Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[tjhkkr]

Would it be possible to make the U-2 carrier capable?
I am not sure all U-2s are so, but at least some are.

Even if the answer is no, thank you, as always! [;)]

[BathtubAdmiral]

Hi! Would it be possible to add Bombardier Global 5000 to Commercial Aircrafts? German Air Force Special Air Mission Wing uses it beside A340 for VIP transport. I hate to force Chancellor Merkel getting in a placeholder CRJ. [;)] Thanks!

[BathtubAdmiral]

Correction: The A400M has got FOUR Engines instead of two ...

Fixed....

[Zaslon]

Brazilian Mirage IIIBR ( #1249 #1250 ) are classified as Recon type. It looks strange. Please check it. Thanks.

Unstranged. Thanks!

[Hongjian]

Got an issue with the Type 054A Jiangkai-II Frigate's HQ-16A SAM.
Tested them against close-by air-targets, but they do not fire. Weapon allocation screen says that it is unable to connect with mandatory datalink.


A look into the db entry for the 054A frigates shows that, while they have SA-17/SA-N-12 Command Datalink [8 Channels], they do lack the SA-17/SA-N-12 Missile Datalink that is required for the HQ-16A (but not the SA-17 or the HQ-16B). Same missile datalink also seems to be lacking for the HQ-16A SAM launcher facility, but I havent tested it yet whether it works or not.

So, I'd suggest to either add the required SA-17/SA-N-12 Missile Datalink for all platforms using the HQ-16A - or, in case of the Type 054A Frigate, give it the HQ-16B, which already went into service some years ago.

(Also, official sources about the HQ-16B state that it is an active radar missile and not semi-active: http://english.chinamil.com.cn/view/201 ... 256402.htm)

[CV60]

Here are a some minor changes to DB3000 Weapon_1825 the SA-6a GAINFUL 9M336:

Database gives weight of 599 Kg, and a range of 1.5-13 nm, and an target altitude of 250-46,000 feet AGL, with a missile speed of 1290-1740 knts and a warhead of 59kg.

According to the sources below, these numbers should be (ussing the initial production Kub, IOC 1967):

Weight: 630 kg
Range: 3.2-11.9 nm
target alt: 328-22,965 ft
Warhead:57 kg

For the Kub-M3 (IOC 1976) the numbers would be:
Weight: 630 kg
Range: 2.15-13.50 nm
target alt: 65-26,247 ft
Warhead:57 kg

The sources below (except the OPFOR guide) also say the max speed is 600 m/s (1166 knts). OPFOR gives the missile speed at 700 m/s. However, this seems a little low to me, and I wonder if this 600 m/s represents the initial boost phase velocity.

[edited: Yep, the 600 m/s must be the boost phase. The missile eventually accelerates to approx. Mach 2.8, according to http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-2K12-Kvadrat.html ]


IHS. "2K12 Kub." Land Warfare Platforms: Artillery & Air Defence, 01 April 2016; "2K12 Kub/Kvadrat Self Propelled Air Defence System / SA-6 Gainful" Air Power Australia. Accessed January 21, 2017. http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-2K12-Kvadrat.html. (citing http://pvo.guns.ru/russia/index33.htm) ; US Army.; OPFOR WORLDWIDE EQUIPMENT GUIDE, Vol 2: Airspace and Air Defense Systems. TRADOC DCSINT Threat Support Directorate, December 2011, pg. 6-71 (available at http://cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/ref/ ... 11/id/2090)

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: Hongjian

Got an issue with the Type 054A Jiangkai-II Frigate's HQ-16A SAM.
Tested them against close-by air-targets, but they do not fire. Weapon allocation screen says that it is unable to connect with mandatory datalink.


A look into the db entry for the 054A frigates shows that, while they have SA-17/SA-N-12 Command Datalink [8 Channels], they do lack the SA-17/SA-N-12 Missile Datalink that is required for the HQ-16A (but not the SA-17 or the HQ-16B). Same missile datalink also seems to be lacking for the HQ-16A SAM launcher facility, but I havent tested it yet whether it works or not.

So, I'd suggest to either add the required SA-17/SA-N-12 Missile Datalink for all platforms using the HQ-16A - or, in case of the Type 054A Frigate, give it the HQ-16B, which already went into service some years ago.

(Also, official sources about the HQ-16B state that it is an active radar missile and not semi-active: http://english.chinamil.com.cn/view/201 ... 256402.htm)

This is a game issue that should be fixed next update.

Will look at hq16b as info evolves.

Mike

[JamitovHymem]

Iranian F-14 with R-27(likely also has the R73)
F-4 with C-802

[Fer_Cabo]

Could you please add:

-Murmansk-BN
-Borisoglebsk-2
-Rtut-BM

You can find info and links about all of them here: http://www.russiadefence.net/t2461p240- ... re-systems

[PN79]

ORIGINAL: CV60

Here are a some minor changes to DB3000 Weapon_1825 the SA-6a GAINFUL 9M336:

Database gives weight of 599 Kg, and a range of 1.5-13 nm, and an target altitude of 250-46,000 feet AGL, with a missile speed of 1290-1740 knts and a warhead of 59kg.

According to the sources below, these numbers should be (ussing the initial production Kub, IOC 1967):

Weight: 630 kg
Range: 3.2-11.9 nm
target alt: 328-22,965 ft
Warhead:57 kg

For the Kub-M3 (IOC 1976) the numbers would be:
Weight: 630 kg
Range: 2.15-13.50 nm
target alt: 65-26,247 ft
Warhead:57 kg

The sources below (except the OPFOR guide) also say the max speed is 600 m/s (1166 knts). OPFOR gives the missile speed at 700 m/s. However, this seems a little low to me, and I wonder if this 600 m/s represents the initial boost phase velocity.


IHS. "2K12 Kub." Land Warfare Platforms: Artillery & Air Defence, 01 April 2016; "2K12 Kub/Kvadrat Self Propelled Air Defence System / SA-6 Gainful" Air Power Australia. Accessed January 21, 2017. http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-2K12-Kvadrat.html. (citing http://pvo.guns.ru/russia/index33.htm) ; US Army.; OPFOR WORLDWIDE EQUIPMENT GUIDE, Vol 2: Airspace and Air Defense Systems. TRADOC DCSINT Threat Support Directorate, December 2011, pg. 6-71 (available at http://cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/ref/ ... 11/id/2090)

Hello,

Please if there is time to touch SA-6 Gainfull also rename missiles from 9M336 to correct: 3M9 for SA-6A and 3M9M3 for SA-6B. I don't know why 9M336 is used in connection with SA-6 but it is wrong as it is actually different missile (Verba).

Here you can see what is actually written on SA-6 missile:

http://www.brigadyr.net/pozemni_technik ... _3m9/2.htm

http://www.brigadyr.net/pozemni_technik ... ta_3m9.htm


Altitudes and names adjusted

[spec111]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audacious ... ft_carrier

Hello! Please add Audacious class into DB3000 too. It will be cool to use this CVs with Bucaneers in what-if Falklands War. =)

[Primarchx]

ORIGINAL: spec111

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audacious ... ft_carrier

Hello! Please add Audacious class into DB3000 too. It will be cool to use this CVs with Bucaneers in what-if Falklands War. =)

I second this! Plus RN Phantoms, Buccs, etc.

[spec111]

Where is carrier-capable Bucaneers? I want them too.[:D]

[Dimitris]

ORIGINAL: spec111
Where is carrier-capable Bucaneers? I want them too.[:D]

Quite certain they're already in there. NI #10 would be impossible without them.

[Primarchx]

ORIGINAL: Sunburn

ORIGINAL: spec111
Where is carrier-capable Bucaneers? I want them too.[:D]

Quite certain they're already in there. NI #10 would be impossible without them.

Isn't NI using the CWDB? We're asking for RN CTOL carrier assets for DB3K.

[Gunner98]

Here is an interesting hypothetical for the USN BBs - a bit of a monstrosity I would think but very cool.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-bu ... uper-19166


B

[Kitchens Sink]

Sorta reminds me of the BBG 72 Arsenal (Hypothetical Unit) currently in the database....no Harriers on that one though. The Arsenal is very fun to put into a scenario and blow up the general Theater of Operations.

[mikmykWS]

Pretty sure Paul has this unit in the CWDB.

[Gunner98]

There she is! DBID#669 BB 61 Iowa (Surface Combatant (Aviation Capable)

Any chance we could get her ported over to DB3K as it was considered for a late 80's conversion. Might be able to use her in an upcoming scenario.

Thanks

B

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: Gunner98

There she is! DBID#669 BB 61 Iowa (Surface Combatant (Aviation Capable)

Any chance we could get her ported over to DB3K as it was considered for a late 80's conversion. Might be able to use her in an upcoming scenario.

Thanks

B

Have to think about it. Its a big of stretch.

Thanks

Mike