NO. The IJN CV air groups have a resize date of 12/41. This means that they never have to follow the historical resize path.
The USN CV air groups have no resize date which means they have to follow the historical resize path.
If you set the USN CV air groups to have a resize date of 12/41 they can then act like the IJN ones.
In stock scenarios the IJN CV air groups have no resize date.
TM, RA, and BTS Re-Write
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RE: RA 7.9
here is akagi-1 in the BTS 2.5 scenario
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RE: RA 7.9
If there is no resize-1 date input then this is the resize paths taken
When the 'resize to fit' option is enabled, the groups try to resize to fit the space on the CVx as per the old rules of version 1806 of stock.
These rules are based on Allied/Japanese, type of CVx, number of groups onboard, etc.
Only carrier capable F. FB, NF, DB and TB groups can resize according to the first applicable condition below.
a) if only one group on the CVx, then new size is 9/10 of CV capacity.
b) if Japanese and ship type is CV or CVB and date is less than 7 months since Dec 1941, new size is 1/3 of CV capacity.
c) if Japanese and ship type is CV or CVB, new size depends on group type:
(i) type is F, new size is 0.375 times CV capacity.
(ii) type is DB, new size is 0.375 times CV capacity.
(iii) type is TB, new size is 0.25 times CV capacity.
(iv) any other type, new size is 0.13 times CV capacity.
d) if Japanese and ship type is CVL, new size depends on group type:
(i) type is F, new size is 0.6 times CV capacity.
(ii) any other type, new size is 0.4 times CV capacity.
e) if British, new size depends on group type:
(i) type is F, new size is (0.6 times CV capacity) divided by number of fighter groups on board.
(ii) if more than one fighter group present and any other type, new size is (0.4 times CV capacity) divided by number of non-fighter groups on board.
f) if Allied and ship type is CV or CVB and capacity >99, new size depends on group type:
(i) type is TB, new size is 0.132 times CV capacity.
(ii) any other type, new size is 0.28 times CV capacity.
g) if Allied and ship type is CV or CVB and year<44, new size depends on group type:
(i) type is F and date is less than 7 months since Dec 1941, new size is 0.3 times CV capacity.
(ii) type is F, new size is 0.4 times CV capacity.
(iii) type is DB and year<43, new size is 0.2 times CV capacity.
(iv) type is DB and year=43 and one DB group present, new size is 0.4 times CV capacity.
(v) type is TB and year=42, new size is 0.17 times CV capacity.
(vi) any other type, new size is 0.2 times CV capacity.
h) if Allied and ship type is CV or CVB and year>43, new size depends on group type:
(i) type is F and date is less than 31 months since Dec 1941, new size is 0.45 times CV capacity.
(ii) type is F and date is less than 37 months since Dec 1941, new size is 0.47 times CV capacity.
(iii) type is F, new size is 0.4 times CV capacity.
(iv) type is DB and date is more than 36 months since Dec 1941 and more than 3 groups present, new size is 0.17 times CV capacity.
(v) type is DB and date is more than 36 months since Dec 1941 and more than 3 groups present, new size is 0.17 times CV capacity.
(vi) type is DB and date is more than 30 months since Dec 1941 and less than 4 groups present and one DB group present, new size is 0.36 times CV capacity.
(vii) type is DB and date is less than 31 months since Dec 1941 and less than 4 groups present and one DB group present, new size is 0.38 times CV capacity.
(viii) type is TB and year=45 and more than 3 groups present, new size is 0.17 times CV capacity.
(ix) any other type, new size is 0.2 times CV capacity.
i) if Allied and ship type is CVE and date is greater than 28 months since Dec 1941, new size depends on group type:
(i) type is F , new size is 0.71 times CV capacity.
(ii) any other type, new size is 0.3 times CV capacity.
j) if Allied and ship type is CVE or CVL , new size depends on group type:
(i) type is F , new size is 0.7 times CV capacity.
(ii) any other type, new size is 0.3 times CV capacity.
k) anything else, new size is CV capacity / number of groups
If there is a date in the resize-1 field, then after that date the units are able to resize as the player wants.
When the 'resize to fit' option is enabled, the groups try to resize to fit the space on the CVx as per the old rules of version 1806 of stock.
These rules are based on Allied/Japanese, type of CVx, number of groups onboard, etc.
Only carrier capable F. FB, NF, DB and TB groups can resize according to the first applicable condition below.
a) if only one group on the CVx, then new size is 9/10 of CV capacity.
b) if Japanese and ship type is CV or CVB and date is less than 7 months since Dec 1941, new size is 1/3 of CV capacity.
c) if Japanese and ship type is CV or CVB, new size depends on group type:
(i) type is F, new size is 0.375 times CV capacity.
(ii) type is DB, new size is 0.375 times CV capacity.
(iii) type is TB, new size is 0.25 times CV capacity.
(iv) any other type, new size is 0.13 times CV capacity.
d) if Japanese and ship type is CVL, new size depends on group type:
(i) type is F, new size is 0.6 times CV capacity.
(ii) any other type, new size is 0.4 times CV capacity.
e) if British, new size depends on group type:
(i) type is F, new size is (0.6 times CV capacity) divided by number of fighter groups on board.
(ii) if more than one fighter group present and any other type, new size is (0.4 times CV capacity) divided by number of non-fighter groups on board.
f) if Allied and ship type is CV or CVB and capacity >99, new size depends on group type:
(i) type is TB, new size is 0.132 times CV capacity.
(ii) any other type, new size is 0.28 times CV capacity.
g) if Allied and ship type is CV or CVB and year<44, new size depends on group type:
(i) type is F and date is less than 7 months since Dec 1941, new size is 0.3 times CV capacity.
(ii) type is F, new size is 0.4 times CV capacity.
(iii) type is DB and year<43, new size is 0.2 times CV capacity.
(iv) type is DB and year=43 and one DB group present, new size is 0.4 times CV capacity.
(v) type is TB and year=42, new size is 0.17 times CV capacity.
(vi) any other type, new size is 0.2 times CV capacity.
h) if Allied and ship type is CV or CVB and year>43, new size depends on group type:
(i) type is F and date is less than 31 months since Dec 1941, new size is 0.45 times CV capacity.
(ii) type is F and date is less than 37 months since Dec 1941, new size is 0.47 times CV capacity.
(iii) type is F, new size is 0.4 times CV capacity.
(iv) type is DB and date is more than 36 months since Dec 1941 and more than 3 groups present, new size is 0.17 times CV capacity.
(v) type is DB and date is more than 36 months since Dec 1941 and more than 3 groups present, new size is 0.17 times CV capacity.
(vi) type is DB and date is more than 30 months since Dec 1941 and less than 4 groups present and one DB group present, new size is 0.36 times CV capacity.
(vii) type is DB and date is less than 31 months since Dec 1941 and less than 4 groups present and one DB group present, new size is 0.38 times CV capacity.
(viii) type is TB and year=45 and more than 3 groups present, new size is 0.17 times CV capacity.
(ix) any other type, new size is 0.2 times CV capacity.
i) if Allied and ship type is CVE and date is greater than 28 months since Dec 1941, new size depends on group type:
(i) type is F , new size is 0.71 times CV capacity.
(ii) any other type, new size is 0.3 times CV capacity.
j) if Allied and ship type is CVE or CVL , new size depends on group type:
(i) type is F , new size is 0.7 times CV capacity.
(ii) any other type, new size is 0.3 times CV capacity.
k) anything else, new size is CV capacity / number of groups
If there is a date in the resize-1 field, then after that date the units are able to resize as the player wants.
RE: RA 7.9
And just so you know, RA 8.1 is the same way.
RE: RA 7.9
I have been thinking on this Post some and I think I changed the Japanese resize date to keep the Japanese from AUTO-resizing. This is a pet peeve of mine. HATE being forced to auto-resize in June 1942 or something like that. Lordy. Doing ALL the Allied Squadrons might take forever. Is there an easier way? Hmmm...
Ideas?
Ideas?
Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
RE: RA 7.9
Do you know how to use witploadAE? It would be the fasted way.
RE: RA 7.9
OK. Going to work on the Mod.
I've decided to allow the resize option for all active flightdecks available on Dec 7th. That should work to help with this issue.
Will update as I make my way through various items in the Mod.
I've decided to allow the resize option for all active flightdecks available on Dec 7th. That should work to help with this issue.
Will update as I make my way through various items in the Mod.
Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
RE: RA 7.9
All starting American carriers can now resize from Day One.
Fixed TT issue with Japanese CVs. All carry two basic loads for their TB now.
Fixed TT issue with Japanese CVs. All carry two basic loads for their TB now.
Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
RE: RA 7.9
From the Sub Thread:
No. You inferred. ALL pre-war US CV/CVL ships can: Lex, Sara, King's Mountain, Ely, Langley, Yorktown, Enterprise, Hornet, and Wasp. Make sense? The others come in and do their thing as per normal.
ORIGINAL: BillBrown
So the USN get three that can resize and the IJN gets all of theirs?
No. You inferred. ALL pre-war US CV/CVL ships can: Lex, Sara, King's Mountain, Ely, Langley, Yorktown, Enterprise, Hornet, and Wasp. Make sense? The others come in and do their thing as per normal.
Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
RE: RA 7.9
Starting the three new V-Program Subs at PH on Dec 7th along with Narwhal and Argonaut.
Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
Update
Fixed.ORIGINAL: aga2008
Playing RA 7.9 and it's April 1943.
I just got the 752 KuS-1 (27 Zeroes) but it needs to be withdrawn immediately (since Dec 1942 it says).
Keeping it costs me 27 PP per day ...
Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
RE: RA 7.9
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
From the Sub Thread:
ORIGINAL: BillBrown
So the USN get three that can resize and the IJN gets all of theirs?
No. You inferred. ALL pre-war US CV/CVL ships can: Lex, Sara, King's Mountain, Ely, Langley, Yorktown, Enterprise, Hornet, and Wasp. Make sense? The others come in and do their thing as per normal.
No, but, your mod, your call.
RE: RA 7.9
We're good. I figure this is a fair change allowing for all Japanese and American (pre-war) CVs the option.
Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
RE: RA 7.9
I just decided to not play this mod after all.
RE: RA 7.9
Thanks for helping get this update finished.
Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
Update
Just spent the last 45 minutes going through all the ship art. Found some stuff missing as well as things in the wrong area. Got that all fixed and will be uploading a new set of CORRECT art files within the next few days.
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RE: Update
John,
Don't know if you've already addressed this in your fixes, but the devices for the three Hvy AA units in Malaya are a bit wonky. The devices don't match the ToE slots which can lead to some weird replacements. I'm running the current release version of BtS and the following changes in the scenario editor seemed to fix the issue:
Unit# 6626 - 2nd HK&S Heavy
Wpn1 - 1063 Num - 18
Wpn2 - 1049 Num - 01
Wpn3 - 253 Num - 16
Wpn4 - 00 Num - 00 (empty slot for AEC Matador in the ToE)
Wpn5 - 1062 Num - 04
Wpn6 - 252 Num - 02
Unit# 6629 - 1st Indian Heavy
Wpn1 - 1062 Num - 16
Wpn2 - 1049 Num - 01
Wpn3 - 253 Num - 16
Wpn4 - 00 Num - 00
Wpn5 - 1061 Num - 16
Wpn6 - 252 Num - 02
Unit# 6640 - 1st HK&S Heavy
Wpn1 - 1063 Num - 16
Wpn2 - 1049 Num - 02
Wpn3 - 253 Num - 22
Wpn4 - 00 Num - 00
Wpn5 - 1062 Num - 02
Wpn6 - 1060 Num - 08
Looking forward to the new update. Thanks for all your hard work!
Mike
Don't know if you've already addressed this in your fixes, but the devices for the three Hvy AA units in Malaya are a bit wonky. The devices don't match the ToE slots which can lead to some weird replacements. I'm running the current release version of BtS and the following changes in the scenario editor seemed to fix the issue:
Unit# 6626 - 2nd HK&S Heavy
Wpn1 - 1063 Num - 18
Wpn2 - 1049 Num - 01
Wpn3 - 253 Num - 16
Wpn4 - 00 Num - 00 (empty slot for AEC Matador in the ToE)
Wpn5 - 1062 Num - 04
Wpn6 - 252 Num - 02
Unit# 6629 - 1st Indian Heavy
Wpn1 - 1062 Num - 16
Wpn2 - 1049 Num - 01
Wpn3 - 253 Num - 16
Wpn4 - 00 Num - 00
Wpn5 - 1061 Num - 16
Wpn6 - 252 Num - 02
Unit# 6640 - 1st HK&S Heavy
Wpn1 - 1063 Num - 16
Wpn2 - 1049 Num - 02
Wpn3 - 253 Num - 22
Wpn4 - 00 Num - 00
Wpn5 - 1062 Num - 02
Wpn6 - 1060 Num - 08
Looking forward to the new update. Thanks for all your hard work!
Mike
RE: Update
I'll fix that this morning. Was unaware of issues so thanks.
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