Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR
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Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #3. USA Attempts DOW on Japan.
Just fantastic. [:@]

Just fantastic. [:@]

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Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #3. Actions.


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Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #3. Post Naval Moves. Contested Sea Areas.
No combat attempted in any.

No combat attempted in any.

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Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #3. USSR. Begins Railing Blue Factories, Starting with Odessa.


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Japan breathes a large sigh of relief. I think it was a mistake not to declare war on the US the same turn as on the CW. I had not realized your chance of success was going to be so good (50%).Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #3. USA Attempts DOW on Japan.
Just fantastic.
Pat
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Dang isolationist! [:D]ORIGINAL: ashkpa
Japan breathes a large sigh of relief. I think it was a mistake not to declare war on the US the same turn as on the CW. I had not realized your chance of success was going to be so good (50%).Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #3. USA Attempts DOW on Japan.
Just fantastic.
Ronnie
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Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #3. CW. India & Burma.
I hate taking combines with the CW during early impulses of a turn. But it was absolutely necessary this turn. The CW use their one rail and 1 of their 3 land moves to try to shore things up in Eastern India on the Burma border.
The Japanese really did catch the CW with their pants down this turn.

I hate taking combines with the CW during early impulses of a turn. But it was absolutely necessary this turn. The CW use their one rail and 1 of their 3 land moves to try to shore things up in Eastern India on the Burma border.
The Japanese really did catch the CW with their pants down this turn.

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Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #3. CW. Ceylon.
They used one of their naval moves to load and transport an Indian MIL and the last of their 3 land moves to disembark them in Ceylon and hopefully saving Ceylon, for now at least I hope.

They used one of their naval moves to load and transport an Indian MIL and the last of their 3 land moves to disembark them in Ceylon and hopefully saving Ceylon, for now at least I hope.

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Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #3. USSR. The Eastern Front.
RETREAT!!! Or as reported to Comrade Stalin, the Red Army made a few minor strategic pull backs in order to adjust their lines.

RETREAT!!! Or as reported to Comrade Stalin, the Red Army made a few minor strategic pull backs in order to adjust their lines.

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Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Axis #5. Weather.
You've got to be kidding me. Another 1 is rolled for the weather. If only I could have reversed the rolls for the USA attempted DOW on Japan, which was an 8, and this weather roll!

You've got to be kidding me. Another 1 is rolled for the weather. If only I could have reversed the rolls for the USA attempted DOW on Japan, which was an 8, and this weather roll!

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To be honest, you have only yourself to blame for the failed US DoW. 50% for it to go wrong is quite high. Personally, I would have waited with the US until I get 70%, And that goes quite fast with all the extra chits which are now drawn into the pools, because of the Japanese attacking the CW. It's winter, turns are short so what's to gain by attacking with the US in this turn?
Or do you have assembled a huge fleet in Pearl Harbor, ready to attack the Japanese CV's? Probably not since that approach is quite risky...
Or do you have assembled a huge fleet in Pearl Harbor, ready to attack the Japanese CV's? Probably not since that approach is quite risky...
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What are the ramifications of the US not successfully declaring war? Love the pull-back on the Russian front, now a tough nut to crack.
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Honestly, I though I would be given a 50% to DOW Japan and a 50% chance to DOW Germany, at the risk of two different chit pulls. So I though I had a 75% to get a DOW against at least one. But, once I hit the failed DOW against Japan the game wouldn't let me try one against Germany.ORIGINAL: Centuur
To be honest, you have only yourself to blame for the failed US DoW. 50% for it to go wrong is quite high. Personally, I would have waited with the US until I get 70%, And that goes quite fast with all the extra chits which are now drawn into the pools, because of the Japanese attacking the CW. It's winter, turns are short so what's to gain by attacking with the US in this turn?
Or do you have assembled a huge fleet in Pearl Harbor, ready to attack the Japanese CV's? Probably not since that approach is quite risky...
I lose a chit in the Japanese entry pool and, I was watching that closely, but I think a chit got moved from the German/Italy entry to the Japanese entry. But, I very well may be confused on the last point.ORIGINAL: WIF_Killzone
What are the ramifications of the US not successfully declaring war? Love the pull-back on the Russian front, now a tough nut to crack.
Ronnie
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Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Axis #5. Japan DOW's the USA.
After President Roosevelt's failed attempt to persuade the US congress to declare war against the nation of Japan, the Japanese government oblige him by declaring war on the USA. Confused by all this President Roosevelt turns to his military intelligence, specifically his COMINT (communications intercept) and code breakers for the reason. A US listening station in the Philippines passed intercepted Japanese naval messages back to Pearl Harbor for analysis. Code breakers and analyst working there successfully decrypted enough of the JN-25b encoded message to get an answer for President Roosevelt.
The answer given to President Roosevelt was that the Japanese High Command feared that the the US submarine fleet based in the Philippines was just too great of a threat to their convoy lines transporting oil, rubber and other raw materials from newly captured territories.
Interesting isn't it. That what appears as harmless to you may appear as a significant threat to your opponent and vise versa.

After President Roosevelt's failed attempt to persuade the US congress to declare war against the nation of Japan, the Japanese government oblige him by declaring war on the USA. Confused by all this President Roosevelt turns to his military intelligence, specifically his COMINT (communications intercept) and code breakers for the reason. A US listening station in the Philippines passed intercepted Japanese naval messages back to Pearl Harbor for analysis. Code breakers and analyst working there successfully decrypted enough of the JN-25b encoded message to get an answer for President Roosevelt.
JN-26b intercept 014M, Manila Listening Station
Decided after much debate to [garbled] DOW on the US. As stated earlier, I think it was a mistake not to do it [garbled] just do not want those submarines to get a surprise [garbled].
The answer given to President Roosevelt was that the Japanese High Command feared that the the US submarine fleet based in the Philippines was just too great of a threat to their convoy lines transporting oil, rubber and other raw materials from newly captured territories.
Interesting isn't it. That what appears as harmless to you may appear as a significant threat to your opponent and vise versa.

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JF42 i5:
Germany takes a land (does not align Finland).
Italy and Japan take combines.
Japan moves a CP to the Bay of Bengal (should have done this last impulse) and a to CA's to the W. Indian Ocean. A Zero joins the NAV in the 4-box of the Marianne's.
Italy moves a fighter and NAV to the E. Med.
Italian subs move to the Central Atlantic and Cape Verde Basin.
Naval Searches:
E. Med is initiated by Italian fighter. Rolls of 10/7 result in no contact.
W. Med, Italians do not initiate (French sub won't have a chance since no axis units moved into the area).
BoB, Italian Alcione bomber initiates searches. Rolls of 8/3 result in no contact.
CVB, Italian sub initiates searches. Sukua bomber can react. Will it?

Germany takes a land (does not align Finland).
Italy and Japan take combines.
Japan moves a CP to the Bay of Bengal (should have done this last impulse) and a to CA's to the W. Indian Ocean. A Zero joins the NAV in the 4-box of the Marianne's.
Italy moves a fighter and NAV to the E. Med.
Italian subs move to the Central Atlantic and Cape Verde Basin.
Naval Searches:
E. Med is initiated by Italian fighter. Rolls of 10/7 result in no contact.
W. Med, Italians do not initiate (French sub won't have a chance since no axis units moved into the area).
BoB, Italian Alcione bomber initiates searches. Rolls of 8/3 result in no contact.
CVB, Italian sub initiates searches. Sukua bomber can react. Will it?

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1. CVB, Italian sub initiates searches. Sukua bomber can react. Will it? Yes, 0-box please.
2. Central Atlantic. If, when, the Italian sub initiates search there please fly the Blenhiem bomber based in the British Antilles out to the highest box possible using extended range, if possible.
2. Central Atlantic. If, when, the Italian sub initiates search there please fly the Blenhiem bomber based in the British Antilles out to the highest box possible using extended range, if possible.
Ronnie
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JF42 i5.
What you'll see below is the poorest set of search rolls I have every seen. In the pacific, I had a 40% or better in all zones except one, where I rolled a 3 and needed a 2. I did find in one zone and destroyed 2 CP. But I was not able to cut supply to the Philippines.
CVB, Skua reacted to 0-box. Rolls of 8/7 resulted in no contact.
Central Atlantic, sub initiated and Blenhiem flew to 3-box. Rolls of 5/8 results in no contact.
Polynesia, sub in 3-box initiates. Rolls of 9/10 result in no contact
China Sea Hagura initiates and JP fighter flys to 0-box. Rolls of 8/10 result in no contact.
Central Pacific sub initiates. Rolls of 9/10 result in no contact.
Marianne's the fighter initiates. Rolls of 10/9 result in no contact.
In the East Indian Ocean the JP CA initiates (both vessels are now disorganized). Rolls of 1/5 result in the destruction of both CPs.
W. Indian Ocean a CA initiates. Rolls of 3/10 result in no contact (could have gotten the Queen's).
Cape Naturaliste the CV initiates (both vessels now disorganized). Rolls of 8/6 result in no contact.
No combat initiated in the Marshalls
South China Sea the Ashigara initiates (it and the Idtumo should be disorganized). Rolls of 10/6 result in no contact.
What you'll see below is the poorest set of search rolls I have every seen. In the pacific, I had a 40% or better in all zones except one, where I rolled a 3 and needed a 2. I did find in one zone and destroyed 2 CP. But I was not able to cut supply to the Philippines.
CVB, Skua reacted to 0-box. Rolls of 8/7 resulted in no contact.
Central Atlantic, sub initiated and Blenhiem flew to 3-box. Rolls of 5/8 results in no contact.
Polynesia, sub in 3-box initiates. Rolls of 9/10 result in no contact
China Sea Hagura initiates and JP fighter flys to 0-box. Rolls of 8/10 result in no contact.
Central Pacific sub initiates. Rolls of 9/10 result in no contact.
Marianne's the fighter initiates. Rolls of 10/9 result in no contact.
In the East Indian Ocean the JP CA initiates (both vessels are now disorganized). Rolls of 1/5 result in the destruction of both CPs.
W. Indian Ocean a CA initiates. Rolls of 3/10 result in no contact (could have gotten the Queen's).
Cape Naturaliste the CV initiates (both vessels now disorganized). Rolls of 8/6 result in no contact.
No combat initiated in the Marshalls
South China Sea the Ashigara initiates (it and the Idtumo should be disorganized). Rolls of 10/6 result in no contact.
Pat
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JF42 i5: Land Attacks
Japan and Germany are making one land attack each. No possible allied reactions to the Japanese invasion of the Dutch East Indies (+17 after shore bombardment).
On the East Front the Russians can react to the German attack on Cernauti. Options shown in the images below. The German Bf110 can react to the hex as well.

Japan and Germany are making one land attack each. No possible allied reactions to the Japanese invasion of the Dutch East Indies (+17 after shore bombardment).
On the East Front the Russians can react to the German attack on Cernauti. Options shown in the images below. The German Bf110 can react to the hex as well.

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