Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[butch4343]

Firstly please take this in the polite and respectful tone it was written in, I think the development team does sterling work and understand they have lives out with CMNAO.


I was wondering in the past its been muted that there would be an update in the new year , I was wondering if theres any further update on the progress of this?
Keep up the good work.

Cheers

Butch

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: butch4343

Firstly please take this in the polite and respectful tone it was written in, I think the development team does sterling work and understand they have lives out with CMNAO.


I was wondering in the past its been muted that there would be an update in the new year , I was wondering if theres any further update on the progress of this?
Keep up the good work.

Cheers

Butch

You normally get a db update with every update. We did that a bunch of times in 2016 and I think even the latest may have had one. We've got another one coming soon and it should have one.

Thanks

Mike

[CV60]

Hello,

Please if there is time to touch SA-6 Gainfull also rename missiles from 9M336 to correct: 3M9 for SA-6A and 3M9M3 for SA-6B. I don't know why 9M336 is used in connection with SA-6 but it is wrong as it is actually different missile (Verba).

Here you can see what is actually written on SA-6 missile:

http://www.brigadyr.net/pozemni_technik ... _3m9/2.htm

http://www.brigadyr.net/pozemni_technik ... ta_3m9.htm

You are correct, the SA-6a is also known as the SA-6a, the GAINFUL mod 0 or the Kub, or the 3M9. The SA-6b is also known as the GAINFUL mod 1, the 3M9M1, 3M9M2, 3M9M3 or alternative, the Kub-M1, Kub-M2, or Kub-M3 (each is a slightly different missile). Multiple names (and data sources) for weapons systems is confusing, but that is the reality of any analysis of military hardware. The CMANO datbase team does a really good job of trying to deconflict the various information sources and present an accurate (and fairly complete) database for over ten thousand systems.

[CV60]

The SA-6b GAINFUL SAM BN (DB3000 Facility_243, 133) is listed as having a FIRE DOME 9S35 radar with a max range of 40 nm. According to http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Engageme ... ocId926428, the FIRE DOME 9S36, a slightly different varient of the FIRE DOME has a max detection range vs. a Mig-21 RCS sized target of 100 km/54nm and an acquisition range of 95 km/51 nm. I'll see if I can get numbers for the 9S35 varient, but I suspect they aren't too different from the 9S36

[butch4343]

ORIGINAL: mikmyk

ORIGINAL: butch4343

Firstly please take this in the polite and respectful tone it was written in, I think the development team does sterling work and understand they have lives out with CMNAO.


I was wondering in the past its been muted that there would be an update in the new year , I was wondering if theres any further update on the progress of this?
Keep up the good work.

Cheers

Butch

You normally get a db update with every update. We did that a bunch of times in 2016 and I think even the latest may have had one. We've got another one coming soon and it should have one.

Thanks

Mike

Mike,


Thanks for your response, Im much obliged [:)]

[SASR]

EASR Updates

From: http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/easr/

EASR is a 9 RMA configuration – which is equivalent to the sensitivity of the current SPY-1D(V) radar on today’s destroyers, and at only 20% of the size of the legacy SPS-48. These are considerable enhancements over the radars in service on current (and future) EASR-designated ship classes.

Two variants of EASR will be provided (each face an identical 9-RMA array):

Variant 1 – a single face, rotating radar

Upgraded capability replacing AN/SPS-48 and -49 air search radars
Primary sensor for ship self-defense and situational awareness
Designated radar for LHA-8 and LX(R)

Variant 2 – three face, fixed array radar

Upgraded capability replacing AN/SPY-4 Volume Search Radar
Primary sensor for ship self-defense, situational awareness and air traffic control
Designated radar for CVN 78 Ford-class carriers, starting with CVN 79

[Rangoon]

Building (Large) -- Generic (Generic)

pops up error messages when clicking on it.

Hope that helps.

[spec111]

http://www.ausairpower.net/clamshell.html

Where is Clamshell radar station for S-300/SA-10 SAM? It is critical thing. [&o]

[edsw]

ORIGINAL: spec111

http://www.ausairpower.net/clamshell.html

Where is Clamshell radar station for S-300/SA-10 SAM? It is critical thing. [&o]

Where is Clamshell radar station for S-300/SA-10 SAM? It is critical thing.

Насколько я понял,там нужно отдельно ставить обзорную РЛС(для с-300/400 и других он есть в разделе радары).

[mikmykWS]

We sometimes add the radar separately. Look at the radars.

Mike

[JamitovHymem]

Belarus only exists in the facility database
It does not have any aircraft in the database
Is this a bug?

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: JamitovHymem

Belarus only exists in the facility database
It does not have any aircraft in the database
Is this a bug?

No just haven't added many platforms yet.

Mike

[Kitchens Sink]

This missile looks to be ship/sub capable according to the Launch Altitude Info, but I can't find a mount to use it with, or method to load a Weapons Record to an existing mount for Chinese Ships.

I realize the actual missile may not quite yet be in full service, but I am developing a scenario set in the future and thought I would be able to up-gun a large Chinese warships to carry some of them since the missile does exist in the database.

I am currently using the P-800 Onyx as a stand-in for up-gunning because it's characteristics are similar.

Am I missing something on how to add this missile?

Thanks!

[Dysta]

My computer was broken so I haven't check the database for a while. Is Type-909/A weapon experiment ship in DB3000? It was famoused during the YJ-12 & HQ-XX (super long range SAM/ABSM) tests reported by media:

EDIT: Checked after my PC is repaired, this ship isn't in DB.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_90 ... rials_ship

[butch4343]

Hi folks,
I wonder if it would be possible request a load out to be added to the DB at next update.
I am working on a scenario for GW1, I notice the RAF Jaguars lack a tactical reconnaissance capability in CMNAO, where this was a major role of UK based Jaguars. The recce pod was a custom built BAE (then BAC) pod that featured 1 oblique camera, a fan of 4 horizon to horizon cameras in the mid section and an IR linescan unit in the rear, to provide a night photography capability. It was mounted on the centre line pylon of the Jaguar, the typical load out being
1x BAE reconnaissance pod centre line
2x 1200litre Drop Tanks Left/Right Inboard
1xAQL-101 DECM Pod and Phimat Dispenser Left/Right Outboard
The operational range for the Jaguar in this configuration would be 400nm on a hi-lo-hi profile, I would suggest that loadout ID#3155 would be a good fit for aircraft performance, with the recce pod swapped for CBU. I have looked around the DB for a very comparable recce pod, the one that springs to mind is the #989 - GAF Recce Pod [EO + IRLS] -- 1999, 200-2000ft, both are primarily low level pods , both have a day/night capability.
Now to throw some meet on the bones of my request, I have included below links that confirm the pod was operational from the late 1970s through to until the DJRP replaced the BAE Pod in the late 1990s

http://www.airvectors.net/avjag.html
http://www.spyflight.co.uk/jag%20pod.htm

Cheers
Butch

Added Jaguar EMI pods and follow on Vinton Pods to British Jags

[spec111]

Hello! Where is soviet\russian secret subs like Yankee Stretch, Delta III Strech, Delta IV Strech and KS-139 Belgorod (Oscar II Special)?

And they special payload - deep diving submarines like:

AC-23, the original Project 1851 Nelma (X-RAY) submarine. 44m long, can dive to about 1,000m (3,000ft)
AC-21, an improved Project 18511 Halibut (PALTUS) class boat. About 55m long and can probably dive to around 1,000m (3,000ft) per the X-RAY
AC-35, the second Project 18511 PALTUS. Slight differences to the first.
AC-31, Project 10831 LOSHARIK. Significantly larger at 70m and probably deeper diving.

http://www.hisutton.com/Spy%20Subs%20-P ... gorod.html

And yes, i want India-class and Sarov-class too. =)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India-class_submarine
http://www.hisutton.com/SAROV-Class_Submarine.html

US counterparts will be cool too.

http://www.hisutton.com/USS_Parche.html
http://www.hisutton.com/Secret%20Sub%20 ... libut.html

[orca]

Is there a way to add a sensor to a ship that will deploy at a height to simulate TALONS?

TALONS System Mimics a Mast as Tall as a Skyscraper
http://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2015-09-24

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: orca

Is there a way to add a sensor to a ship that will deploy at a height to simulate TALONS?

TALONS System Mimics a Mast as Tall as a Skyscraper
http://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2015-09-24

Yeah we've been looking at that. Need to figure out a way to give it an elevation.

Mike

[spec111]

Hello! There is HUGE MAJOR error of S-300P-series organization in Command!

Lets look at S-300PS. Whole AD system is called BRIGADE! (It is given to Front\Military Region Command in peace time.)

Brigade has HQ Vehicle 5N83S, 36D6 Tin Shield B Radar and 4 (for PS and PMU, and up to 6 for PMU-1) AD BNs (which is called "Antiaircraft Missile Complex".)

Every BN has:
HQ Vehicle 5N63S, 5N63S Flap Lid B and 5N66 Clam Shell B radars.
And up to four "Launch Complexes" (which is batteries). Every battery consists one "master" (with firecontrol box) 5P85S TEL and two "slave" (without firecontrol box) 5P85D TELs. So every "master" TEL can support only two "slave" TELs.

So at maximum in battalion we have 3x4=12 TELs.

12! Not four as we have on chinese SA-20a "Bn" (which is supplied with full pack of BNs radars). And not four as we have with SA-20b "Bn" (i.e. errorish battery which is supplied with _BRIGADE_ level Cheese Board long-range radar!).

In fact there is same problem with russian S-300V. With 9 TELs+LLVs it is not BN, it is only regular battery!

Thx.

[Kitchens Sink]

ORIGINAL: Kitchens Sink

This missile looks to be ship/sub capable according to the Launch Altitude Info, but I can't find a mount to use it with, or method to load a Weapons Record to an existing mount for Chinese Ships.

I realize the actual missile may not quite yet be in full service, but I am developing a scenario set in the future and thought I would be able to up-gun a large Chinese warships to carry some of them since the missile does exist in the database.

I am currently using the P-800 Onyx as a stand-in for up-gunning because it's characteristics are similar.

Am I missing something on how to add this missile?

Thanks!

I thought I would bump this to see if the Dev's could give me some help. The missile in question is DB ID #2862 YJ-12 SSM

Thanks!