Battle of South sea - MrKane(A) vs DmitryZ(J)
Moderators: wdolson, MOD_War-in-the-Pacific-Admirals-Edition
RE: Battle of Narbada River - MrKane(A) vs DmitryZ(J)
Not counting the floatplane carrier, the Ryujo has the biggest CVL airgroup it is also the most vulnerable. I agree with your assessment unless he lands and takes Tahiti, destroying the units present. Hence the mentioning of him turning it into a victory, if he does not then the Japanese will be the clear loser in this series of naval engagements.
RE: Battle of Narbada River - MrKane(A) vs DmitryZ(J)
one more week in India.
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RE: Battle of Narbada River - MrKane(A) vs DmitryZ(J)
Once again the old wisdom applies:
"Never get into a land war in Asia". Your opponent was doing well until he overextended there.
"Never get into a land war in Asia". Your opponent was doing well until he overextended there.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: Battle of Narbada River - MrKane(A) vs DmitryZ(J)
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Once again the old wisdom applies:
"Never get into a land war in Asia". Your opponent was doing well until he overextended there.
I will not agree with this statement. His problem is rather lack experience to play against human. He was constantly push forward without protecting his flanks. However I have noticed he already learn this lesson and he is match better right now.
RE: Battle of Narbada River - MrKane(A) vs DmitryZ(J)
Fail of NZ invasion. Well it seems he knew about my invasion, his carriers where waiting, airfields full of planes and a lot of sub where waiting too.
I was fallow by horde of subs from day one. British light carrier was sunk by sub 2 days before landing, next day huge air strike damage 2 British BB and sunk 1 AP. At this point I have already understand that I will not be able to support, by navy and air, my marines on ground, so I have turn fleet back. My carriers were spot by several torpedo bombers 2 days later. My conclusion was that his fleet is just out of range of my planes and it must be at north on me. As result I decided send fleet north to save transports. Her are results of this move:
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Raoul Island at 133,194
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid detected at 118 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 50 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 46
B5N2 Kate x 33
D3A1 Val x 61
Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 10
F4F-4 Wildcat x 57
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 6 destroyed, 6 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 13 destroyed, 19 damaged
D3A1 Val: 3 destroyed by flak
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed
Allied Ships
CV Lexington, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB Idaho
BB Prince of Wales, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1
CA Quincy
BB Mississippi, Bomb hits 1
CV Illustrious
BC Repulse
DD Jarvis
DD Sterett
BB New Mexico
BB North Carolina
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
6 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
9 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
CAP engaged:
VF-6 with F4F-4 Wildcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(16 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-8 with F4F-4 Wildcat (12 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(20 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-2 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
14 planes vectored on to bombers
No.881 Sqn FAA with Martlet II (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
Ammo storage explosion on CV Lexington
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring a Yorktown class CV
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Gisborne at 130,191
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 56 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 14
SBD-3 Dauntless x 34
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Martlet II: 2 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 5 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 10 destroyed, 12 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak
Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
CL Tatsuta
CV Zuikaku
CV Soryu, Bomb hits 1, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
9 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
CAP engaged:
Soryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
Ammo storage explosion on CV Soryu
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Soryu
Fuel storage explosion on CV Hiryu
Fuel storage explosion on CV Hiryu
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Hiryu
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Gisborne at 130,191
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 57 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 24
SBD-2 Dauntless x 14
SBD-3 Dauntless x 34
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
SBD-2 Dauntless: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged
Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu, heavy fires
CV Zuikaku
CV Soryu, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DD Shirakumo, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Yukaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Tatsuta
DD Yukikaze, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
14 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
9 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
CAP engaged:
Soryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Hiryu
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Soryu
Fuel storage explosion on CV Soryu
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Gisborne at 130,191
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
Allied aircraft
SBD-2 Dauntless x 11
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
SBD-2 Dauntless: 5 damaged
SBD-2 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak
Japanese Ships
CV Soryu, heavy fires
DD Kuri
DD Sawakaze
CV Zuikaku
DD Yukikaze, and is sunk
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
2 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
CAP engaged:
Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 66 minutes
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Soryu
Lexi is disabled but in good shape generally ( 10 sys, 20 fld, 3 eng dmg), I decided continue engagement and now I am waiting for result.
I was fallow by horde of subs from day one. British light carrier was sunk by sub 2 days before landing, next day huge air strike damage 2 British BB and sunk 1 AP. At this point I have already understand that I will not be able to support, by navy and air, my marines on ground, so I have turn fleet back. My carriers were spot by several torpedo bombers 2 days later. My conclusion was that his fleet is just out of range of my planes and it must be at north on me. As result I decided send fleet north to save transports. Her are results of this move:
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Raoul Island at 133,194
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid detected at 118 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 50 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 46
B5N2 Kate x 33
D3A1 Val x 61
Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 10
F4F-4 Wildcat x 57
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 6 destroyed, 6 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 13 destroyed, 19 damaged
D3A1 Val: 3 destroyed by flak
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed
Allied Ships
CV Lexington, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB Idaho
BB Prince of Wales, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1
CA Quincy
BB Mississippi, Bomb hits 1
CV Illustrious
BC Repulse
DD Jarvis
DD Sterett
BB New Mexico
BB North Carolina
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
6 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
9 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
CAP engaged:
VF-6 with F4F-4 Wildcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(16 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-8 with F4F-4 Wildcat (12 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(20 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-2 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
14 planes vectored on to bombers
No.881 Sqn FAA with Martlet II (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
Ammo storage explosion on CV Lexington
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring a Yorktown class CV
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Gisborne at 130,191
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 56 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 14
SBD-3 Dauntless x 34
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Martlet II: 2 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 5 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 10 destroyed, 12 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak
Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
CL Tatsuta
CV Zuikaku
CV Soryu, Bomb hits 1, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
9 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
CAP engaged:
Soryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
Ammo storage explosion on CV Soryu
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Soryu
Fuel storage explosion on CV Hiryu
Fuel storage explosion on CV Hiryu
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Hiryu
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Gisborne at 130,191
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 57 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 24
SBD-2 Dauntless x 14
SBD-3 Dauntless x 34
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
SBD-2 Dauntless: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged
Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu, heavy fires
CV Zuikaku
CV Soryu, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DD Shirakumo, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Yukaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Tatsuta
DD Yukikaze, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
14 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
9 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
CAP engaged:
Soryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Hiryu
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Soryu
Fuel storage explosion on CV Soryu
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Gisborne at 130,191
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
Allied aircraft
SBD-2 Dauntless x 11
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
SBD-2 Dauntless: 5 damaged
SBD-2 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak
Japanese Ships
CV Soryu, heavy fires
DD Kuri
DD Sawakaze
CV Zuikaku
DD Yukikaze, and is sunk
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
2 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
CAP engaged:
Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 66 minutes
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Soryu
Lexi is disabled but in good shape generally ( 10 sys, 20 fld, 3 eng dmg), I decided continue engagement and now I am waiting for result.
RE: Battle of Narbada River - MrKane(A) vs DmitryZ(J)
2 more CV's gone for IJ ... he is in bad shape ...
he let his CV get out from LBA protection and he had no BB's with his CV's to soak up bomb hits ... ouch.
he let his CV get out from LBA protection and he had no BB's with his CV's to soak up bomb hits ... ouch.
Pax
RE: Battle of Narbada River - MrKane(A) vs DmitryZ(J)
Nice comeback! You got lucky with the Ammo Storage Explosion on Soryu and two Fuel Storage Explosions on Hiryu, but your boldness made it possible. Well done!
I agree with keeping Lexington in the battle and trying to continue the battle.
I agree with keeping Lexington in the battle and trying to continue the battle.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: Battle of Narbada River - MrKane(A) vs DmitryZ(J)
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
2 more CV's gone for IJ ... he is in bad shape ...
he let his CV get out from LBA protection and he had no BB's with his CV's to soak up bomb hits ... ouch.
His BB were 2 hex east from Carriers position. Next turn he send them against my carriers, however I have foreseen this move and my forces moved north with way-point east of his battleships. However bad weather did not allow me to send planes against them
.RE: Battle of Narbada River - MrKane(A) vs DmitryZ(J)
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RE: Battle of Narbada River - MrKane(A) vs DmitryZ(J)
Victory !!!
Battle of Narbada River has came to end. Most of 21st Army units are gone, other are retreating south.
Those units: 2nd Raiding Regiment, Yokosuka 3rd SNLF, 1st Raiding Regiment, 1st Yokosuka 1st SNLF, 38th Division, 5th Amphibious Brigade are crossing Narbada river right now. If my 3 weak Indian Division will hold position on other south blank of river they will be cut off too.
16th IJA Division is encircled by 2nd NZ Div on west side of the river and are falling apart fast. My Armoured units are attacking Ranch far into south.
Here is list of IJA destroyed units:
- Guards Tank Division
- 6th Guards Division
- 4th Guards Division
- 1st Art.Mortar Regiment
- 21st Army HQ
- 148th Infantry Regiment
- 41st Infantry Regiment
- 3rd Indpt SNLF Coy
- 4th Division
- 4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
Additionally Japan has lot over 600-700 planes for cost of 60-100 allies planes.
Battle of Narbada River has came to end. Most of 21st Army units are gone, other are retreating south.
Those units: 2nd Raiding Regiment, Yokosuka 3rd SNLF, 1st Raiding Regiment, 1st Yokosuka 1st SNLF, 38th Division, 5th Amphibious Brigade are crossing Narbada river right now. If my 3 weak Indian Division will hold position on other south blank of river they will be cut off too.
16th IJA Division is encircled by 2nd NZ Div on west side of the river and are falling apart fast. My Armoured units are attacking Ranch far into south.
Here is list of IJA destroyed units:
- Guards Tank Division
- 6th Guards Division
- 4th Guards Division
- 1st Art.Mortar Regiment
- 21st Army HQ
- 148th Infantry Regiment
- 41st Infantry Regiment
- 3rd Indpt SNLF Coy
- 4th Division
- 4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
Additionally Japan has lot over 600-700 planes for cost of 60-100 allies planes.
RE: Battle of Narbada River - MrKane(A) vs DmitryZ(J)
Ouch. Tried to take too much with too little ... great job!!![&o][&o][&o]
Pax
RE: Battle of Narbada River - MrKane(A) vs DmitryZ(J)
So interesting. He doesn't look good in the South with those damaged CVs burning out off the coast of NZ. Even with the losses, you've taken the hits, countered, and turned the tide on both the sea and on land.
Now will he run out of steam and give up, demoralised, or fight on to turn this into an epic match? [:)]
Now will he run out of steam and give up, demoralised, or fight on to turn this into an epic match? [:)]
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill
RE: Battle of Narbada River - MrKane(A) vs DmitryZ(J)
ORIGINAL: obvert
So interesting. He doesn't look good in the South with those damaged CVs burning out off the coast of NZ. Even with the losses, you've taken the hits, countered, and turned the tide on both the sea and on land.
Now will he run out of steam and give up, demoralised, or fight on to turn this into an epic match? [:)]
He was very aggressive in his moments till now, now this behaving works against him. India disaster for him was mostly provoke by his aggressive advance using shock attack without carrying about flanks. If he continue playing this way game will be short. Just by counting his LCUs in India and on NZ I am sure that Japan is completely undefended.
RE: Battle of Narbada River - MrKane(A) vs DmitryZ(J)
India Situation 24th Sep - 27th Oct 1942
XXI Indian Corp has captured Surat and it is advancing towards Bombay by coast line.
IV Indian Corp is holding positions.
III Indian Corp has forced to surrender IJA 16th Division and it is moving against Japanese garrison in Nagpur.
XXIV Indian Corp has shattered Japanese 2nd Tank Division and 18th Inf. Division in Benares and next managed to cut off 2nd IJA Army(18th Div, 21st Div, 7th Div, 2nd Tank Div, 5th Grd Div, 6th SNLF, 2nd SNLF and army HQ) in Patana. The 2nd Army is suffering huge loses in this city right now and it seems to me that it will be annihilated in less than week.
If I manage to accomplice this goal it will be huge allies victory. It will mean complete destructions of 2 Japanese Armies, including 10 divisions(2 tank div) and several battalion size units.
XXI Indian Corp has captured Surat and it is advancing towards Bombay by coast line.
IV Indian Corp is holding positions.
III Indian Corp has forced to surrender IJA 16th Division and it is moving against Japanese garrison in Nagpur.
XXIV Indian Corp has shattered Japanese 2nd Tank Division and 18th Inf. Division in Benares and next managed to cut off 2nd IJA Army(18th Div, 21st Div, 7th Div, 2nd Tank Div, 5th Grd Div, 6th SNLF, 2nd SNLF and army HQ) in Patana. The 2nd Army is suffering huge loses in this city right now and it seems to me that it will be annihilated in less than week.
If I manage to accomplice this goal it will be huge allies victory. It will mean complete destructions of 2 Japanese Armies, including 10 divisions(2 tank div) and several battalion size units.
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RE: Battle of Narbada River - MrKane(A) vs DmitryZ(J)
ORIGINAL: MrKane
India Situation 24th Sep - 27th Oct 1942
XXI Indian Corp has captured Surat and it is advancing towards Bombay by coast line.
IV Indian Corp is holding positions.
III Indian Corp has forced to surrender IJA 16th Division and it is moving against Japanese garrison in Nagpur.
XXIV Indian Corp has shattered Japanese 2nd Tank Division and 18th Inf. Division in Benares and next managed to cut off 2nd IJA Army(18th Div, 21st Div, 7th Div, 2nd Tank Div, 5th Grd Div, 6th SNLF, 2nd SNLF and army HQ) in Patana. The 2nd Army is suffering huge loses in this city right now and it seems to me that it will be annihilated in less than week.
If I manage to accomplice this goal it will be huge allies victory. It will mean complete destructions of 2 Japanese Armies, including 10 divisions(2 tank div) and several battalion size units.
Great job [:)]
I seriously doubt this game will last even to mid 43. You have to take risks as Japan in 42 but you can't afford to lose critical assets or be decisively engaged on the ground (and lose) if you want to be a serious competitor in 44.
Preserving assets, stockpiling critical resources and building up the scoreboard is the necessary goal criteria for the Empire in 42. Trying to win decisive victories at all costs is the pathway to ruin. Losing 10 divisions in 42 against predominately Indian/ Commonwealth forces![8|]
RE: Battle of Narbada River - MrKane(A) vs DmitryZ(J)
24th Sep - 28th Oct 1942
India:
Japan navy has intercepted big convoy near Karachi on 25th Oct. I have lost 19 xAP in this raid and 70 planes. However combined British & Chinese and Dutch air forces managed to damage Junyo, 2 BB and sunk 2 CL in revenge. He lost over 60 planes too. The bright side is that all transports were empty.
South Pacific:
After being forced to cancel landing at New Zeeland I have changed my approach. Now allies are aiming to cut off NZ by taking Samoa Islands, Fuji and New Caledonia. As result of this "new grand strategy" Americal Division has captured Pago Pago island on 26th Oct. Invasion was protected by 3 carriers (2 USN, 1 RN). My opponent this time did not show up, what was easy to predict, knowing that He has just one carrier left in South Pacific.
China:
Total collapse of defence due complete lack of supplies. My opponent has already break into central plains and I do not see any way to salvage situation.
Air war:
Japanese forces are active in China and in India. China they are operating without resistance. India is different story, Japan air forces are still strong and are very active there, however this activity is linked with heavy losses. He is sending hundreds of planes there, but now we are in situation when even US P-40 are deadly thread to his fighter. I looks like he has problem with training enough good quality pilots to replace losses. Other side of story is that he is still using Ki-43c and A6M2 as main fighters. Hi is operating just single Sentai with Ki-44-IIa. This situation allows my 4e to operate mostly without over most of central India.
India:
Japan navy has intercepted big convoy near Karachi on 25th Oct. I have lost 19 xAP in this raid and 70 planes. However combined British & Chinese and Dutch air forces managed to damage Junyo, 2 BB and sunk 2 CL in revenge. He lost over 60 planes too. The bright side is that all transports were empty.
South Pacific:
After being forced to cancel landing at New Zeeland I have changed my approach. Now allies are aiming to cut off NZ by taking Samoa Islands, Fuji and New Caledonia. As result of this "new grand strategy" Americal Division has captured Pago Pago island on 26th Oct. Invasion was protected by 3 carriers (2 USN, 1 RN). My opponent this time did not show up, what was easy to predict, knowing that He has just one carrier left in South Pacific.
China:
Total collapse of defence due complete lack of supplies. My opponent has already break into central plains and I do not see any way to salvage situation.
Air war:
Japanese forces are active in China and in India. China they are operating without resistance. India is different story, Japan air forces are still strong and are very active there, however this activity is linked with heavy losses. He is sending hundreds of planes there, but now we are in situation when even US P-40 are deadly thread to his fighter. I looks like he has problem with training enough good quality pilots to replace losses. Other side of story is that he is still using Ki-43c and A6M2 as main fighters. Hi is operating just single Sentai with Ki-44-IIa. This situation allows my 4e to operate mostly without over most of central India.
RE: Battle of Narbada River - MrKane(A) vs DmitryZ(J)
Sorry to say, but I think your game may end soon. Your opponent is running out of IJN ships and you are going to have no obstacles in a few months game time.
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RE: Battle of Narbada River - MrKane(A) vs DmitryZ(J)
ORIGINAL: MrKane
24th Sep - 28th Oct 1942
China:[/b]
Total collapse of defence due complete lack of supplies. My opponent has already break into central plains and I do not see any way to salvage situation.
Considering your position elsewhere the importance in China is in keeping some footholds that can later be expanded. Especially the mountains. Even without supply you might hold there for many months.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill
RE: Battle of Narbada River - MrKane(A) vs DmitryZ(J)
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
Sorry to say, but I think your game may end soon. Your opponent is running out of IJN ships and you are going to have no obstacles in a few months game time.
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Yes, you are probably right. However I still believe in His ability resist my attacks. I have taken a lot of beating in early campaigning as I am aggressive player too. Whole 24th US Division was lost on Suva, 1/3 allied fleet was sunk either there.
Yes, most of his ships are damaged, but I have confirmation of sunk only for Akagi & Kaga. I hope he will recovery it is so difficult to find Japan opponent who will not break easily. And he is doing quit well, current VP balance is 17K:40K. Not bad for IJA Player.