Sub Wars: Tough days for the Allies. John's good TFs keep running right over my subs in the DEI, with no satisfying opportunities to shoot. But enemy ASW chews up my subs. I lost one today with two more heavily damaged.
I understood this to be a fairly well-known aspect of the game. I think reading Bullwinkle's comments were the most instructive, as he really loves this aspect of the game and works it hard.
It almost seems hopeless to employ the Allied subs against any enemy TF that includes air or sea ASW. I've considered pulling nearly everything out, grouping them at Manila, and then flooding a zone if and when KB should approach. But I'll try for a few more turns...trying, trying, trying to vector subs into KB's paths.
It is, by far, the most unbalanced-against-history aspect of the game. Very frustrating if you know anything about the real submarine war.
What makes you say this? I believe it is open for the 500 supply...& CR picture above confirms.[:)]
It depends on who controls the road hex sides outside Lashio, I think.
Edit - I missed that screenshot. I see it now. Yes, it should be open.
Lashio is not critical...if the road/rail is open from Rangoon to Myitkyina to Tsuyung (sic[:D])I believe.
...which passes through that Lashio road. It's Rangoon to Tsuyung OR Ledo to Tsuyung (this one is impossible, listed in the manual, so am thinking it either got changed or this condition is simply ignored as it's not possible). Also worth noting that John has a unit blocking the trail outside Taung Gyi.
However, there is a trail path that can be traced from Rangoon through Katha and Myitkyina then back south to Lashio and east to Tsuyung, so it should be open.
Also, the manual says it must be free of Japanese units, so it doesn't follow normal supply rules (which is hex side control, not necessarily free of units).
Burma Road: Loki, I'd ordinarily defer to you for just about anything, most certainly issues involving rules; but in this case, I know that the presence of enemy units did not disrupt the flow of supply on the Burma Road. The Allies controlled the necessary hexsides, and that was sufficient.
And then look what happened to those enemy units today!
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"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
Maybe 6 or so years ago, in our 2x2 game we were under the impression that enemy units in a hex stopped supply flow but the 4 of us working together were able to determine (and I think Michael later confirmed) that only the hex sides matter. Enemy presence does not matter except insofar as it influences hex side ownership.
I figure that the Burma Road code uses the same base logic routines instead of being totally custom, and so must work the same way.
...which passes through that Lashio road. It's Rangoon to Tsuyung OR Ledo to Tsuyung (this one is impossible, listed in the manual, so am thinking it either got changed or this condition is simply ignored as it's not possible).
Alfred posted that the manual is wrong...
Plus the path from Myit come east of Lashio...bypassing it.
Intelligence Screen: The Allies pull into the lead on the first day of August....and one year ago, remnants of an Allied army were still making their stand in Sumatra. In a year (really, more like 14 months), the Allies have moved from Sumatra to the Aleutians to the Marshalls to the DEI to the Gulf of Caprentaria to Luzon to Borneo and to China.
During that interval, the carriers have never returned to Pearl (after departing nearly a year ago) and a lot of merchant ships have pushed forward. So logistics and related things must soon take some priority until balance is restored.
In the meantime, promising developments today in China and Formosa.
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"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
Bombardment Missions: Two successful bombardment missions against important enemy bases today; successful, but illustrative of the uncertainties inherent in bombardment missions.
The first mission consists of three DDs targeting Takao from Aparri, a distance of eight hexes. This TF goes in, does quite a bit of damage for small guys, and makes it all the way back to Aparri. Just like it was drawn up on the blackboard.
DD Jupiter firing at Takao
DD Van Galen firing at Takao
DD Gridley firing at Takao
The second mission only has four hexes to travel but waits until the afternoon phase to make it to the target: Amoy. It does good work and ends up just a hex from Death Star, as expected. The bombardment is pretty strong.
Naval bombardment of Amoy at 83,61
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
H8K2 Emily: 47 damaged
H8K2 Emily: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-84a Frank: 90 damaged
Ki-84a Frank: 7 destroyed on ground
A7M2 Sam: 79 damaged
A7M2 Sam: 4 destroyed on ground
B5N2 Kate: 3 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied Ships
BB Idaho
BB Maryland
CA Salt Lake City
CA Pensacola
CL St. Louis
DD Gatling
DD Franks
DD Dashiell
DD Daly
DD Chauncey
DD Bryant
DD Bell
DD Charles Ausburne
DMS Forrest
Japanese ground losses:
822 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 49 destroyed, 81 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 15 (3 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Vehicles lost 63 (18 destroyed, 45 disabled)
Airbase hits 62
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 87
Port hits 39
Port supply hits 3
BB Idaho firing at Amoy
BB Maryland firing at Amoy
CA Salt Lake City firing at Amoy
CA Pensacola firing at Amoy
CL St. Louis firing at Amoy
DD Gatling firing at Amoy
DD Franks firing at Amoy
DD Dashiell firing at Amoy
DD Daly firing at Amoy
DD Chauncey firing at Amoy
DD Bryant firing at Amoy
DD Bell firing at 9th Ind.Mixed Brigade
DD Charles Ausburne firing at Amoy
DMS Forrest firing at Amoy
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
SEAC: The Allies pushing forward. There will come a day when advancing units encounter stiff (or stiffer) opposition. Then air power will become more important.
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"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
" - BBfanboy