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Open Discussion: New Events

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Is anyone open to discussing new events which could be incorporated into mods? I would be really interested in hearing what gets kicked around. Please don't post anything you consider even loosely "proprietary" as this is a brain storming thread.







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Example (1)

Decision:

First Lord of the Admiralty
Winston Churchill


The German Heavy Cruiser Graf Spee is raiding our shipping lanes in the South Atlantic. Soon we will begin to feel the economic effects of Graf Spree's successes. Our Naval advisers suggest sending a considerable search fleet to deal with the problem and provide naval protection in the South Atlantic from German Raiders.

Lord Churchill, Should we pursue the German raider, Graf Spee and maintain naval protection in the South Atlantic thereafter? It will cost 50 MPP for 5 turns.

Notes:
Between September and December 1939, the Graf Spee sank nine ships in the South Atlantic, before being historically confronted by three British cruisers at the Battle of the River Plate on December 13, 1939. It took considerable effort on the part of the Allies to hunt down the Graf Spee.

If you select (Yes) then the Graf Spee will ultimately be sunk in the South Atlantic.

If you select (No) then then we run the risk of reduced convoys in the short term and the eventual return of Graf Spee to port in Germany.

Effects:
Yes) Cost UK 50 MPP for 5 Turns
No) Commonwealth Convoys temporarily reduced in late 1939
No) Graf Spee (Heavy Cruiser) returns to port at strength 8 and +1 experience mid 1940
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Example (2)

Decision:

Führerhauptquartier
Kriegsmarine


Mein Führer, we currently have the Battleship "Tirpitz" on schedule to be launched in the spring of 1941. While much of the work of the hull is already complete there remains some skepticism in the Kriesgsmarine as to whether we would be better served to abandon construction and redirect our limited naval capacity to building more U-boats for the Atlantic campaign.

Abandoning construction of Tirpitz after the elaborate ceremonies surrounding her launch in April of 1939 is certain to reduce the morale of the Kriegsmarine as Tirpitz has the potential to be the heaviest battleships ever built by a European Navy. Regardless, this is a significant opportunity to amend our overall Naval Strategy.

Should we continue with the construction of Tirpitz (Yes) or should we focus our efforts on building more U-boats to support unrestricted submarine warfare? (No)

Notes:

Tirpitz was the second of two Bismarck-class battleships built for Germany's Kriegsmarine during World War II. The amount of material, manpower and production capacity that the Battleships consumed was the equivalent of building 80 U-boats. It is up to historical debate what effect the production of additional U-boats may have had on the early years of the Atlantic campaign.

If you select (Yes) to this decision a half strength Battleship (Tirpitz) will enter service February 25, 1941 at Stettin.

If you select (No) to this decision Germany will receive 2 half strength U-boat groups at Stettin on Decemebr 30, 1940 and Germany's National Morale will decrease 500 points as a result of scrapping the celebrated Battleship Tirpitz.

Effects:
Yes) Tirpitz (Battleship) is launched at strength 5 in Feb 1942
No) 2 German Submarines are launched at strength 5 in Dec 1940
No) German national morale decreases 500 points
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The "Ribbentrop" agreement between Russia and Germany included trade, each of its countries should be a bonus of points (ex Germany +4 and USSR +6) valid as long as the two countries respect the agreement .
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Here is one I like:

Decision:

France: Possible French Mechanized Corps

Based on recent developments in the defeat of Poland relating to the use of mechanized forces [specifically Tanks], the French government reconsiders their Armor Doctrine and authorizes the formation of a new Mechanized Force to better combat an expected German attack.

If you say YES, three French Mechanized Corps will be formed at half strength near Paris at a cost of 350 MPP's [at 50 per turn for 7 turns] and the French 7e Army will not arrive [as it is now used to form the new units].

If you say NO, the 7e Army will arrive near Calais.

Notes:

The French government obtained extensive intelligence pertaining to the German attack on Poland and Germany's use of Mechanized forces to swiftly defeat the Polish military, yet they choose to ignore this intelligence [and the advise of some of their military experts] and retain their WWI-like organization. This option gives the player the opportunity to possibly overcome some of France's shortcomings in May 1940, but at a cost of MPP's and time.

Decision triggers when Poland surrenders.

Effects:
Yes) -50 MPP's for 7 turns.
Yes) 3 French Mechanized Corps will be formed at 1/2 strength near Paris.
Yes) French 7e Army is removed
No) French 7e Army arrives near Calais.
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ORIGINAL: daon
The "Ribbentrop" agreement between Russia and Germany included trade, each of its countries should be a bonus of points (ex Germany +4 and USSR +6) valid as long as the two countries respect the agreement .
The Germans do get +25, but I don't recall the Russians getting anything, which I think is ok because the Germans sent them very little, to the point that Stalin considered rescinding the pact.
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ORIGINAL: daon

The "Ribbentrop" agreement between Russia and Germany included trade, each of its countries should be a bonus of points (ex Germany +4 and USSR +6) valid as long as the two countries respect the agreement .

This is a good one. In my previous version of Fall Weiss II (SC2) I had a decision event for the Molotov-Rippentrop Pact which had incorporated trade between Germany/USSR.

Germany received MPP (which is now the default in SC3) however USSR received military equipment from Germany periodically over the couse of the agreement (a very understength Artillery, Fighter, Anti-Tank).

However I have not updated the details of the pact in this version yet. I do however have a decision event on for the trade of the German Cruiser (Lutzow) to USSR (renamed Petropavlovsk in USSR) which was loosely part of the Pact.

I think the now default decision could be updated to provide some low MPP to USSR (~ 5 MPP as you suggested) and additionally some understrength military equipment which was also part of the original pact.

But as sPzAbt653 mentioned the USSR did not receive alot. Perhaps a follow up decision event as time passes would be for Germany to reduce the military equipment that is traded to USSR. In this instance I would probaly give the decision to Germany to keep the military aircraft in Germany (Germany originally promised 30 of it's most modern aircraft). The effect would be a new fighter unit it Germany and increased USSR mobilization in response.
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ORIGINAL: sPzAbt653

Here is one I like:

Decision:

France: Possible French Mechanized Corps

Based on recent developments in the defeat of Poland relating to the use of mechanized forces [specifically Tanks], the French government reconsiders their Armor Doctrine and authorizes the formation of a new Mechanized Force to better combat an expected German attack.

If you say YES, three French Mechanized Corps will be formed at half strength near Paris at a cost of 350 MPP's [at 50 per turn for 7 turns] and the French 7e Army will not arrive [as it is now used to form the new units].

If you say NO, the 7e Army will arrive near Calais.

Notes:

The French government obtained extensive intelligence pertaining to the German attack on Poland and Germany's use of Mechanized forces to swiftly defeat the Polish military, yet they choose to ignore this intelligence [and the advise of some of their military experts] and retain their WWI-like organization. This option gives the player the opportunity to possibly overcome some of France's shortcomings in May 1940, but at a cost of MPP's and time.

Decision triggers when Poland surrenders.

Effects:
Yes) -50 MPP's for 7 turns.
Yes) 3 French Mechanized Corps will be formed at 1/2 strength near Paris.
Yes) French 7e Army is removed
No) French 7e Army arrives near Calais.

Did France historically have the capability of forming these Mechanized Corps in 1939/1940?
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Did France historically have the capability of forming these Mechanized Corps in 1939/1940?
I would say yes, because they had several Mech formations already but they were attached in support of corps that were infantry minded. They also had most of their nice tanks organized into battalion sized support units for the infantry and scattered all over [many of them distributed behind the Maginot]. So that is why the 7e Army is removed if this DE is taken [as it is used as the base for the three corps].
This change would also require the removal of Gamelin as the top general, but this isn't much of stretch at all as Gamelin was on his way to being replaced but the German attack kept him in charge [for a short time].
I've played with this option and at this scale it really makes no difference to the outcome, but it is a little fun to have some French Mech formations.
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give the decision to Germany to keep the military aircraft in Germany
I like the idea of giving a Decision for Germany to keep to the agreement, saying YES gives the USSR a few MPP's and moves them a few percentage points to the Axis, while subtracting a few MPP's from Germany. I wouldn't give the USSR extra units because 30 planes doesn't really represent a Soviet Air Unit at this scale.
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giving a Decision for Germany to keep to the agreement, saying YES gives the USSR a few MPP's , while subtracting a few MPP's from Germany.
if no , no Ribbentrop treaty : URSS "allied + 10%" and more speed rearment
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Here is an existing example of some Non-Aggression Pact Trade I have already modeled:

German Decision

One of the secret protocols of the recently signed Non-Aggression Pact with USSR was the delivery of the Light Cruiser, Lützow which is currently under construction.

Though it would certainly upset Stalin, we could keep Lützow in Germany and complete it's construction at a cost of 20 MPP for 3 turns with an expected launch date of February 1941.

Would you like to keep Lützow in Germany and complete its construction (YES) or keep our Promise to Stalin according to the Non-Aggression Pact and deliver Lützow to USSR (No)?

Notes

In October 1939, the Soviet Union approached Germany with a request to purchase the then unfinished Admiral Hipper-class cruiser Lützow. As the agreement was never finalized until February 1940, Germany could have denied the request.

If you select (Yes) to this decision USSR will move 6-8% closer to the Allies and Germany will launch the Light Cruiser Lutzow in February 1941.

If you select (No) the ship Light Cruiser be transferred to USSR which will have to refit it to completion at a slightly higher cost.

Effects
Yes) Cost Germany 20 MPP for 3 Turns
Yes) Germany Receives Light Cruiser (Lutzow) Feb 1941
Yes) USSR moves 6-8% closer to the Axis
No) Ownership of Lutzow is transferred to USSR

USSR Decision

The German Light Cruiser Lutzow, now renamed Petropavlovsk, which was acquired as part of the 1939 Non-Aggression Pact between Germany and USSR has arrived at Leningrad this spring and will require additional refitting before she is sea ready.

The final construction costs are expected to amount to 25 MPP for 3 turns with a rushed launch date of September 1940.

Should we authorize the expenditure to complete the construction of the Light Cruiser Petropavlovsk (Yes) or should we abandon construction? (No).

Notes

If you select (Yes) to this decision the Light Cruiser Petropavlovsk will deploy at strength 8 at Leningrad in September 1940.

If you select (No) though construction will be cancelled, take solace that the Light Cruiser has been transferred away from the German Navy.

Effects
Yes) Cost USSR 25 MPP for 3 turns
Yes) USSR Receives Light Crusier (Petropavlovsk) Sep 1940
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