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RE: A British Counterattack

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Hello again HvS

Your AAR is excellent, it's the first thing I read on the forms now counting down the days to the 17th and the game release.
Having not played SC for many years its really interesting to see the changes to the AI especially and how you are dealing with them.
As you mentioned in your last report you need to buy more flak for the west, would it be possible to give a brief overview of the forces you have left to garrison the West against partisans/ Air defence etc.

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RE: A British Counterattack

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[font="Times New Roman"][center]Hi taffjones!

Thank you very much.
You are right: the AI has changed a lot since the days of SC2.
I will post a detailed overview at the end of June 1942, and it will include the allocation of my forces.[/center][/font]
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The Conquest of Cairo

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Turn 33

28. Mai 1942


This turn was quite successful. German tanks did strike in the east of Belgorod and conquered Cairo.
So I have started to reduce the massive numerical superiority of the Red Army, and also the British Empire will be weakened.


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Usually I reject this DE, but this time I will accept it.
I need ATGs to improve my defense in those theaters where I am not attacking, esp. Smolensk and Western Europe.


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To send the Kriegsmarine into the Norwegian Sea was a full success.
I did not loose a single ship, and most of my subs gained an experience bar.
At the moment I just miss the Heavy Cruiser "Prinz Eugen", it is still in Stavanger.

- 601 MPPs sunk
- 1 Light Cruiser and 5 Destroyers sunk
- 3 ships took damage (approx. 250 MPPs)

The most important thing is the experience gain of my subs.
When equipped with Advanced Subs Level 3, they will be deadly.


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Wolchow will be easier to conquer when cut off from supply.
Let us see of the AI reacts as it should.


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Von Bock's troops are refreshed to full strength.
Von Leeb attacks a Soviet corps.

In general I cannot do anything in the center until I get some tanks and bombers back.


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The Russian Bear has one paw less.
It does not get very obvious in this image, but a massive concentration of my best units was necessary to achieve this.

I have 7 Bombers in Russia, and 5 took part on this strike.
The same applies to tanks.. 7 out of 10.

I sent my bombers first to de-entrench the Soviets, and of course the enemy suffered some losses. Then I sent my tanks, and infantry finished the job.

Soviet losses: 2 Tank Groups, 2 Armies, 1 Corps, 1 Rocket Artillery, 1 Fighter

My next target is to push all Soviet units behind the Don.
Then I will try to conquer Woronesch. This would have a major impact on the enemy supply.


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The Romanians will need massive help of the Luftwaffe to conquer Kertsch.
Otherwise it will takes ages.


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The German flag waves over Cairo.


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I get 50 MPPs plunder.


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This will be very important in the long run.[/center][/font]
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Russian Fury

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Turn 34

8. Juni 1942


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The AI reacts perfectly.
I cannot cut off Wolchow, so I need to go the normal way and destroy unit by unit.


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The LVII. Panzerkorps fends off 8 Soviet attacks.
After the attack failed, many Soviet unit retreated behind the Don.
Exactly what I want.


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Again and again, I am impressed by the new abilities of Hubert's AI.
The use of rivers to create defensive lines is excellent.
And to put an ATG in front of my tanks is also not a bad idea.[/center][/font]
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Next Stop Woronesch

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Turn 35

19. Juni 1942


I have decided to conquer Woronesch.
I need to reduce the power of the Red Army, and the best way to achieve this is to destroy a large number of enemy units on Low Supply.


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Fighting is the north is tough.
This is an advantage in the north where I will remain defensive, but it is a burden around Wolchow.
I executed four attacks with my tanks and caused just one point damage.

I need the Luftwaffe, this is why I brought it on full strength.


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Being outnumbered big time, I need to remain defensive.
I expect an attack against Orel sooner or later, this is why I build a defensive line there.

I have moved the von Leeb HQ to the south to support the attack on Woronesch.


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Belgorod was an expensive adventure for the Red Army. But I need these victories, or I will get swept away. The Red Army still has an advantage of 2:1... despite these losses.

I will conquer Woronesch.
This will reduce the supply of all enemy units in this area drastically.


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Without the Luftwaffe, I would stick here forever.
The AI is quite good in blocking vital bottlenecks.


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Every centimeter is occupied by Allied soldiers.
It will be very tough to get through.


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Nice to have. Will help me a lot when I need to recon the channel in 1943.
I will purchase a Maritime Bomber sooner or later.


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This looks better than a year ago. But I need to have above 1,000 MPPs as soon as possible.[/center][/font]
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The Red Army Attacks

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Turn 36 (AI)

30. Juni 1942


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The 1. Hungarian Armee was forces to retreat, and the 1. Fallschirmjäger is facing destruction.
But I cannot transfer forces from the south.


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My tanks were attacked six times by Soviet infantry.


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Blame on me!
Apparently I left a hole in my defense, and the AI slipped through.
It will cost me 90 MPPs to refresh the Medium Bombers, and it cannot attack in Turn 37.[/center][/font]
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Mid 1942 Statistics

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Another six months are over, and I want to summarize what has happened.


I. Summary


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German forces have conquered Leningrad, Rostow, Sewastopol and Kertsch. Of course this is very good, but apart from these, I did not capture any resources in Russia. Up to now, I achieved victory by victory, and I have destroyed a lot on enemy units.


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And this is the source of my problems: I haven't destroyed enough Soviet units. In the first 6 months of Unternehmen Barbarossa, I destroyed 94 enemy units. In the consecutive 6 months, I just destroyed 35. Of course I will be more successful in the summer, but the Red Army can put new units into service quicker than I can destroy them.

So let us have a look in the eocnomy.



II. Economic Comparison



As I started the game, Germany had an income of just above 600 MPPs per turn. Now I get almost 900, and this looks good at first sight. But unfortunately it isn't good.. not all.


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The effect of the Russian Winter is clearly visible.
Germany has lost 6.833 MPPs in these first 6 months, more than in 1941.


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There is not much happening with Italy. They lost 713 MPPs which is less than 1941.


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The Soviets lost 10.873 MPPs, which is around 60% of what they lost in 1941.
At least the effect of my actions around Belgorod is clearly visible.


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The British Empire has lost 4.893 MPPs, also just 60% of what it lost in 1941.
Also it is quite obvious that the convoys to Murmansk have started again.
But there is nothing I can do against it. I need the Kriegsmarine prevent or weaken a potential D-Day.


Putting this together, the Axis lost 7.596 MPPs and the Allied 15.766.
So the ratio is roughly 1:2. In 1941, the ratio was around 1:4.
It is quite obvious the Allies have learned to fight.

Let us also have look on the income per turn.

Germany: 880
Itals: 125

Axis: around 1.000


Soviet Union: 1.180
British Empire: 270
USA: 480

Allies: almost 2.000


So the Allies outproduce me.
I will not get to Moscow if I cannot change this.



III. Plans


I will conquer Woronesch and destroy as many Soviet units as possible.
Also I will try to conquer the Levant, but this seems to take ages (the AI is very good when fighting defensive).
From Turn 39 onwards the Leningrad effect will increase my income.
But I need to get above 1.000 MPPs quickly, and I need to reduce the Soviet income as well.
Maybe it makes sense to go for Maikop.



IV. Allocation of the 112 Axis Ground units (without Italy)



Western Europe:

3 fully equipped Armeekorps
4 Coastal Guns
2 Anti Air
7 Garrisons


Scandinavia:

11 Garrisons
(Finnish combat units not counted)


Balkans:

8 Garrisons:


Germany:

4 units


North Africa:

6 units (DAK)


This means I have 67 units in Russia and 45 elsewhere.



V. Comparison of Forces in Russia


The Soviets have 120 Ground units, and I estimate 110 of the are combat units.
Germany has 67 units in Russia, and 10 are necessary to subdue partisans. So I have 57 ground combat units.

So we still have a ratio of 2:1 for the Soviets.
I need to change this and weaken the Soviet Union before the D-Day starts.
If I operate a third of my forces in Russia to the West, the ratio in Russia will be 3:1, which is not healthy at all.[/center][/font]
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RE: Mid 1942 Statistics

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Hi HvS,
thank you again for the AAR. I am following with great interest the evolution of your campaign, in particular the statistics and analyses are really useful.

In SC2 the soviet units were cheaper to buy compared to the german ones (approx. 15% to 30% less), do you know if the same happens in SC3? If it is so, you probably need to have a higher destroyed MPP ratio if you want to deplete the red army.

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RE: Mid 1942 Statistics

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I see you don keep any garrison in Serbia, no partizan activity?
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RE: Mid 1942 Statistics

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There are units in Yugoslavia, otherwise partisans would rise up, not only affecting supply but partisan units.
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RE: Mid 1942 Statistics

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But they are in Croatia, already an Axis allied, not in Serbia,where the partizan activity was mostly located, which is why I asked
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RE: Mid 1942 Statistics

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[font="Times New Roman"][center]Hi apec!

Again, you're welcome!
Some Soviet units are cheaper to purchase. Im AoC the discount was 40%, but Bill Runacre will know this better.
And indeed you are right: I need an improved ratio.


Hi Inaki!

Maybe the situation in Serbia gets more obvious on this image:


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From 1944 on, there might be even more partisans.


Hi rjh1971,

thanks fort explaining this issue.[/center][/font]
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Crossing The Don

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Turn 37

7. Juli 1942


German troops conquered Woronesch.
My plan to decimate the Red Army had a good start.


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Although my ground troops advance, the Royal Air Force is still a big threat.


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I say no.
There are not enough MPPs in my wallett, and I don't need a sub in the Black Sea.
It does not get obvious, but I have a severe MPPs shortage anyway.
I cannot refresh the Kriegsmarine, because every available MPP goes to North Africa and Russia.


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If I have good weather, Wolchow will fall next turn.
This will be a death trap for the Soviet units.


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Army Group Center needs to hold the line for another couple of months.


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With help from the Luftwaffe, I was able to destroy the best Soviet HQ: Schukow.
From Turn 39 on, most Soviets units will have low supply.


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You might remember the Soviet infantry units that damaged one of my Medium Bombers in Turn 36?
I needed to refresh it this turn, and this is why the corps near Noworossiysk survived.


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Most of my units are on full strength.
I need them in good condition for the next attack.


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Now I can bring my ATGs to the next level.
I just need MPPs.[/center][/font]
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Russian Fury II

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Turn 38 (AI)

14. Juli 1942


Soviet troops attack my positions from Finland down to Rostow.
I haven't lost any units, but a substantial amount of MPPs.


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It is frightening how many tanks the Red Army has.
I destroyed a lot around Belgorod, but they still have plenty of them.


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I feel happy I did achieve a complete victory at Belgorod.
If all of the units I destroyed down there would the be in service, I would have a massive problem.


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Although I lost a lot of strength points, I can be happy.
Due to the destruction of the Schukow HQ, most enemy units have low supply.
If they were still on full supply, I would miss a couple of my own units now.[/center][/font]
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RE: Russian Fury II

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Outstanding AAR very insightful thank you for taking the time to share your obvious gaming strategic prowess.[&o]
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RE: Russian Fury II

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I have noticed that in the videos they allow their air tech to remain at a low level. they lose more in replacements than in money needed to purchase air tech.
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RE: Russian Fury II

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[font="Times New Roman"][center]Hi Kirk!

Thank you very much for your kind words.
I need to admit that I have a lot of experience, but I know quite a few people who beat the crap out of me im MP.
There is still a lot to learn. [:D]


Hi Dan!

As far as I know the videos use an older build. I use (almost) the latest version, and my experiences in Russia show that the losses of the Red Air Force are higher than mine, but just slightly. I have Advanced Aircraft 2 at the moment, and I think the Soviet have the same. Their (higher) losses are a consequence of less experienced HQs.. and occasionally there are dogfights were my losses are higher than their losses. Maybe one out of five.[/center][/font]
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RE: Russian Fury II

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I've been pressing F5 alot the last couple of days. Very nice AAR. [:D]
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Bloody Don

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Turn 39


21. Juli 1942


German units cross the Don and try to encircle all units between Woronesch and Kantemirowka.
It will be necessary to conquer Borisoglebsk, and I order a couple of Bombers in range of the town.


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Without experienced bomber units, I would not have any chance to conquer Wolchow.
Attacks from swampy terrain against towns get severe handicaps, and even my Elite Panzerkorps did not do much damage.
But now I control Wolchow, and the Soviets will attack me.
And they will have the same handicaps.


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The unit I destroyed in the north was a garrison. I am not able to destroy one of the combat units, because my Armeekorps cause 1 point of damage and my only Armee does 2-3 points.

In the south it looks a bit better. I have 3 Armeen, and there is no river between me and the Russians.
So I succeed in destroying an enemy Mechanized unit.

I am very happy about every destroyed unit in this part of the front line.
I need to be defensive here.. I don't have any tanks or planes.


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Two more units cross the Don.
There must be another HQ somewhere behind the Katjuscha.. most enemy units have good supply.
This is the point where I decided to attack Borisoglebsk in Turn 41.
I think there are not many troops in the Soviet rear, and so I started to move my bombers.


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The Soviet lines get perforated.

I have been asked why I don't attack Morozowsk.
That is fairly easy to explain: I don't have a spare HQ.
Von Rundstedt is in Taganrog and von Schobert is Kantemirowka.
If I let one of them move to the east, a lot of units will have poor supply.
I need to destroy all enemy units around Kantemirowka before I can think about Morozowsk.

My bombers around von Schobert are in range of Borisoglebsk.


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I wish I could use the Luftwaffe to attack Noworossiysk in Turn 41, but Borisoglebsk is more important.


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There is just one real combat unit left on the British side: the WDF Army in Port Said.
I have destroyed it once, and I will destroy it a second time.

Unless something extraordinary happens, I will be able to advance into Palestine within a few turns.


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I am short of MPPs, but I purchase a Maritime Bomber.
Why do I do this? Check the Naval Spotting. I can put this unit to Calais or Caen, and it will do a passive recon of the complete channel.


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This will be very important in 1943.
The Royal Air force seems to have Level 3 already, and I need to keep the pace.[/center][/font]
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Russian Despair

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Turn 40 (AI)

28. Juli 1942


The AI tries to continue its offensives on all theaters.
But it has less power than in Turn 36 and 38, so the attacks do less damage on my side.


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In the north, I counted four or five Soviet attacks.
My units are entrenched, and I had no losses.

The same happened around Wolchow. Four attacks against the 18. Armee, the last one was conducted by Heavy Tanks.
No losses at all on my side.


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There are enemy attack along the front line, but just minor damage.


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One very important detail: the AI has moved the ATGs.
The way to Borisoglebsk is less crowded.


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This was a superb move be the AI.
I need to pull the 2. Armee back to refresh it.
This will delay my advance.


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The AI leaves the WDF Army in Port Suez to delay my advance.
Quite a high price.

All other units run to Palestine.[/center][/font]
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