Another World : AAR Soviet Stelteck Vs German Pelton (No Pelton Zone)

[EwaldvonKleist]

Why do you have such a strong river line defense west of Yaroslavl Stelteck? One stack has defensive CV of 35, and a major river triples it as far as I know. Is a push east in this direction really that dangerous/likely? (noob question, no critcism!).

[Stelteck]

ORIGINAL: EwaldvonKleist

Why do you have such a strong river line defense west of Yaroslavl Stelteck? One stack has defensive CV of 35, and a major river triples it as far as I know. Is a push east in this direction really that dangerous/likely? (noob question, no critcism!).

No problem i'am always happy to answer questions, even critics if you want. I hardly ever rage on forum. (Until today at least).

I agree that the line of defense west Yaroslav near the large river is probably a little overkill.

But it is just today. Last turn the level 2 fortifications were not here and the line was weaker.
I prefer also to dig as fast as possible, so 3 divisions dig better than one.
Once level 2 fortification is here, i can (and i will) remove troops and send them to another area.

I also try to make the side stronger than the center, because it is better to have the line cut in the center than in the side. The risk of encerclement is lower. It was true for north and south of moscow.

Last point, germans troops managed to cut the line though heavy defense. My line was not weak. The fact that the line was breached is more a testimony of german superior forces.

[Stelteck]

ORIGINAL: chaos45
Armaments and manpower are both critical. To build up the ToE of your late mid and LW units you will need armaments.
If you lose moscow esp with alot of its factories its probably game over esp since you are losing Rostov as well in 1941.

OK i aggree with you, so challenge accepted : Hold moscow at all cost or die trying.

[Stelteck]

End of my turn : Moscow or bust !!!



The german division close to moscow is routed. with light casualties.... Maybe the fighting withdrawal thing come a bit too far.... [:'(]
Having a fighting withdrawal when a unit is routed is strange.

[timmyab]

ORIGINAL: Stelteck
The german division close to moscow is routed. with light casualties.... Maybe the fighting withdrawal thing come a bit too far.... [:'(]
Having a fighting withdrawal when a unit is routed is strange.

Yes I agree. Being routed due to having no path of retreat should be a costly business even for veteran/elite units.

[Stelteck]

Anyone know what is the meaning of the following symbol (-) next to the division name ?

[M60A3TTS]

(-) means it's an understrength division.

[Stelteck]

Turn 14 : 19 september 1941 :

The battle for moscow rage on !!!

Defense end of turn 13 before german turn :


Situation beginning of turn 14 :


Ennemy advance south have stalled, as i routed the german division that reached moscow and put in front a moscow a wall of units.
So the ennemy have to try to found a way east.

But for north, ennemy troops grind their way toward moscow. Renforcement incoming and maybe some counter attack in advance ennemy position if i manage to get enough troops !!! I miss the +1 soviet attack bonus very much [:'(]

[Stelteck]

Norwest, Western, Reserve, Southwest and bryanks front are defending moscow right now.
Nearly 3 millions men are fighting over moscow in the soviet army !!

[Dinglir]

Is Pelton advancing in the south or is he content to go no further this year?

[Stelteck]

He stops advancing south.

But there is an army approching voronev without panzers.
I still hold crimea with 9 divisions too.

[Stelteck]

Turn 15 : 25 september 1941 :

No rain so far. I need rain !!! Please all sing with me.

Heavy fighting occured north of moscow but soviet resistance is very heavy !!

My tactics groupings the best troops in special armies with the best generals is working quite good, as it provide me each turn some limited counterattack options on the tired german spear.

I pushed back 2 divisions last turn. Plan to try one this turn.



South of moscow, the ennemy try to move around my defenses



Southern, ennemy germany reached voronev where i try to built some resistances. But i still need most of troops at moscow.



South of rostov, situation is calm.
One question for the experienced : I have no idea why i cannot move my troops out there by sea. It was possible some times ago. Not anymore. I do not know what is the problem.

[M60A3TTS]

I believe the presence of the German unit west of Taganrog is blocking the unit from passing through the bay.

[sillyflower]

Seems a bit odd but I can't see any other explanation: assuming you have enough sea transport capacity

[Bozo_the_Clown]

I believe the presence of the German unit west of Taganrog is blocking the unit from passing through the bay.

The units next to the port have nothing to do with it. Are you sure you have naval transport selected (F3)?

[STEF78]

ORIGINAL: Bozo_the_Clown

I believe the presence of the German unit west of Taganrog is blocking the unit from passing through the bay.

The units next to the port have nothing to do with it. Are you sure you have naval transport selected (F3)?

Sorry Bozo, it's the ZOC of this units which is blocking the path.

I already had this case (port of Azov) in my game against Beekeeeper

[Stelteck]

Thanks for the information.

[Bozo_the_Clown]

Sorry Bozo, it's the ZOC of this units which is blocking the path.

I already had this case (port of Azov) in my game against Beekeeeper

But I tested it. Look at the screenshot. Am I missing something?

[Stelteck]

So i have no idea why i cannot move my troops.
I have issue to check if i have enough naval transport capability. Do you know where it is displayed ?

I finished my turn 15.

Despite unfavored options, i still manage to perform one or two successfull counter attack per turn.



Because number is a quality, and good leader is very good to boost CV. (Like this one (who have a great future destiny as leader of stavka), who managed to multiply my CV by *2.5).

Another point is that my ennemy do not bother with air covert during its turn, so i have free bombing run.
Last 2 turns i performed like twenty bombing runs on ennemy airfield, destroying a total of 100 luftwaffe planes a turn on ground. I lost 100 planes from ennemy flak, but who care. [:'(]
I also bomb armored spearhead with probably symbolic looses.

I notice also (as a test) that i can put ennemy division ammo supply in red with 2 suicide attack of spare divisions, at the cost of around 1000/2000 men.
I know the german have issue to ressuply with ammo the spearhead north, because they used 150 Junker 52 to carry supply to an airfield in the spearhead.
But i do not know if it could be an efficient strategy.

[sillyflower]

ORIGINAL: Stelteck

So i have no idea why i cannot move my troops.
I have issue to check if i have enough naval transport capability. Do you know where it is displayed ?

mouse over a sea hex in that area and it will appear at the bottom of the info box for that hex. Then you need to select naval transport icon or press F3. NB capacity works same way as with RR so you may not be able to sail out whole stack.