islands west.

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Home Islands east.

[witpqs]

I've been working on the turn. Nothing momentous happened, but I need more time to create a mess of convoys and send them to pick up units for the Kochi invasion. Just going through and locating all the units involved for the upcoming invasions has taken some time and I'm going to finish the rest of the turn in small bites.

Here are the targets and units assigned, in order of execution. The two small invasions listed will come with or just after the prior listed larger invasion. I have not removed some assigned units that will not be making the assault landings, like Command HQ, etc.

Kochi
___41 AV . 3rd NZ Armoured Sqn (Armor)
___61 AV . 3rd Tank Regiment (Armor)
___54 AV . 5th USMC Tank Tank Battalion (Armor)
___53 AV . 6th USMC Tank Tank Battalion (Armor)
____0 AV . 145th Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 4th Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____9 AV . 52nd Marine Defense Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 85th Mortar Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 88th Mortar Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 97th Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 98th Mortar Battalion (Artillery)
___27 AV . 5th Pioneer Battalion (Engineer)
____0 AV . V US Amphib Force (HQ - Amphibious)
____0 AV . V Amphib Corps (HQ - Corps)
__370 AV . 25th Infantry Division (Infantry)
__419 AV . 2nd Marine Division (Infantry)
__375 AV . 37th Infantry Division (Infantry)
__372 AV . 40th Infantry Division (Infantry)
__371 AV . 43rd Infantry Division (Infantry)
__386 AV . 77th Infantry Division (Infantry)
_2538 AV Total

Tokara Retto
___65 AV . 713th Flame Tank Tank Battalion (Armor)
__372 AV . 33rd Infantry Division (Infantry)
__437 AV Total

Kumamoto
___73 AV . 193rd Tank Tank Battalion (Armor)
___76 AV . 194th Tank Tank Battalion (Armor)
___53 AV . 1st USMC Tank Tank Battalion (Armor)
___52 AV . 2nd USMC Tank Tank Battalion (Armor)
___48 AV . 670th Tank Destroyer Battalion (Armor)
___69 AV . 710th Tank Tank Battalion (Armor)
___63 AV . 716th Tank Tank Battalion (Armor)
___71 AV . 754th Tank Tank Battalion (Armor)
___57 AV . 766th Tank Tank Battalion (Armor)
___61 AV . 767th Tank Tank Battalion (Armor)
____0 AV . 10th USMC Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 11th USMC Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 223rd Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 226th Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 4th USMC Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 7th USMC Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 82nd Mortar Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . Sixth US Army (HQ - Army)
____0 AV . Pacific Ocean Areas (HQ - Command)
____0 AV . XIV US Corps (HQ - Corps)
__372 AV . 24th Infantry Division (Infantry)
__378 AV . 38th Infantry Division (Infantry)
__371 AV . 41st Infantry Division (Infantry)
__423 AV . 5th Marine Division (Infantry)
__377 AV . 6th Infantry Division (Infantry)
_2544 AV Total

Saishu To
__281 AV . 11th Airborne Division (Parachute)
___88 AV . 503rd Parachute Regiment (Parachute)
__369 AV Total

Tsu
__237 AV . 19th Motorised Tank Division (Armor)
____0 AV . 1st Indian Medium Regiment (Artillery)
____0 AV . 55th Heavy Regiment (Artillery)
____0 AV . 56th Heavy Regiment (Artillery)
____0 AV . 86th Medium Regiment (Artillery)
____0 AV . 88th Medium Regiment (Artillery)
____0 AV . 8th Belfast Heavy Regiment (Artillery)
____0 AV . 14th Army (HQ - Command)
__361 AV . 14th Indian Division (Infantry)
__427 AV . 18th British Division (Infantry)
__410 AV . 20th Indian Division (Infantry)
__414 AV . 25th Indian Division (Infantry)
__352 AV . 26th Indian Division (Infantry)
__427 AV . 2nd British Division (Infantry)
__436 AV . 5th Indian Division (Infantry)
__376 AV . 82nd (West African) Division (Infantry)
_3440 AV Total

Hachinohe
____0 AV . 18th Marine AA Battalion (AA)
____0 AV . 1st USMC AA Battalion (AA)
___36 AV . 1st Arm Amphib Tank Battalion (Armor)
___36 AV . 2nd Arm Amphib Tank Battalion (Armor)
___51 AV . 3rd USMC Tank Tank Battalion (Armor)
___71 AV . 44th Tank Tank Battalion (Armor)
___45 AV . 4th USMC Tank Tank Battalion (Armor)
____0 AV . 12th USMC Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 168th Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 181st Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 3rd USMC Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 531st Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 543rd Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 545th Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 5th USMC Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 655th Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 668th Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 669th Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 6th USMC Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 749th Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 750th Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 9th Marine Defense Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 9th USMC Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
__332 AV . 1st (Spec) Cavalry Division (Cavalry)
____0 AV . 43rd Base Group (Engineer)
____0 AV . III Amphib Corps (HQ - Corps)
____0 AV . IX US Corps (HQ - Corps)
____0 AV . XI US Corps (HQ - Corps)
__422 AV . 1st Marine Division (Infantry)
__372 AV . 27th Infantry Division (Infantry)
__419 AV . 3rd Marine Division (Infantry)
__426 AV . 4th Marine Division (Infantry)
__415 AV . 6th Marine Division (Infantry)
__374 AV . 93rd Infantry Division (Infantry)
__370 AV . Americal Infantry Division (Infantry)
_3369 AV Total

Akita
___71 AV . 762nd Tank Tank Battalion (Armor)
___70 AV . 763rd Tank Tank Battalion (Armor)
____0 AV . 198th Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 225th Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 249th Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
____0 AV . 33rd Medium Regiment (Artillery)
____0 AV . 532nd Field Artillery Battalion (Artillery)
__372 AV . 11th Australian Division (Infantry)
__372 AV . 3rd Australian Division (Infantry)
__370 AV . 7th Infantry Division (Infantry)
__376 AV . 98th Infantry Division (Infantry)
_1631 AV Total

[CaptBeefheart]

This is going to be fun.

What are your engineering amphibious brigades up to?

I like the all-para invasion of Saishu To (i.e. Jeju-do). You probably have experienced an amphib invasion getting shredded by the CD guns there. EDIT: I certainly have.

Cheers,
CC

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Commander Cody

This is going to be fun.

What are your engineering amphibious brigades up to?

I like the all-para invasion of Saishu To (i.e. Jeju-do). You probably have experienced an amphib invasion getting shredded by the CD guns there. EDIT: I certainly have.

Cheers,
CC

Oh - I've assigned the paras but was planning to land them to lighten the casualties. But maybe casualties would be lighter in an air drop??

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

I've been working on the turn. Nothing momentous happened, but I need more time to create a mess of convoys and send them to pick up units for the Kochi invasion. Just going through and locating all the units involved for the upcoming invasions has taken some time and I'm going to finish the rest of the turn in small bites.

Here are the targets and units assigned, in order of execution. The two small invasions listed will come with or just after the prior listed larger invasion. I have not removed some assigned units that will not be making the assault landings, like Command HQ, etc.

That is quite a list of forces!!!

I look forward to it! [8D]

[Rafid]

Do you have an estimation what these forces will encounter at each location?

Also looking forward to it...[8D]
...though since you are collecting the forces at the moment and the game pace is rather slow -> it'll be a christmas present more likely.

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: Commander Cody

What are your engineering amphibious brigades up to?

EAB = Engineer Aviation Battalion. They have no special amphibious qualities.

[witpqs]

I think Rafid is pointing out that I need to assign some more Shore Party equipped units to some of the landings. He's right!

[Macclan5]

.. and Combat Engineer Battalions as well?

A glance through the list did not seem to suggest any are embedded in the landings...

I presume despite the shaky state of the Empire currently ~ Japan has been building fortifications in many likely landings spots since the landings at Okinawa.

You may of course be able to reduce them without ...but ... saving time and electron lives so to speak.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Macclan5

.. and Combat Engineer Battalions as well?

A glance through the list did not seem to suggest any are embedded in the landings...

I presume despite the shaky state of the Empire currently ~ Japan has been building fortifications in many likely landings spots since the landings at Okinawa.

You may of course be able to reduce them without ...but ... saving time and electron lives so to speak.

Ah, yes! I plan to mostly rely on the now substantial numbers of embedded combat engineers in the Allied divisions. Some of the dedicated combat engineer units are not allocated, but a number are doing things in China. They will be freed up in coming weeks as more and more Chinese Army units make the rail head at Tuyun and catch up to the front and near the front for garrison duties. Plus of course, further offensive actions, such as liberating Shanghai.

[CaptBeefheart]

Engineering amphibious brigades (or amphibian brigades?) are the ones with 200 naval support. You usually get four of them by September 1944. They are great for massive invasions as they help unload stuff quickly. Possibly your scenario doesn't have them. EDIT: Regardless, having naval support and/or shore parties (in DBB scenarios) in your invasions will help a lot.

Regarding the invasion of Saishu To, it might be good to fire up a Downfall scenario to see what works. In Downfall, the garrison is light on infantry if I'm not mistaken, and since mines and CDs are present in strength, an airborne invasion may be the least costly way to do it (provided he hasn't reinforced with infantry).

Cheers,
CC

[BBfanboy]

I haven't been doing amphib ops in late 1944 in many years, so either I forgot about those brigades or my scenario never had them. The Marianas scenario has units like "Amphibious Trucks" and some others that are all naval support but not brigade sized ones.
Thanks for pointing them out - always good to (re)learn something about the OOB!

[witpqs]

Thanks. Generally the units with large naval support I have working at offload facilities and repair facilities. I probably do have the units (or variants of them) that you mention. I'll have to look, but I likely won't use them in an assault landing.

Interesting about Saishu To. I probably will make it an air drop. With the game date plus the cessation of an airlift into China I certainly have a sky full of transport planes available.