TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY

Post descriptions of your brilliant successes and unfortunate demises.

Moderator: Shannon V. OKeets

User avatar
warspite1
Posts: 42130
Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:06 pm
Location: England

RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY

Post by warspite1 »

I calculate that if the Germans move nothing to the Eastern Front I won't be able to break the pact for a few turns yet, but as you say, its nice to give them something to think about.
Now Maitland, now's your time!

Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
User avatar
Orm
Posts: 33158
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 7:53 pm
Location: Sweden

RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY

Post by Orm »

ORIGINAL: warspite1

I calculate that if the Germans move nothing to the Eastern Front I won't be able to break the pact for a few turns yet, but as you say, its nice to give them something to think about.
Indeed.

And once the new year begins the value needed to break the pact lowers. And since Germany can not afford the risk that USSR will be able to DOW Germany it should make them nervous. Or force them to reinforce the Eastern border.
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often students, for heaven's sake. - Terry Pratchett

A government is a body of people; usually, notably, ungoverned. - Quote from Firefly
User avatar
warspite1
Posts: 42130
Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:06 pm
Location: England

RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY

Post by warspite1 »

So the turn continues. Do you want to pass? I could do with moving the Soviets to be honest, although as the Axis do not have aircraft on the Eastern Front I could leave it if desired. Only one move in the Far East - and now the Japanese have railed a unit in to Kirin, its no longer that important.
Now Maitland, now's your time!

Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
User avatar
Orm
Posts: 33158
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 7:53 pm
Location: Sweden

RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY

Post by Orm »

No passing. We are done with passing. We are done with being passive. We are done with letting them setting the agenda.

See, what one one can do for morale. [:D]
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often students, for heaven's sake. - Terry Pratchett

A government is a body of people; usually, notably, ungoverned. - Quote from Firefly
User avatar
Orm
Posts: 33158
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 7:53 pm
Location: Sweden

RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY

Post by Orm »

I thought the plan was for the Chinese Communists was to advance into the mountains so that they get 4 hexes on Sian?
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often students, for heaven's sake. - Terry Pratchett

A government is a body of people; usually, notably, ungoverned. - Quote from Firefly
User avatar
warspite1
Posts: 42130
Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:06 pm
Location: England

RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY

Post by warspite1 »

ORIGINAL: Orm

No passing. We are done with passing. We are done with being passive. We are done with letting them setting the agenda.

See, what one one can do for morale. [:D]
warspite1

I thought that would be the case - but there is no harm in checking [:)]
Now Maitland, now's your time!

Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
User avatar
warspite1
Posts: 42130
Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:06 pm
Location: England

RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY

Post by warspite1 »

ORIGINAL: Orm

I thought the plan was for the Chinese Communists was to advance into the mountains so that they get 4 hexes on Sian?
warspite1

The original plan was to make the Japanese fall back by threatening to outflank them with a drive (well a march) to Taiyuan with the division and mountain unit (supported by Mao). That was cancelled because the Chinese Nationalists were under pressure and the ChiComms took over their positions further south.

The ChiComms are like a fleet in being, diverting good Japanese troops (2 HQ) and they can't really lessen that garrison. But a 2-1 assault without a modifier and throwing my customary 2 gives the Japanese a golden chance for a counter-attack - and relieve the pressure.

I think the Japanese have just woken up to the Soviet attack - along with having to seize territory overseas, they are stretched. If possible - and as and when the Nationalists can spare the troops - I would like to revert to my original plan. The Japanese cannot run the risk of the ChiComms getting to Taiyuan - and even if that does not work, there could be the chance of an attack on Yenen instead and where - even if the throw goes wrong, the counter-attack options are lessened.
Now Maitland, now's your time!

Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
User avatar
Orm
Posts: 33158
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 7:53 pm
Location: Sweden

RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY

Post by Orm »

The attack didn't have to be at once but it is nice to be in a position to do so.

And China is indeed like a 'fleet in being' with the difference that when they are attacked the production increases. Hence a minor Japanese aggression is to the Chinese advantage. It might even take some Japanese with them and hopefully disorganize units. If we move into a central position and lose a unit it is not that big a deal unless the Japanese can press the attack or continue the advance after the attack. So I dislike giving up good defensive hexes that Japan has to fight for without a struggle.

The Nationalists can not really attack because of the attack weakness. But Japan must always consider their attacks against the Communists if it can cause their forces to become disorganized.

I see that we have a somewhat different philosophy when fighting in China and this cause some friction. I suppose that is as it should be. [:D]
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often students, for heaven's sake. - Terry Pratchett

A government is a body of people; usually, notably, ungoverned. - Quote from Firefly
User avatar
Orm
Posts: 33158
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 7:53 pm
Location: Sweden

RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY

Post by Orm »

Should I do the first part this impulse?

Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often students, for heaven's sake. - Terry Pratchett

A government is a body of people; usually, notably, ungoverned. - Quote from Firefly
User avatar
warspite1
Posts: 42130
Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:06 pm
Location: England

RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY

Post by warspite1 »

ORIGINAL: Orm

Should I do the first part this impulse?

warspite1

Sure, I have nothing with the Soviets until movement (land action of course). I am hoping that soon I will have some French (non-navy) to command too [:)]
Now Maitland, now's your time!

Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
User avatar
Orm
Posts: 33158
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 7:53 pm
Location: Sweden

RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY

Post by Orm »

I took the privilege to produce a French strategic bomber so you could take some revenge. It should arrive in a couple of turns.
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often students, for heaven's sake. - Terry Pratchett

A government is a body of people; usually, notably, ungoverned. - Quote from Firefly
User avatar
warspite1
Posts: 42130
Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:06 pm
Location: England

RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY

Post by warspite1 »

ORIGINAL: Orm

I took the privilege to produce a French strategic bomber so you could take some revenge. It should arrive in a couple of turns.
warspite1

No problem, but with the USA soon to be in the war, and the Soviets still only partially engaged, I think I should take control of the French otherwise its all a bit lop-sided.
Now Maitland, now's your time!

Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
User avatar
Orm
Posts: 33158
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 7:53 pm
Location: Sweden

RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY

Post by Orm »

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Orm

I took the privilege to produce a French strategic bomber so you could take some revenge. It should arrive in a couple of turns.
warspite1

No problem, but with the USA soon to be in the war, and the Soviets still only partially engaged, I think I should take control of the French otherwise its all a bit lop-sided.
I look forward to it. Not because it is lop-sided, although it has been so for far to long, but because it is more fun that way. [:)]
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often students, for heaven's sake. - Terry Pratchett

A government is a body of people; usually, notably, ungoverned. - Quote from Firefly
User avatar
Orm
Posts: 33158
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 7:53 pm
Location: Sweden

RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY

Post by Orm »

China rebase the Mohawk fighters to hex 87, 136.

RAF rebase the bombers in Aden to Bombay.

The British air transport resupply the Australian militia in Tangier. Then they return to Casablanca for some rest and recuperation. They earned it.

Image
Attachments
Handley_Pa.._HU67364.jpg
Handley_Pa.._HU67364.jpg (65.01 KiB) Viewed 204 times
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often students, for heaven's sake. - Terry Pratchett

A government is a body of people; usually, notably, ungoverned. - Quote from Firefly
User avatar
warspite1
Posts: 42130
Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:06 pm
Location: England

RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY

Post by warspite1 »

Judging by the variety of posters names that appear, our opponents appear to be attracting a lot of help - whether as Axis or Allies.

It appears we are the 'Millwall' of the MWIF world. [:D]
Now Maitland, now's your time!

Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
brian brian
Posts: 3191
Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:39 pm

RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY

Post by brian brian »

Is Rumania active? I forget. If it is not then the border there doesn't count for garrison ... and then the Germans will look to add quick garrison points if they can, by activating Rumania.

I forget if Yugoslavia is neutral too ... Might make Albania a tempting target for the Allies in 1942, though the Axis NAV defenses will still be strong. Lots of options for Allied strategy now.
brian brian
Posts: 3191
Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:39 pm

RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY

Post by brian brian »

And where did the German INF afloat in the West Med land?

I thought they would put an HQ ashore in Morocco first.

Maybe a rare CW Land impulse can get them a little worried about Libya, if the oceans are stabilized for a moment.
User avatar
warspite1
Posts: 42130
Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:06 pm
Location: England

RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY

Post by warspite1 »

ORIGINAL: brian brian

Is Rumania active? I forget. If it is not then the border there doesn't count for garrison ... and then the Germans will look to add quick garrison points if they can, by activating Rumania.

I forget if Yugoslavia is neutral too ... Might make Albania a tempting target for the Allies in 1942, though the Axis NAV defenses will still be strong. Lots of options for Allied strategy now.
warspite1

Romania is not active.

My understanding (though probably wrong) is:

Because Romania allowed the claim on Bessarabia the Germans can only align Romania if they declare war on the USSR. On that basis they cannot quickly add garrison points.

Part of the border area does count for garrison purposes because southern Bessarabia is 3 hexes from South Dobruja - and Bulgaria is active.

Yugoslavia is neutral
Now Maitland, now's your time!

Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
brian brian
Posts: 3191
Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:39 pm

RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY

Post by brian brian »

Ahh, thanks for the update.
User avatar
Orm
Posts: 33158
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 7:53 pm
Location: Sweden

RE: TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY

Post by Orm »

I haven't really counted the USSR / German border ratios for a while now. But I thought it could be interesting to put pressure on Germany since he left with so many units. And now I see that it is very close for USSR to actually break the pact.

This could get very interesting if it is this close once '42 begins. Currently it looks like Germany might have to DOW early or take the risk that Rumania might not join Axis. Although Finland could join to strengthen the German garrison. But USSR now has several militia that are a cheap way to get garrison points.

Forcing Germany to align Finland or even DOW USSR should make it easier to get US into the war as well.

Image
Attachments
479.jpg
479.jpg (109.03 KiB) Viewed 204 times
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often students, for heaven's sake. - Terry Pratchett

A government is a body of people; usually, notably, ungoverned. - Quote from Firefly
Post Reply

Return to “After Action Report”