How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR

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Wow. That was a pretty good defensive line to bust and take Paris from. In hindsight, I guess a unit to the NE of Paris would have been in order to make the Germans fight for more access to Paris. Either way, you did better than historical in terms of drawing the battle out for France into August.

Interesting in deploying two engineer units to Africa to build fortifications like that. I would have considered making the line 1 more hex row west to include the hill and also keep the enemy away from direct attacks on El Alamein at least initially. I think the thing that will be your undoing here is you have only 1 army and the lack of air is going to make itself felt as well. While I didn't have any engineers available here, I did send additional armies and a HQ unit. The armies are much better in terms of stats (but also more expensive), especially early on in the war on defense. Allied corps just serve as target practice for the most part. I took my lumps, and while the Africa Corps managed to push my line back one hex, they were never able to really threaten El Alamein and they eventually ran out of steam, although it was very close for a long time. Note that I eventually wound up with 2 ground support planes, 2 fighters and 3 carriers and that was barely enough to win air superiority and be able to attrition the Africa Corps to the point that I managed to stop their attack and then push them back out of Egypt in the early part of 1942.

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Thank-you. The lack of air units (and another army) is only due to the fact that I am convinced of a Sea Lion heading my way. Of course the aircraft take no time to arrive, the army is more of a problem.......
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18th August 1940

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The end is nigh. No Vichy just yet though. I am annoyed at throwing away the British given that Paris was never even remotely likely to be re-captured [:@]

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18th August 1940

France


Not much to say I don't think. I will withdraw to the south as fast as my little legs will carry me and hope there is no Vichy declaration.

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18th August 1940

France


Not much to comment on here either. At least the Corps in Toulon should get some reinforcements this turn [;)]

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25th August 1940

Reinforcements

United Kingdom

HMS Duke of York and HMS Prince of Wales join the fleet in London.

Soviet Union
The 23rd Army arrives in Duagvapils

MPP Expenditure

UK - Reinforce and upgrades of anything they can in Egypt and the UK! For the first time I get Elite Reinforcements for the 2nd Submarine Flotilla.
France - The French cannot spend any points on any troops - even those that haven't moved in the south and so buys a couple of garrisons.
USA - Advanced Tanks and Anti Tank research is the order of the day
USSR - Nothing

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25th August 1940

The British sign the destroyers for bases deal...

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25th August 1940

Given that I think Sea Lion is going to happen my natural reaction here should be to keep the tanks in the UK. However I decide to put them in North Africa anyway.....

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25th August 1940

All the French fit on one map now! In a bid to save the HQ the RAF launch three air strikes against the German unit furthest west, but only lightly damages the defenders.

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1st September 1940

The Germans declare Vichy. Here are the rest of the "highlights":

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1st September 1940

Romania: The territories gained at the end of the First World War have been lost.

After the Soviets took back Bessarabia (and Northern Bukovina which had never even been Russian) previously, Hitler then personally intervened, and in the Second Vienna Award, the Romanians have been ordered to give Transylvania back to the Hungarians. Between times, under pressure from Germany, the Romanians had to hand back Southern Dobruja to Bulgaria.

This is what happens when all your friends have suddenly been defeated and you are essentially on your own. King Carol's efforts to save his crown came to nought however. After Carol went into exile he was succeeded by Michael I - but his power was effectively taken by General (later Marshal) Ion Antonescu and the Iron Guard. Antonescu knew who Romania's future lay with - and the country would pay a very heavy price as a result.....


Michael I with Antonescu - when you are in deep **** just pretend you know what you are doing
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1st September 1940

The French conclude a separate peace with Germany. The bulk of the French Empire pledge allegiance to the "Hero of Verdun" Marshal Philippe Petain and his new Vichy regime. He dissolves the 3rd Republic and, conveniently forgetting the fact that the future of France depends on what Hitler says it is (if Hitler wins) or what his Free French opponents say it is (if the Allies win), he sets about a program for the National Regeneration of France......


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1st September 1940

I think it was the superb World at War TV series that showed a few seconds of film that flipped between scenes of triumphant German troops marching through Paris and scenes of 6th Army marching into captivity at Stalingrad. Marvellous clip and a lesson for the AI if it thinks it has this game won so there.....

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8th September 1940

Reinforcements

United Kingdom

An Infantry Corps arrives in Halifax

Soviet Union
Two Garrisons which are placed in Riga and Narva
An Engineer south of Leningrad

MPP Expenditure

UK - The British spend all its MPP on building up the navy, army and airforces to the extent possible. A lot of MPP is used to build up AA defence of major towns and ports too.
USA - Nothing
USSR - Nothing

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8th September 1940

What a Muppet!!!

I've just spent all my MPP and forgot to launch Operation Ariel.... What a remtard. So Gort and IX Corps who otherwise could have got away, are sitting in Northern France....
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Entertaining AAR and comforting to see I'm not the only one being beat up by the AI [8|]. If you need an opponent when multiplayer arrives, let me know.
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Entertaining AAR and comforting to see I'm not the only one being beat up by the AI [8|]. If you need an opponent when multiplayer arrives, let me know.
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Thank-you. Yes, that would be good - AndyG1 has requested too but happy to have a couple of games going.
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8th September 1940

The Free French Navy or Forces Navales Francaises Libres (FNFL) were relatively small in 1940. The five destroyers of the Chacal, Fantasque and Bourrasque classes being the main component.

The game has this as a CL, which arrives in Plymouth at half strength but should be a DD.

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8th September 1940

The British and French were so desperate for military equipment when the war started that they turned to the USA. In hindsight Britain spent an awful lot of money on aircraft that was of mixed value. However, a hidden benefit was perhaps that the Americans were able to learn from the UK's war experience. The American aircraft that followed would be an entirely different proposition altogether....

The British took over the French orders after the fall of France and I do the same here.

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8th September 1940

Much is made of Operation Catapult, but frankly the take up of volunteers to fight for de Gaulle was extremely small. This is perhaps not surprising given that, unlike smaller countries that set up a Government in exile that their population could rally around, the official French Government was Vichy and therefore there may have been a reluctance to go to war against the stated neutral policy of one's country.

Churchill on the other hand had no such doubts. The Free French were in the right and he gave his support - I do the same.

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8th September 1940

So lets move the turn on and watch the totally unnecessary death throes of Lord Gort VC [8|]
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