How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR

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So the Royal Navy decides to send two old R-class to the French coast to bombard the German forces opposite the British sector. The XVIII Corps is occupying Calais - the perfect target. The combat indicator is 1:2. HM battleships Revenge and Royal Oak lay down a carpet of 15-inch shells...

...the result is 2:0. Seriously?

Don't bombard towns unless you're heavily upgraded. [;)]
I don't do that at all in the early game.
You can bombard units, but it usually ends up 0:0.
Just park the both of them(with air cover) next to the harbour in the Netherlands to keep supply down.

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Yeah, only thing I find worth bombarding is enemy aerial units.

Apart from that, love the humor you put in these Warspite!
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I sometimes bombard blockaded ports to get their supply down faster. Think Malta and Rhodes.
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28th May 1940

Italy

The good work by the French Navy has stopped the Regia Aeronautica from getting involved in the march to the west. However, the Italian Army appears able to roll all before them regardless which is a tad annoying in good defensive mountainous country. Nice falls to the Italian Panzerini Army without suffering a loss.....of course....

North Africa
The Italian 10th Army, under Marshal Rodolfo Graziani, crosses the border into Egypt. I cannot see what has crossed and in what strength - and nor do I intend to go looking at present.

North Atlantic
The U-Boats run silent, run deep again after their brief foray. The British I believe caused some loss to the Iron Ore convoy but I cannot call up the summary (that happens if you save the game, close, and the re-open; Hotkey l does not work...

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North Africa The Italian 10th Army, under Marshal Rodolfo Graziani, crosses the border into Egypt. I cannot see what has crossed and in what strength - and nor do I intend to go looking at present.
Maybe you should send the RN and scout the Italian forces. Maybe there is an opportunity to encircle the Italians and then eliminate them before the German units arrive. Might be nice to begin the defence of Egypt in Tobruk...
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North Africa The Italian 10th Army, under Marshal Rodolfo Graziani, crosses the border into Egypt. I cannot see what has crossed and in what strength - and nor do I intend to go looking at present.
Maybe you should send the RN and scout the Italian forces. Maybe there is an opportunity to encircle the Italians and then eliminate them before the German units arrive. Might be nice to begin the defence of Egypt in Tobruk...
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I tried that in the last game. The Regia Marina has all its battleships and took the **** out of the RN. My troops couldn't even slightly hurt the Italians before the Germans arrived and swept me off the continent. I'm not doing that again.
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North Africa The Italian 10th Army, under Marshal Rodolfo Graziani, crosses the border into Egypt. I cannot see what has crossed and in what strength - and nor do I intend to go looking at present.
Maybe you should send the RN and scout the Italian forces. Maybe there is an opportunity to encircle the Italians and then eliminate them before the German units arrive. Might be nice to begin the defence of Egypt in Tobruk...
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I tried that in the last game. The Regia Marina has all its battleships and took the **** out of the RN. My troops couldn't even slightly hurt the Italians before the Germans arrived and swept me off the continent. I'm not doing that again.
Then use the French ships to lay a trap for the Italian fleet?

Edit: Didn't the RN suffer losses due to shore bombardment before engaging the Italian fleet? If your fleet is full strength and reinforced with a couple of French ships should not the chance of crushing the Italian fleet be decent?
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Maybe you should send the RN and scout the Italian forces. Maybe there is an opportunity to encircle the Italians and then eliminate them before the German units arrive. Might be nice to begin the defence of Egypt in Tobruk...
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I tried that in the last game. The Regia Marina has all its battleships and took the **** out of the RN. My troops couldn't even slightly hurt the Italians before the Germans arrived and swept me off the continent. I'm not doing that again.
Then use the French ships to lay a trap for the Italian fleet?
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a) they are in the south of France trying to assist the Armee des Alpes from being splattered.

b) if they get slaughtered I simply hasten the end for France as the National Morale nosedives.
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8th June 1940

Soviet Union


Decision Time. The Soviets are asked if they want to continue exercising their rights under the Nazi-Soviet pact. Stalin of course says yes. Hitler, doesn't bat an eyelid about the Baltic States, but Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina give him pause for thought. The Soviets are getting too close to Ploesti....

Hitler of course does not nothing directly, but behind the scenes his mind starts working feverishly away at the Balkan situation.....

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8th June 1940

United Kingdom

British morale suffers a dip (still at 103% though) with the loss of Belgium - but should be restored with the locking up of Oswald Mosley. Go on - you all know the football chant*:

[Directed at Mosley]
**** Adolf Hitler,
You're just a **** Adolf Hitler
**** Adolf Hitler.
You're just a **** Adolf Hitler

* My fave was Spurs fans signing it to Nani with Michael Jackson replacing Adolf Hitler [:)]

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8th June 1940

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United Kingdom

The two fleet carriers HMS Illustrious and HMS Victorious arrive in Bristol

MPP Expenditure

UK - The British spend far too many points (almost 100) to get the HQ to sea and a Corps to France. The rest is spent bringing the BEF up to scratch and a few MPP on the RN....
French - I try and bring a few key units up to strength, although, like the British, there just aren't enough points....
USA - The USA have only 100 MPP and so go into save mode
USSR - The USSR have 25 MPP.... [:(]

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warspite1

I tried that in the last game. The Regia Marina has all its battleships and took the **** out of the RN. My troops couldn't even slightly hurt the Italians before the Germans arrived and swept me off the continent. I'm not doing that again.
Then use the French ships to lay a trap for the Italian fleet?
warspite1

a) they are in the south of France trying to assist the Armee des Alpes from being splattered.

b) if they get slaughtered I simply hasten the end for France as the National Morale nosedives.
A) Doesn't the French forces going to be splattered either way?

B) Isn't France already nosediving? Why not crush the Italian navy before the crash? Isn't it better that the French ships go down fighting the Italians rather than the RN?

Edit: Isn't there a chance that the Italian ships gets splattered instead with a increase of the French and UK morale as a result?
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Then use the French ships to lay a trap for the Italian fleet?
warspite1

a) they are in the south of France trying to assist the Armee des Alpes from being splattered.

b) if they get slaughtered I simply hasten the end for France as the National Morale nosedives.
A) Doesn't the French forces going to be splattered either way?

B) Isn't France already nosediving? Why not crush the Italian navy before the crash? Isn't it better that the French ships go down fighting the Italians rather than the RN?

Edit: Isn't there a chance that the Italian ships gets splattered instead with a increase of the French and UK morale as a result?
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Not the way I play no.....[:D]
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8th June 1940

France


The counterattack. The British land IX Corps and bring their units up to strength. Meanwhile the big question was what to do with the French. It was clear pretty quickly that Reims was not going to be re-taken. That being the case, Gamelin's attention turned to the warm cosy fire that was beckoning him from the back of the room. He sat down in front of it in his favourite chair with a steaming hot cup of cocoa on the table beside him, and quickly fell asleep....[>:]

General Weygand then took over and planned a counterattack against the XXI Corps in Verdun. Just about every French Army, and a few corps too, from the 2nd Army Group was involved and they suffered some heavy losses in total. However, the German corps was destroyed.

Most of the French troops north of the Marne then retreated behind the river. The Polish Corps was brought up to plug the gap to the west of Reims and 7th Army reinforced. 7th Army, nortwest of Reims, looks incredibly exposed now but someone had to be....


Verdun: The 'new' Verdun
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8th June 1940

France


On the Franco-Italian front, the Italian Army has driven a wedge between the two wings of the Armee des Alpes, but I feel I need to keep Toulon and Marseilles safe. Lyon too, but that is a little further away....and I can only cope with one problem at a time.

The six French battleships bombarded the Italian tank - all without any joy. I am only thankful they were not themselves hit.....

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I have sent both Canadian destroyers home to upgrade while the British and French continue to search in vain for the wolf packs.

The Wavell HQ sails alone for Egypt. The last lone fast convoy, carrying the 33rd Engineers, reached Egypt and the Engineer will shortly begin work - assuming the Italians don't attack first....

I remove the 2nd Submarine Flotilla for a couple of turns - and intend to return with the Home Fleet in due course (upgrades permitting)....


The bulk of the MPP have had to go north, but a few reinforcements have found their way to the southern front.
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19th June 1940

France


Okay I am going to start off in Southern France here and a little moanette. The Italian Army is simply indestructible. Again - not one loss....

Right, that's my moan out of the way, what is the score? The Italians have switched attention from the Algerians to XV Corps, and have seriously damaged this unit. With a much reduced MPP income this turn, I think there is no choice but to pull back again.

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19th June 1940

France


Just when you think you have a chance.... A combination of aircraft and tanks at Chalons wiped out the French 2nd Army (causing a perhaps fatal breach in the front), sheer weight of numbers have reduced the British II Corps at Amiens to almost nothing, and the French 7th and 8th Armies have been severely mauled by the endless infantry the Germans appear to have.

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19th June 1940

United Kingdom and France


The U-Boats have announced their presence once again. They just missed my fast convoy heading for Egypt! Unfortunately with the Canadians in port, the remaining thin destroyer screen finds itself far to the north of the reported positions of the German boats......

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19th June 1940

Soviet Union


The Soviets continue to expand their empire as agreed between Molotov and Ribbentrop.

First the Baltic States (without any menace, or coercion, honest) are made to feel the welcoming, and ample bosom of Mother Russia... then it was the turn of the Soviets to partake in the great Romanian carve-up. Romania had won massive territorial gains at the end of the First World War. Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina were just two of the territories they were forced to hand back.

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30th June 1940

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None

MPP Expenditure

UK - The British spend their MPP on upgrading the navy as much as port capacity will allow. They also upgrade and reinforce a few other units - but there was not much left after the Navy took their share.
France - The French reinforce the armies and corps in Southern France.
USA - Nothing for the US.
USSR - What can you buy with 1MPP?

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